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last I checked .. MILK was an animal product
now they can pretend they are "holier than thou" because they don't have chocolate based endorphins coursing thru their veins .. should fit right into their normal routine\mindset
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now they can pretend they are "holier than thou" because they don't have chocolate based endorphins coursing thru their veins .. should fit right into their normal routine\mindset
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For lots of weird reasons i think it’s a good thing.
If you were a strict vegetarian you wouldn’t be eating it anyway as the chocolate already contains animal fats in the form of milk used in it so it would make no change to you anyway.
If you were a full blown tree hugger you wouldn’t be eating it anyway as it contains products harvested in the developing world such as palm oil, the production of which is proving to be damaging to the eco systems there.
The confectionary market in the UK is shrinking at a vast rate anyway and companies such as Masterfoods and Nestle are spending less and less on the promotion and production of these products.
It may encourage parents into stopping buying confectionary for their children and offer them a healthier snack solution which is no bad thing.
It will also provide a bigger market for organic and other healthier confectionary products which are still somewhat marginalised.
If you were a strict vegetarian you wouldn’t be eating it anyway as the chocolate already contains animal fats in the form of milk used in it so it would make no change to you anyway.
If you were a full blown tree hugger you wouldn’t be eating it anyway as it contains products harvested in the developing world such as palm oil, the production of which is proving to be damaging to the eco systems there.
The confectionary market in the UK is shrinking at a vast rate anyway and companies such as Masterfoods and Nestle are spending less and less on the promotion and production of these products.
It may encourage parents into stopping buying confectionary for their children and offer them a healthier snack solution which is no bad thing.
It will also provide a bigger market for organic and other healthier confectionary products which are still somewhat marginalised.
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A smart bomb is only as clever as the idiot that tells it what to do
Milk may be an animal product, but there are some vegetarians who don't eat MEAT because the animal has to be killed to get it. I don't know any way to get a chemical from the lining of a calves stomach that won't be extremely painful/messy/involving tubes and all that jazz.
Vegans are the ones who don't eat dairy products or any product of an animal; when I saw this, a few of the vegetarians in my class vowed never to eat Mars chocolate again, whereas they did before.
I think they're making a bit of a mistake business wise; the profits will go down a fair way.
But I do agree with Phil on this... parents (well, some) will stop buying chocolate as much. If you ask me... I'd ditch Mars for cranberries.
But don't touch my Cadbury's. Or you shall feel my wrath >:(
Vegans are the ones who don't eat dairy products or any product of an animal; when I saw this, a few of the vegetarians in my class vowed never to eat Mars chocolate again, whereas they did before.
I think they're making a bit of a mistake business wise; the profits will go down a fair way.
But I do agree with Phil on this... parents (well, some) will stop buying chocolate as much. If you ask me... I'd ditch Mars for cranberries.
But don't touch my Cadbury's. Or you shall feel my wrath >:(
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It’s always a marvel how vegetarians can be selective with their beliefs – like why is it ok to breed animals for food production often in cramped and unnatural surroundings – just so long as you don’t kill them for the food as well. It has to be one of the most diluted and misused principles going.
Just so you know, Rennet isn’t extracted from live animals in some weird chemistry experiment that you seem to imagine. Traditionally, it is produced by using Deep-frozen stomachs from already dead animals that are milled and put into an extracting solution – in this solution the rennet enzyme is extracted. More modern methods however are starting to use genetically modified fungi using calf genes to create rennet enzymes in which case no animals are killed at all. Tree huggers, however are still up in arms about this as they are opposed to GM food stuffs, unless it’s soy products which they have had to accept as nearly 90% of soya production is from GM sourced stock. So again – another veggie grey area.
As an extra boost for you – Cadbury’s – whilst tasting v.good – is one of the biggest tree hugger offenders – being one of the biggest users of palm oil and producing possibly some of the most unhealthy chocolate going. Their smallest snack bar alone represents 15% of your daily total fat allowance, 35% of your saturated fat allowance and 30% of your daily sugar intake......
A quick scan of the internet reveal veggies up in arms all over the place over this but they seem to be blissfully unaware that rennet enzymes are in use in lots of snack foods already such as.....
