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.margali
02/27/07 3:20 PM GMT
I'm running Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.4.8. I'm not sure whether this is a browser of site issue. Although I have found Firefox 2 crashes more than previous versions, it does not do so repeatedly unless it hates a particularly toxic page. However, this afternoon it _is_ crashing repeatedly. All I have open are a tab for Google and tabs for Caedes. It could be a new "feature" of 2.0.0.2 which is fairly new, but it seemed fine until this afternoon. If there's any reason for this to do with Caedes (which appears to be going through some further updating today), could somebody tell me so I know it is probably not my browser or set-up?

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cfr
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.timw4mail
02/27/07 9:54 PM GMT
I've had no problems with Firefox on Windows. I upgraded to 2.0.0.2 on my Mac too, and I also haven't seen that crash, although I haven't used it very extensively. It could be that another program on your computer isn't cooperating with Firefox...but other than that, I really don't know.
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.margali
02/28/07 12:07 AM GMT
Thanks. It seems to especially dislike lots of tabs being open, waking from sleep and/or being asked to do something after a period of inactivity. Not sure why. I'm not always getting TalkBack kick in either.

If it isn't the programme or the site, my next guess would be an extension rather than a programme. Mac OS X is _pretty_ good at preventing those kinds of conflicts, whereas extensions are infamously bad at it!

Thanks for the info.

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&KEIFER
02/28/07 1:29 AM GMT
Firefox (on Windows) now has a built in "disable" on a per extension basis ... pretty handy for testing purposes .. it used to be if the author didn't code it in you would have to uninstall it ... of course if it doesn't completely "disable" it you may still have crashes and think you've TESTED

I have Tabs open the length of a football field (in that "only in America" unit of measurement) ... and I have had zero problems that I can attribute to that

opening JAVA or sometimes a FLASH site gives me the willies ... everything just locks up

also .. if I'm loading a tab or two and my connection breaks, firefox becomes braindead and can't resume loading when the connection is re-established .. and I usually close it and start over
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.timw4mail
02/28/07 2:08 AM GMT
Just out of curiosity, what extensions do you have?
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.margali
02/28/07 5:26 PM GMT
Too many:
Adblock & the updater
Adblock Plus (disabled - not compatible)
Advanced Dork
All-in-One Sidebar (disabled - problems))
Answers
British Eng Dictionary (disabled - not compatible)
BugMeNot
ChromEdit Plus
Clipmarks
Clippings
Colorful Tabs
Compact Menu
Context Highlight
Context Search
Coogle
Cooliris Previews
CustomizeGoogle
CuteMenus
DOM Inspector
Download Statusbar
DownThemAll!
Enhanced Bookmark Search
Enhanced History Manager
Fasterfox
FireFTP
Form Saver
FormFox (disabled - not compatible)
FoxClocks
FoxLingo
FoxyProxy
FoxyTunes
Geiriadur Cymraeg
GetFile
Growl Download Notification
Highlight Focus
Internote
JavaScript Options
KeywordBar
Iget
Location Navigator
Map+
My Portal
NoScript
Open link in...
OpenOffice.org Menu
Paragrasp
Permit Cookies
Petname Tool
Print Image
Print/Print Preview
Redirect Remover
RefControl
Restarter
Sage
Save Link in Folder
Save Session
ScrapBook
SearchBox Sync
SmoothWheel (disabled - not compatible)
Split Browser
Tab History
Tab Saver!
Tab Sidebar (disabled - not compatible)
Tabbrowser Preferences
Tabs Open Relative (disabled - not compatible ?? worked yesterday??)
Talkback
TargetAlert
Tark
Update Bookmark (disabled - not compatible)
View Cookies
Wikipedia Toolbar (disabled - not compatible)
Wizz
Work Offline
X-Ray
Zotero

As you can see, the chances of it being an extension are basically huge. My extensions have been out of control for a while, although it's only since Firefox 2 that I've been seeing so many crashes.

