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View Full Size vs. Download

::CurtieBear
02/24/07 7:11 AM GMT
Just a thought here...

What about disabling the ability to right clack an image to save it, and add an actual download button, whe you want to keep the image on your computer.

On your images stats it could look something like -
Views: 29
Full View: 19
Downloads: 5
(and if a fav count option is used)
Faves: 15
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I always try to balance the light with the heavy - a few tears of human spirit in with the sequins and the fringes ~ Bette Midler ~ ~ (My GALLERY, such as it is.) ~ :o)

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::DigiCamMan
02/24/07 9:03 AM GMT
I would prefer a no full size view no comment. You can't judge a picture by a thumbnail. It would slow people down and if they comment they will really have to look at the pic.
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::CurtieBear
02/24/07 11:02 AM GMT
Pretty much along the same lines as a "No Comment, No Vote" I would also like to see. But that's a different topic.

The reason I brought this one up, is it would not only help the artist to determin the "popularity" of an image, but it could also be helpful for the mods, from a numbers crunching perspective.

As we already know, just because an image has been viewed full sized doesn't necessarily mean they saved it to their hard-drive. This would just help to refine those numbers a bit.

Another aspect to this could be to help to deter the ripping of images. Yes, people could still use screen captures, which could be countered by using a Caedes watermark on the full sized image. Downloading the image would get you one without the watermark, as well as, added to a list of accounts who have downloaded the image. Add to that, you can't download an image without signing up, and having an account.

Like I said... just a thought. :o)
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I always try to balance the light with the heavy - a few tears of human spirit in with the sequins and the fringes ~ Bette Midler ~ ~ (My GALLERY, such as it is.) ~ :o)
.Tootles
02/24/07 11:37 AM GMT
Quite often I download images only to delete them later, so even then the download figures would be skewed. :-). Just a thought. For instance, 15 people could have saved an image to disk, and only 7 will have kept them - and of those, perhaps one is using it regularly.
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+Samatar
02/24/07 11:48 AM GMT
A sound idea I think. Just don't know about the technical side. Are there other sites that do this?
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::CurtieBear
02/24/07 11:50 AM GMT
True, but when you download an image, do you just let it sit in a folder to be forgotten, or do you put the image up on your monitor for the day/week?

Myself, I keep them for quite a while. I use a product called Wallpaper Magic which automatically changes my desktop as well acts as my screen saver. So at any point I have no idea what image will be up. Always a treat. But at work, yes an image stays up for a week or two. Often depending on the response of co-workers.

Thats the point of being able to track dl's. It shows that the image is being used.

If the concern is that people may keep downloading am image to "get it's numbers up".
a) that's rather childish...
b) allow an accout to be taged only once for the down load count.
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I always try to balance the light with the heavy - a few tears of human spirit in with the sequins and the fringes ~ Bette Midler ~ ~ (My GALLERY, such as it is.) ~ :o)
::CurtieBear
02/24/07 12:25 AM GMT
OMG.. I am such a doofus... I put this in the wrong area... It should be in "feature bloat"

*smacks head repeatedly with a fistfull of wet noodles*
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I always try to balance the light with the heavy - a few tears of human spirit in with the sequins and the fringes ~ Bette Midler ~ ~ (My GALLERY, such as it is.) ~ :o)
&KEIFER
02/24/07 12:26 AM GMT
umm ... so if I download it via this button of yours, I am duty-bound to keep it? ... it must forever occupy storage bytes in some location in my domicile? ... so that you can have a number that represents ... what?

I assume, (wrongly, I'm told) .. that a download is a keeper .... there is never going to be a way to determine whether somebody has fallen out-of-love with it at a future date ... just look at the "till death do us part" statistics


under the ["download"] button we would need buttons for

[it used to be "the cat's meow" for me, but not so much anymore]

[i've burned it to CD a month ago and don't even remember it]

[I am selling prints of it in my CAFE-PRESS store, please make more]



(just teasin' you CB)
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::CurtieBear
02/24/07 12:33 AM GMT
*starts googling cafe-press for images*

LOL
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I always try to balance the light with the heavy - a few tears of human spirit in with the sequins and the fringes ~ Bette Midler ~ ~ (My GALLERY, such as it is.) ~ :o)
::third_eye
02/24/07 9:09 PM GMT
if this was already covered, my apologies. in the VB, one can't vote on an image without seeing it full view, so the same "lock" could easily be applied to commenting, I'd imagine...no?
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Hi,my name is Rob..ok, so I'm not the greatest at replies and comments. Sorry. For anyone needing to contact me, my email is back up in my profile. >> my cluttered mess of a gallery
::DigiCamMan
02/24/07 9:34 PM GMT
The trick is to get people to slow down and open the picture so they can actually see it before commenting. Half look at the thumbnail and that's it. It could be a booger on their screen and they wouldn't know the difference. Watermarking pics may not be a bad idea...not sure for wallpapers but it sure doesn't help me trying to sell pics. May have to unload the gallery one day and lean toward selling them before some one else does.
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. Albert Camus ........ My Gallery
.Tootles
02/24/07 11:06 PM GMT
"True, but when you download an image, do you just let it sit in a folder to be forgotten, or do you put the image up on your monitor for the day/week?"

