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.AUBREY
11/10/06 8:41 PM GMT
Hello moderators - keep awake. I like the fact that new images can be good or bad, and on nearly any topic. Let the voting system sort them out. The fact that it's "nearly any" is important to the integrity of this site. I just saw the first (yes first of thousands) image that I think suggests the poster is quite disturbed. Recent events in North America have shown that some very sick people use the net and various sites to display their illness - and it has not reflected well on the sites when things go wrong and then the posts are revealed for all to see. Vigilance folks!
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.speedy_10
11/10/06 8:46 PM GMT
Maybe providing a link to this image would help the mods.
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.AUBREY
11/10/06 8:48 PM GMT
Considering what I just said, no. We cannot do anything about the individual now, but the integrity of Caedes needs vigilance.
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.akashastrega
11/10/06 8:56 PM GMT
Well if you cannot provide a link, then perhaps it would be better served to PM Caedes directly with the link. Some things here, you may differ with others on what is considered art...and since we are not sure of what you mean, we cannot say we agree or disagree with you on this. I'm sure if something goes through that would be very questionable, something would be done...however if it IS artistic, and isn't harming anyone specifically, whether you or I or the next person finds it disturbing...art shouldn't be censored. If it is kiddie porn, or an image of someone being murdered...no that isn't art...but if it is just disturbing and provacative...well, that's what art is. It isn't always pretty flowers and frilly lace lined images.
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To humor the party pooper who complained, I will censor my quote======= THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:: Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine, into your brain, and THAT is where poopy-ish ideas come from!!
.AUBREY
11/10/06 9:00 PM GMT
Well, this rapidly went where I was afraid it would go. Just keep an eye open, remember integrity of the site. That's all. Lots or room for all kinds of Art, and Not Art too.
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.akashastrega
11/10/06 9:14 PM GMT
You are rather confusing...
You tell of this "infraction" (for lack of a better word), yet provide no links. You suggest we remain vigilent, and keep the integrity of Caedes, yet provide no examples of what you mean or where we are slacking. I suggested to PM Caedes directly, then mentioned that some art may not be pleasing to all...
where were you afraid this would go, that it apparently went to rapidly???

If there is a problem, it is best to contact Caedes.

We here at Caedes don't have any power to PULL an image...only a selected few can, and generally they do their jobs pretty well. So without anything to show us where we have slacked, or evidence of a major infraction, we are all left going...

OK...huh????

I apologize if you don't like my response to this thread. My suggestion again, is that if there is an image that is against Caedes rules, please send a PM to Caedes directly with a link to this image.
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To humor the party pooper who complained, I will censor my quote======= THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:: Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine, into your brain, and THAT is where poopy-ish ideas come from!!
.akashastrega
11/10/06 9:19 PM GMT
Don't be so cryptic. If there is an issue, we need to know what it is, and barring this, a thread won't do much...PMing Caedes about this image will.
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To humor the party pooper who complained, I will censor my quote======= THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:: Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine, into your brain, and THAT is where poopy-ish ideas come from!!
::J_272004
11/10/06 11:00 PM GMT
I have been here for a couple of years, and I havent ever seen anything offensive on this site, if someone does try to upload something like that, it doesn't get approved.. as for "letting us know" about the image that is so offensive to you, Jen (akashastrega) is correct, if you have a concern about it, there is a button on the image that says complain, there you can say what is upsetting about the image and Piner or Caedes will look into it..

I know you have written this thread to warn people, but what is offensive to you maybe fine with others, a link would have been appropriate that way members can judge for themselves if they think its offensive..

Art comes in many shapes, forms and themes, it is creativity and imagination.. there have been many famous artists who have created masterpieces of violence, nudes, horror etc.. lots of the 18th centuary art work contained nudes, violence.. some were pretty horrific, and today they are called classics..
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MY GALLERY ........... "Live one day at a time and make it a masterpiece"
.akashastrega
11/10/06 11:13 PM GMT
Thank You Jaq for that. I have seen images here that are not to MY taste, but what I consider art--or not art-- someone else may think differently. Some of the great artists at one point or another created something that didn't fit with EVERYBODY.