Kraft Cheese Slices
Kettle Chips
Cheese Quavers
Monster Munch
Savoury Cheese Snaps
Spicy Tomato Snaps
Walkers crisps
Doritos
Nutella
Ferrero Rocher
Nestle Chocolate – Aero, Animal Bar, Black Magic, Caramel, Hazel Cluster, Blue Ribband, Breakaway, Camarac , Dairy Box, Turkish Delight, Kit Kat, Lion Bar, Matchmakers, Milkybar, Munchies, Quality Street , Rolo, Smarties, Walnut whip, After Eight, Yorkie .
Pop tarts
etc etc,
all of those and many more besides already contain enzymes sourced from calf guts one way or another. It’s also used in many other dairy products like cheese. Whichever route Masterfoods take – GM or animal sourced it won’t require them to slaughter any additional animals as the enzyme will either come from their labs or as a by-product of their other major product lines – pet foods.
Just so you know, Rennet isn’t extracted from live animals in some weird chemistry experiment that you seem to imagine. Traditionally, it is produced by using Deep-frozen stomachs from already dead animals that are milled and put into an extracting solution – in this solution the rennet enzyme is extracted. More modern methods however are starting to use genetically modified fungi using calf genes to create rennet enzymes in which case no animals are killed at all. Tree huggers, however are still up in arms about this as they are opposed to GM food stuffs, unless it’s soy products which they have had to accept as nearly 90% of soya production is from GM sourced stock. So again – another veggie grey area.
As an extra boost for you – Cadbury’s – whilst tasting v.good – is one of the biggest tree hugger offenders – being one of the biggest users of palm oil and producing possibly some of the most unhealthy chocolate going. Their smallest snack bar alone represents 15% of your daily total fat allowance, 35% of your saturated fat allowance and 30% of your daily sugar intake......
A quick scan of the internet reveal veggies up in arms all over the place over this but they seem to be blissfully unaware that rennet enzymes are in use in lots of snack foods already such as.....
Kraft Cheese Slices
Kettle Chips
Cheese Quavers
Monster Munch
Savoury Cheese Snaps
Spicy Tomato Snaps
Walkers crisps
Doritos
Nutella
Ferrero Rocher
Nestle Chocolate – Aero, Animal Bar, Black Magic, Caramel, Hazel Cluster, Blue Ribband, Breakaway, Camarac , Dairy Box, Turkish Delight, Kit Kat, Lion Bar, Matchmakers, Milkybar, Munchies, Quality Street , Rolo, Smarties, Walnut whip, After Eight, Yorkie .
Pop tarts
etc etc,
all of those and many more besides already contain enzymes sourced from calf guts one way or another. It’s also used in many other dairy products like cheese. Whichever route Masterfoods take – GM or animal sourced it won’t require them to slaughter any additional animals as the enzyme will either come from their labs or as a by-product of their other major product lines – pet foods.
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Kettle ... Kettle ... Kettle Chips, too?
:'o\
Bast**ds.
And the premium price I had been paying was for what??
*stomps off ... maybe even to write a ... that's right, a letter*
One can only imagine, how thrilled 'they' are when they get one of my 'tomes' via email.
They probably don't read my stuff either, lolol. :oD
:'o\
Bast**ds.
And the premium price I had been paying was for what??
*stomps off ... maybe even to write a ... that's right, a letter*
One can only imagine, how thrilled 'they' are when they get one of my 'tomes' via email.
They probably don't read my stuff either, lolol. :oD
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
It’s one of those things Les - if you stopped to worry about the exact contents of what you were eating before you put it in your mouth you'd most likely starve to death in the meantime. there are far worse things than rennet lurking in your food - don't even want to think about what goes into jelly beans/babies...there was probably already some trace of rennet in dairy based chocolate anyways so I can’t see it as a big deal. Many companies - such as Cadbury - will say their products are veggie friendly and indeed - their chocolate is pretty safe in that respect (apart from the salmonella infection they let loose for a month in the production plant) but if you start looking too deeply into it they also use the charmingly named Polyglycerol esters of interesterified ricinoleic acid as an emulsifier – the origins of which can’t be determined as it occurs both in castor oil/ricin as well as in animals and no supplier guarantees its origins with any degree of certainty.