Incidentally, the disable option for extensions has been in the Mac OS X version for ages - ever since I remember. It seems to work, too. At least, disabling extensions seems to solve problems they are causing, so it must be doing a reasonably good job.

- cfr
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&KEIFER
02/28/07 6:16 PM GMT
what was it you said about OCD meds? ... should I be endorsing them for you or not?
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.noahnott
02/28/07 11:55 PM GMT
how long did it take to just create that list!?
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&KEIFER
03/01/07 1:51 AM GMT
maybe you can live without "Petname Tool" ... ask us, we'll name your pets .. we won't even charge you ...

unless you're one of them cat-ladies .. that we see on the news now and then
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.timw4mail
03/01/07 2:47 AM GMT
Personally, I would un-install adblock and its updater, as adblock plus is fully compatible with Firefox 2, and even Firefox 3 alphas.

Other than that, I don't even know where to start. Most of the extensions in that list I've never used!
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.margali
03/01/07 4:49 AM GMT
Keifer: ??
noahnott: I didn't create it, Firefox did - I just copied it
Keifer: er... ?? (I've no idea why it's called that - it's a security tool)
timw4mail: hmm... Firefox doesn't think adblock plus is compatible (and it can't find an update)

Well, somebody did ask.

- cfr
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&KEIFER
03/01/07 8:19 AM GMT
Honestly .. I would delete all of those .. then add back in the ones you really miss .. SLOWLY ... I would deffinately say your problems are from tee many martoonies

the start-up script probably occupies 200% of the RAM in Europe

when I download extensions .. I save to disk the little .xpi file instead of allowing it to install from the web ... this way I can re-install all of my favorites, without having to hunt them down, should I need to rebuild (something I've had to do in the past) ... you just open the Add-Ons window and drag and drop them on it
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.margali
03/01/07 7:04 PM GMT
I was only asking to eliminate possibilities. That's really all. I know full well the issues extensions can cause and I accept that. I just wanted to know there wasn't a more fundamental issue before dealing with the complexity. (I know I should anyway - it's just not something I'm eager to do!)

- cfr
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.timw4mail
03/02/07 12:38 AM GMT
It scares me that you would install that many extensions!
I know for a fact that Adblock Plus is compatible with Firefox 2, as I've always used it.

I'm surprised you don't have stumbleapon...not that you need suggestions for more extensions to try ^^;
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.margali
03/02/07 2:23 AM GMT
I find it quite easy enough to waste time on the web as it is - I don't need any further suggestions to help me along in that direction!

- cfr
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.noahnott
03/02/07 2:34 AM GMT
I have:

ColorZilla
New.net Quick! Search

Now thats a list. ;-) (sorry, i had to share my extensions)
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.margali
03/02/07 4:24 AM GMT
Presumably also Talkback? Or did you uninstall it? (Or maybe the Windows version doesn't include that?)

Curious about the enthusiasm for Adblock Plus. There seem to be plenty of people who prefer Adblcok over Adblock Plus and vice-versa. But I can't find any mention of the advantages the latter has over the former. Absent some reason to switch, my policy is: if it ain't broke and it does everything you need, don't change it. (I realise my extension list suggests otherwise, but it is so nonetheless.)

The latest version of ColorZilla doesn't seem to be going down all that well. I would be suspicious of this one just because I'd imagine it would be quite hard to get it to work well for cross-platform support.

Currently fiddling with my extensions, though more out of a desire to do general house-keeping than anything else. I find some of the security related ones (Permit and View Cookies, NoScript, JavaScript Options, Petname Tool etc.) very useful. Some of the enhancements to tabbed browsing are also fantastic.

I'm not sure if Adblock is really doing much. I suspect I'm blocking most of it at an earlier stage.

*Shrugs.*

- cfr
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::DigiCamMan
03/04/07 4:12 AM GMT
Sheesh! That extension list...no wonder it crashes it's way over weight.
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