I too, have been here a couple years, and haven't seen anything that I'd say was outright offensive or blatantly broke the rules of Caedes...and without anything but a cryptic message, we don't know what the problem is.

I already PM'd Piner, and he said he'd investigate further...and we Feisty Tavern Smurfs are all too aware of what a pitbull he can be IF there IS in fact an infraction.

Art is meant to provoke you, to make you think and feel. Sometimes you feel...eeewww...but if the art is not harming anyone, it just isn't what I like...that isn't a reason to censor it...and I don't want Caedes to start censoring things that are not fuzzy bunnies.
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To humor the party pooper who complained, I will censor my quote======= THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:: Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine, into your brain, and THAT is where poopy-ish ideas come from!!
&KEIFER
11/10/06 11:50 PM GMT
There is a complain button on an individual's profile page (I am actively campaigning for a button on the image page as well)

DO NOT hesitate to use this button ... the situation will be evaluated by another pair of eyes and a decision will be made from there ....... it is NOT guaranteed removal ... and you will, of course, remain anonymous

I, personally, would prefer that you do this rather than to leave cryptic, open-ended statements here .. and then get all shy and squirmy over the response

clicking the complain button opens a "comment box" for you to fill out ... it doesn't automatically send a siren to the authorities ..... just state AUTHOR, IMAGE NAME, and REASON ... and there will be a "johnny-on-the-spot" .. mui-pronto
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SMOKING can lead to management opportunities
::laurengary
11/10/06 11:51 PM GMT
I'm so sorry Aubrey, but I too find this whole thread rather confusing. If you want to warn us of something specifically, then by all means please do.

On the whole, I agree that I don't like censorship in any form. HOWEVER, having said that, I also feel that Caedes might not be the foum for some types of Art. Caedes is a family site, per se, and some things, despite recent TV shows & the plethora of movies, just don't belong here. There are other sites better suited to the more controversial types of Art.

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+Samatar
11/10/06 11:59 PM GMT
It's certainly possible that we will miss something that another member will pick up. If so, just use the complain button as mentioned above or PM a mod who is online at the time if you feel the image needs to be removed immediately. If there is any uncertainty as to whether the image is offensive or not the group will make a joint decision. Posting a non specific message like this doesn't really give us anywhere to start and the public forum really isn't the place to make such a complaint anyway.
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-Everyone is entitled to my opinion- rescope.com.au
::Hottrockin
11/11/06 12:12 AM GMT
~walks around corner picking nose~

Uhhh, sorry.

I feel a contest coming on!! A "how sick can you be" contest without breaking the rules of upload. A great idea!!

~wipes booger on wall and walks away~

8~D I teasin', I teasin'...can you give us an example or PM a MOD about the post in question? One person's take on art is different than anothers...just something to keep in mind.
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Picture Purrrfect . Why does the picture come out square when the lens is round??? 8~O
::J_272004
11/11/06 12:18 AM GMT
Hey Jen.. can you hear echos in here..hehehehehe
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MY GALLERY ........... "Live one day at a time and make it a masterpiece"
::third_eye
11/11/06 12:25 AM GMT
hmmm, recent events in north america...could include the 'thumpin' republicans just suffered. i was wondering how many rabid, right-wing kooks would be foaming at the mouth.. would this be one of them?
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lately, i've fallen horribly behind in my thanks and comments. I'll catch up, but until I do, please know all your kind words are greatly appreciated.
&philcUK
11/11/06 12:39 AM GMT
it could be just another woman shows ankle to chimney sweep scenario again - who can say but as others have said here already - complain features exist for individuals to bring something to light that they have taken offense at.
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A smart bomb is only as clever as the idiot that tells it what to do……si vis pacem para bellum.
::laurengary
11/11/06 12:43 AM GMT
So .... how about them Mets ?!
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I'm not only weird, but I'm gifted too ! ......CLICK TO SAVE LIVES ! .......MY GALLERY
::third_eye
11/11/06 12:45 AM GMT
they're all multimillionaires... so even at the worst of times,how bad off could they be?
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lately, i've fallen horribly behind in my thanks and comments. I'll catch up, but until I do, please know all your kind words are greatly appreciated.
*caedes
11/11/06 12:47 AM GMT
Those chimney sweep lads see all the action.
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-caedes
::laurengary
11/11/06 12:48 AM GMT
Boy no kiddin'
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I'm not only weird, but I'm gifted too ! ......CLICK TO SAVE LIVES ! .......MY GALLERY
::Hottrockin
11/11/06 12:49 AM GMT
hehehe..."The Man" has a good sense of humor!!