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Haha, I got that salmonella you know. I'm famous :D
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I wish I was a glow worm, a glow worm's never glum. How can you be gloomy when the sun shines out your bum? *runs off into distance giggling*
Ricin??
Ricin?!?!?
Lolol ... oh my.
True say Phil though ... I don't lose any sleep over most ... most of these issues.
GM foodstuffs have been around a long, long time ... the published reports and medical journal entries documenting their collective evils that they have wreaked on us, will happen long after I am gone.
I must say this though ... seeing "Turkish Delights" on that shortened list you provided for our perusal?
Didn't surprise me in the least. Who eats those things??
And perhaps more importantly ... are they being monitored. ;o)
Ricin?!?!?
Lolol ... oh my.
True say Phil though ... I don't lose any sleep over most ... most of these issues.
GM foodstuffs have been around a long, long time ... the published reports and medical journal entries documenting their collective evils that they have wreaked on us, will happen long after I am gone.
I must say this though ... seeing "Turkish Delights" on that shortened list you provided for our perusal?
Didn't surprise me in the least. Who eats those things??
And perhaps more importantly ... are they being monitored. ;o)
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
Turkish Delight is the food of the Gods as well you know - bettered only by Spam. Maybe.
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I always got a kick out of this information about the various constituents of ice cream. Read on if you dare:
I scream, you scream ... what the heck is in my ice cream?
p.s. Much like anything else, as I am sure Phil would attest to ... context is everything. And some knowledge of chemistry would alleviate your disgust as well. ;o)
I scream, you scream ... what the heck is in my ice cream?
p.s. Much like anything else, as I am sure Phil would attest to ... context is everything. And some knowledge of chemistry would alleviate your disgust as well. ;o)
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
rectal skin eh? i'll never look at a double choc chip scoop quite the same again :-)
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LOLOL.
You just had to ... just had to, make it chocolate (double, no less) didn't you? ;o)
EDIT: Excuse me ... and with 'chips.' :oD
You just had to ... just had to, make it chocolate (double, no less) didn't you? ;o)
EDIT: Excuse me ... and with 'chips.' :oD
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
Mmmmmmm!! Chocolate & animals...just flows off the tongue!!
Venison Loin with Chocolate Infused Sauce Recipe courtesy Anthony Calamari
1 (1 1/2-pound) venison loin, or substitute lamb loin
4 cups red wine
4 bay leaves
4 sprigs thyme, plus more for garnish
4 cups venison stock (or beef stock)
1/4 cup semisweet dark chocolate chips
Salt and freshly ground pepper
1/4 cup pecans, toasted and chopped
1 cup honey
3 ounces olive oil
1 pound chanterelles, cleaned and sliced
4 cloves garlic, sliced
1 1/2 pounds braising greens
4 tablespoons fresh lemon juice, plus more to taste
Place the venison loin in a non-reactive bowl or pan and add the red wine, bay leaves, and fresh thyme. Let marinate for 24 hours, refrigerated.
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
Remove the venison loin from the marinade and pat dry using paper towels. Reserve the marinade and pour it into a non-reactive saucepan. Bring to a boil and reduce over high heat until reduced by half. Add the venison stock and lower the heat to medium-low flame. Reduce again by half, then take off the heat and add the semisweet chocolate and whisk. Season with salt and pepper, to taste. Keep warm.
Combine the pecans and honey in a small bowl.
Season the venison with salt and pepper. In an oven-safe saute pan over medium-high heat, heat 1-ounce of olive oil. Sear the loin on 1 side until golden brown and turn, then place the pan in the oven for about 8 to 10 minutes. Cook until an instant-read meat thermometer inserted into the venison loin registers 130 degrees F for medium rare. Remove from pan and allow to rest.
Meanwhile, in a saute pan over high heat, heat 1-ounce of olive oil. Add the chanterelles and season with salt and pepper. Saute for about 4 to 6 minutes or until tender, mixing gradually with a wooden spoon. Reserve.
In another saute pan over medium-high heat, add the remaining 1-ounce of olive oil. Add garlic and saute until golden, about 30 seconds. Then, quickly add braising greens and the 4 tablespoons (or to taste) lemon juice. Saute the braising greens until tender, stirring frequently. Reserve.
For plating: Roll the venison loin in the pecan mixture and then slice into 4 portions.