I have an iMac, which allows me to use a random setting for my wallpapers. They can change every half hour, every 15 mins, every 5 mins (etc). I enjoy it too, but it means I'm constantly waking up the Mac to see what it's showing now...
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::DigiCamMan
02/24/07 11:49 PM GMT
Why should anyone care how long someone has a pic after they download it? If you buy a picture is it mandatory that you hang it on a wall?
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. Albert Camus ........ My Gallery
&KEIFER
02/25/07 12:41 AM GMT
while the NINJA crew is out thumping the bad guys on the head for ripping ... they can stop by the houses of those folks who have downloaded images .. and check on things ..

like, what's in the fridge .. what kind of fabric softener you use .. how long an image has been exposed to cathode rays
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::CurtieBear
02/25/07 6:46 AM GMT
Keifer, if ya run into a box of Thin Mint in Les's freezer, could ya grab em for me?

Coolies, you're a pal.

:oP
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I always try to balance the light with the heavy - a few tears of human spirit in with the sequins and the fringes ~ Bette Midler ~ ~ (My GALLERY, such as it is.) ~ :o)
&Crusader
02/25/07 7:28 AM GMT
While this is a good idea in theory, the practical difficulties (as I see it) would make it very difficult to implement.

Disabling the right-click is all fine and good, but unless Caedes finds a way to allow the full view to be saved when you click on the DL button (within the full view itself), it would mean that you would have to download the actual image twice - once for the full view, and once with the DL button. Doubling the amount of data which us dail-up users won't appreciate.

With the full view, no comment idea - what happens if someone wants to comment multiple times? The database needed to keep track of which image each user has already viewed, would be huge.
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::third_eye
02/25/07 4:15 PM GMT
by the way, i just noticed...the smaller version (not quite a thumbnail) which is seen at the top of the image's page, no longer has a right-click block. It can now be copy-pasted. not sure why that is, but also not sure it's a good idea. was this intentional, or just an oversight during the re-structuring?
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Hi,my name is Rob..ok, so I'm not the greatest at replies and comments. Sorry. For anyone needing to contact me, my email is back up in my profile. >> my cluttered mess of a gallery
&KEIFER
02/25/07 5:23 PM GMT
that "snooty" message has caused at least ONE member to get upset and leave .. (*I forget which image that was on*)

so .. if it works as a FOOL-FILTER .. I say bring it back
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::third_eye
02/25/07 6:08 PM GMT
then how would you log on?
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Hi,my name is Rob..ok, so I'm not the greatest at replies and comments. Sorry. For anyone needing to contact me, my email is back up in my profile. >> my cluttered mess of a gallery
::CurtieBear
02/25/07 6:09 PM GMT
OK.. I'm now officially lost.. LOL
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I always try to balance the light with the heavy - a few tears of human spirit in with the sequins and the fringes ~ Bette Midler ~ ~ (My GALLERY, such as it is.) ~ :o)
::third_eye
02/25/07 6:24 PM GMT
*hands Curt a dollar, a map, and a flashlight* the dollar..? go buy a clue ;-)
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Hi,my name is Rob..ok, so I'm not the greatest at replies and comments. Sorry. For anyone needing to contact me, my email is back up in my profile. >> my cluttered mess of a gallery
.animaniactoo
02/25/07 6:57 PM GMT
personally i thought that message was hysterical. it made me laugh every time i was an idiot and forgot.
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&KEIFER
02/25/07 7:08 PM GMT
so .. a lot, then

:o)
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::CurtieBear
02/25/07 7:13 PM GMT
You know.. I finally got it... *smack forehead with a tuning fork*

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I always try to balance the light with the heavy - a few tears of human spirit in with the sequins and the fringes ~ Bette Midler ~ ~ (My GALLERY, such as it is.) ~ :o)
::DigiCamMan
02/25/07 10:08 PM GMT
Sheesh Curt...that's no way to treat a tuning fork.
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. Albert Camus ........ My Gallery
.laurengary
02/26/07 3:44 AM GMT
What snooty message, what member & huh ?!
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I'm not only weird, but I'm gifted too ! ......CLICK TO SAVE LIVES ! .......MY GALLERY
.animaniactoo
02/26/07 3:54 AM GMT
"there is no point in right-clicking on this image" "good luck w/that"
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One man sees things and says "why?" - but I dream things that never were and I say "why not?"
::DigiCamMan
02/26/07 6:47 AM GMT
Well it is better than 'kinda stupid aren't you?'
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. Albert Camus ........ My Gallery
::CurtieBear
02/26/07 6:51 AM GMT
How about: "You keep a knockin', but you can't come in."
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I always try to balance the light with the heavy - a few tears of human spirit in with the sequins and the fringes ~ Bette Midler ~ ~ (My GALLERY, such as it is.) ~ :o)
.ffxfireman
02/26/07 11:58 AM GMT
I think "watermarking" an image for example in a corner would be a good idea. Have the ability to download a non_watermarked image i would think it would mean that you would have to have a mega server with twice the number of images (watermarked ad non-watermarked). Now, can non-members download images or you have to be a member to do that? On another subject, (before my pc died, and thankfully i had a cd copy as back up) i had hundreds of images that i had in a folder which i use not only as a source for wallpaper but also as a screen saver, which is really awesome. Tony
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