~beats the Rocker to the punch~
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Picture Purrrfect . Why does the picture come out square when the lens is round??? 8~O
&KEIFER
11/11/06 1:13 AM GMT
I've never met a Met I didn't like .. of course, I've never met a Met .. nor do I understand meta Met ... but my shrink, Mehta Mett, is a doctor and therefore a Med-A-Mett .. he says .. "No Worries Mate"

(*looks up*) ... oh .. wrong thread
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SMOKING can lead to management opportunities
=Piner
11/11/06 2:42 AM GMT
Hmmmm...'sick puppies' Aubrey says.... I looked through the recent posts and didn't find any images of immature canines vomiting. :c/
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The work of art may have a moral effect, but to demand moral purpose from an artist is to make him ruin his work. (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - 1832)
::madmaven
11/11/06 11:36 AM GMT
**********what did I do NOW???***************:)


sometimes "bad" is in one's own mind....
and i may see an apple...and you may see a worm?
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Due to FALL being my busiest season at my store...I rarely am able to view & comment. Someday I will catch up. PLEASE...if there is a particular work that you really want me to view, pm and I will make it a priority! Thanks so much!
.AUBREY
11/11/06 6:02 PM GMT
Right wing kook? Lectures on Art? Nose picking?
I rest my case. Nothing further from me.
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.speedy_10
11/11/06 8:12 PM GMT
The thread is open for the hijacking... once everyone is finished... then it will reside in chaos... *leaves quickly* ahhhh
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::third_eye
11/11/06 9:50 PM GMT
looks like we 'picked a winner' (nose reference) sorry, but maybe it's my built-in nyc cynicism. someone making vague references to 'recent events' and then hurling insults to someone's post without naming anything, or anyone sort of seems more interested in fostering drama than actually obtaining results. you were advised to make your concerns known to those who run the site. when you want to maturely and rationally (key word) explain your concern, i'd happily give it the attention it would deserve, as i'm sure others would as well.
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lately, i've fallen horribly behind in my thanks and comments. I'll catch up, but until I do, please know all your kind words are greatly appreciated.
.Jhihmoac
11/12/06 11:35 AM GMT
...And where are "Aubrey's" artistic endeavours? I sure don't see any! I've always said..."Those whom can't DO....CRITIQUE!"
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"Let us forever cherish and hold sacred these moments...for it is our undoing ...should we forget..." -William Shakespeare ... Visit Jhihmoac's Gallery
&KEIFER
11/12/06 11:48 AM GMT
well .. folks ... how about if we NOT pile on AUBREY .. and let her remain in her comfort zone

