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and nooooo it's not Mr. Welk either. Got a new upload page since I've been here........I like my LOW c-index myself. ROFL Got the new puter already and it's grand......the new LCD widescreen really shows me how crappy my art's been. :) I'll see if I can change that. I'll be around and the new system is very fast but a little tricky to figure out.....I'm gettin' it though. Thanks for the looks. J