I don't feel the terms she 'bristled' at were aimed at her .. but some of the commentary is heading that direction ... and .. if you'll notice the .dot next to her name, you can see she did, in fact, have works posted and now she does NOT
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::third_eye
11/12/06 1:34 PM GMT
actually, to quote a much earlier quote (hehe) from keith, "her artistry wasn't in doubt, it was the validity of her her adult merit badge" . I actually saw her works, and some were quite good. Hey, Van Gogh was crazy too, you know....
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lately, i've fallen horribly behind in my thanks and comments. I'll catch up, but until I do, please know all your kind words are greatly appreciated.
.Jhihmoac
11/12/06 1:52 PM GMT
I think I know which image Aubrey's got issues with now...If it's the one I think it is...I beg to differ with her opinion....because I think it's brilliant!
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"Let us forever cherish and hold sacred these moments...for it is our undoing ...should we forget..." -William Shakespeare ... Visit Jhihmoac's Gallery
::madmaven
11/12/06 1:58 PM GMT
Enlighten us, Ron.....if it's anything offensive I posted...I will happily delete it....
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Due to FALL being my busiest season at my store...I rarely am able to view & comment. Someday I will catch up. PLEASE...if there is a particular work that you really want me to view, pm and I will make it a priority! Thanks so much!
.Jhihmoac
11/12/06 2:09 PM GMT
It's not one of yours, Terri...I'm not sure...but I think it's this one ...
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"Let us forever cherish and hold sacred these moments...for it is our undoing ...should we forget..." -William Shakespeare ... Visit Jhihmoac's Gallery
::madmaven
11/12/06 2:31 PM GMT
Please don't tell me that's so.....DeLaine is VERY talented...and very misunderstood.../ let's not assume it's his..../ I am way more offensive...*takes blue ribbon for most warped person*....
I truly am sorry if I have ever offended...
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Due to FALL being my busiest season at my store...I rarely am able to view & comment. Someday I will catch up. PLEASE...if there is a particular work that you really want me to view, pm and I will make it a priority! Thanks so much!
&philcUK
11/12/06 3:16 PM GMT
that would figure I guess, Hazy has had VERY similarly worded attacks on his work before, all of them grossly unjustified but, as we aren’t worthy to be allowed to know which image caused such offence, we can only hypothesise.
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A smart bomb is only as clever as the idiot that tells it what to do……si vis pacem para bellum.
&KEIFER
11/12/06 3:30 PM GMT
(*backs up to his gallery, arms splayed out in a protective gesture*) ...

and the hypothesizing had better stop before before you guys start pickin' on my chillin .. er ... images
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&philcUK
11/12/06 3:33 PM GMT
we'd be more likely to pick on your gratuitous use of the letter Z - sorry - Zee - in words that should have an S in them :-)
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A smart bomb is only as clever as the idiot that tells it what to do……si vis pacem para bellum.
::third_eye
11/12/06 3:37 PM GMT
whereas keith would be more likely to pick...his nose, i suppose
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lately, i've fallen horribly behind in my thanks and comments. I'll catch up, but until I do, please know all your kind words are greatly appreciated.
&KEIFER
11/12/06 3:43 PM GMT
hey ... at least I don't spell color as colour ... that, alone, saves our newspapers 1000 gallons of ink a year ... which they use for scandals .. and .. "recent events" .. :o)
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&philcUK
11/12/06 3:45 PM GMT
indeed :-)
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A smart bomb is only as clever as the idiot that tells it what to do……si vis pacem para bellum.
.Jhihmoac
11/12/06 4:10 PM GMT
Personally, I think the original poster of this particular thread might be a trite jealous over someone else's artistic talents and extremely skilled computer generated image rendering capabilities!...But that's just my opinion!
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"Let us forever cherish and hold sacred these moments...for it is our undoing ...should we forget..." -William Shakespeare ... Visit Jhihmoac's Gallery
&KEIFER
11/12/06 4:27 PM GMT
hmmmm ... doubt it ........ there's half a chance they were, indeed, offended, as they implied

sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

~sigmondo phroido
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::madmaven
11/12/06 5:38 PM GMT
I rather like it spelled Colour.......and find it is way more elegant....than our slang....dagnabbit!
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Due to FALL being my busiest season at my store...I rarely am able to view & comment. Someday I will catch up. PLEASE...if there is a particular work that you really want me to view, pm and I will make it a priority! Thanks so much!
.akashastrega
11/12/06 5:55 PM GMT
Well, I thought that the linked image was pretty creative and didn't find it offensive...but then who knows if THAT is indeed the image.

With a few cryptic messages we cannot be sure unless AUBREY actually speaks with someone at the site. And Lauren, you're right, some of these images are not so family friendly, but as you said, art shouldn't be censored...but maybe it would serve itself better elsewhere, but that isn't for me to say...as my views will undoubtedly vary from the next person's.

The point is, Aubrey made a cryptic thread then huffed and puffed when the response given wasn't to their liking...Rob said it best, there ARE more mature ways of dealing with issues. Thank you Aubrey for warning us, it's always good to get a heads up...in the future though, it may be better served to contact the "powers that be" here at Caedes.

Now that I think we've got our views across, and there isn't a whole lot more we can say...
Can we hijack this thread now???
Please?
*gooses Terri for liking "colour" over "color" and runs away giggling*
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To humor the party pooper who complained, I will censor my quote======= THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:: Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine, into your brain, and THAT is where poopy-ish ideas come from!!
::third_eye
11/12/06 5:58 PM GMT
*gooses Terri too* no good reasons, just cuz i wanted to :P
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lately, i've fallen horribly behind in my thanks and comments. I'll catch up, but until I do, please know all your kind words are greatly appreciated.
&philcUK
11/12/06 5:59 PM GMT
well colour is a hybrid word from the french (colur or coleur) and from the latin (colorem) so make of it what you will :-)
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A smart bomb is only as clever as the idiot that tells it what to do……si vis pacem para bellum.
&KEIFER
11/12/06 6:59 PM GMT
Well .. I vote fer culler .. 'tis tray sheek
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::third_eye
11/12/06 7:09 PM GMT
hmmm do tray sheeks work in fast food restaurants in the middle east?
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lately, i've fallen horribly behind in my thanks and comments. I'll catch up, but until I do, please know all your kind words are greatly appreciated.
&KEIFER
11/12/06 7:18 PM GMT
sheesh .. they are manyoufeek grawndey
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.CurtieBear
11/12/06 8:02 PM GMT
*Gooses Rob*

this random goose moment was brought to you by B.O.B.
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Don't make me do VooDoo on you. Mwa-ha-ha-ha-haaaa
.akashastrega
11/12/06 8:33 PM GMT
Well Curt...watch out, cuz I have a wet-willy for you...
oh and I stole your fave hooker heels
*razzberry*
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To humor the party pooper who complained, I will censor my quote======= THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:: Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine, into your brain, and THAT is where poopy-ish ideas come from!!
::madmaven
11/12/06 8:34 PM GMT
Gooses Jen and tries to make out with her coz I have had 4 hurricanes.....{drinks}....not that it takes 4 to want u Jen babeeee...but if u is gonna kick my butt for tryin...I best be drunk and not feel it....
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Due to FALL being my busiest season at my store...I rarely am able to view & comment. Someday I will catch up. PLEASE...if there is a particular work that you really want me to view, pm and I will make it a priority! Thanks so much!
.akashastrega
11/12/06 8:42 PM GMT
You been drinking and NOT sharing???
That earns you an atomic wedgie!!
You know I am always down for a good round of drinking!!
And if you wanna make out, all you gotta do is ask.
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To humor the party pooper who complained, I will censor my quote======= THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:: Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine, into your brain, and THAT is where poopy-ish ideas come from!!
::madmaven
11/12/06 8:43 PM GMT
Jen and Terri make out....whilst cameras flash....more members delete galleries and move....and Lauren says...ewwwwwww
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Due to FALL being my busiest season at my store...I rarely am able to view & comment. Someday I will catch up. PLEASE...if there is a particular work that you really want me to view, pm and I will make it a priority! Thanks so much!
.akashastrega
11/12/06 8:47 PM GMT
Prudes!!!
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To humor the party pooper who complained, I will censor my quote======= THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:: Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine, into your brain, and THAT is where poopy-ish ideas come from!!
&KEIFER
11/12/06 9:19 PM GMT
(*sketches*) ... (*sketches*) ... (*sketches*) ... (*watches*) ... (*sketches*) ... (*sketches*) ... (*sketches*) ...
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=Piner
11/12/06 9:27 PM GMT
KaBOOM!
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The work of art may have a moral effect, but to demand moral purpose from an artist is to make him ruin his work. (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - 1832)

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