YUM-A-LICIOUS BABY!!
Venison Loin with Chocolate Infused Sauce Recipe courtesy Anthony Calamari
1 (1 1/2-pound) venison loin, or substitute lamb loin
4 cups red wine
4 bay leaves
4 sprigs thyme, plus more for garnish
4 cups venison stock (or beef stock)
1/4 cup semisweet dark chocolate chips
Salt and freshly ground pepper
1/4 cup pecans, toasted and chopped
1 cup honey
3 ounces olive oil
1 pound chanterelles, cleaned and sliced
4 cloves garlic, sliced
1 1/2 pounds braising greens
4 tablespoons fresh lemon juice, plus more to taste
Place the venison loin in a non-reactive bowl or pan and add the red wine, bay leaves, and fresh thyme. Let marinate for 24 hours, refrigerated.
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
Remove the venison loin from the marinade and pat dry using paper towels. Reserve the marinade and pour it into a non-reactive saucepan. Bring to a boil and reduce over high heat until reduced by half. Add the venison stock and lower the heat to medium-low flame. Reduce again by half, then take off the heat and add the semisweet chocolate and whisk. Season with salt and pepper, to taste. Keep warm.
Combine the pecans and honey in a small bowl.
Season the venison with salt and pepper. In an oven-safe saute pan over medium-high heat, heat 1-ounce of olive oil. Sear the loin on 1 side until golden brown and turn, then place the pan in the oven for about 8 to 10 minutes. Cook until an instant-read meat thermometer inserted into the venison loin registers 130 degrees F for medium rare. Remove from pan and allow to rest.
Meanwhile, in a saute pan over high heat, heat 1-ounce of olive oil. Add the chanterelles and season with salt and pepper. Saute for about 4 to 6 minutes or until tender, mixing gradually with a wooden spoon. Reserve.
In another saute pan over medium-high heat, add the remaining 1-ounce of olive oil. Add garlic and saute until golden, about 30 seconds. Then, quickly add braising greens and the 4 tablespoons (or to taste) lemon juice. Saute the braising greens until tender, stirring frequently. Reserve.
For plating: Roll the venison loin in the pecan mixture and then slice into 4 portions.
YUM-A-LICIOUS BABY!!
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I think it's wrong that only one company makes the game Monopoly!! Picture Purrrfect .
i love animals...especially the ones in spam.
sorry, that was bad.
it's true though, if i worried too much about what i ate...unless i grew it myself...i'd starve to death.
sorry, that was bad.
it's true though, if i worried too much about what i ate...unless i grew it myself...i'd starve to death.
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here's my simple rule of thumb for grocery shopping:
buy as few things as possible that require a label for ingredients
buy as few things as possible that require a label for ingredients
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My simple rule of thumb for grocery shopping:
Buy everything economy, it means less ironing.
Buy everything economy, it means less ironing.
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I wish I was a glow worm, a glow worm's never glum. How can you be gloomy when the sun shines out your bum? *runs off into distance giggling*
My simple rule of thumb for grocery shopping:
Go grocery shopping when you are hungry.
The end results are quite surprising ... and costly.
Go grocery shopping when you are hungry.
The end results are quite surprising ... and costly.
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
My rule of thumb for shopping, let your parents buy, THEN eat ;)
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I think Dave is onto something here.
*rewrites his manifesto on shopping*
*retires to his log cabin in the outback with his invisible friends*
They don't eat much, which is a good thing. :o\
*rewrites his manifesto on shopping*
*retires to his log cabin in the outback with his invisible friends*
They don't eat much, which is a good thing. :o\
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
FOOD FIGHT!!
*Throw's mars bars everywhere*
*Throw's mars bars everywhere*
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*scrambles to gather as many Mars bars as he can*
*starts filling up the water balloons*
*rounds up the naked mole rats ... places right hand on cyan*
*throws out back*
:o|
*starts filling up the water balloons*
*rounds up the naked mole rats ... places right hand on cyan*
*throws out back*
:o|
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
*Feels slightly confused*
Well, i can't let this opportunity to pass ...
*runs outside and does a little chicken dance*
Wait, this goes in that other thread i made or ... or this one, i seem to have turned it into another mental insitution as well :P
Well, i can't let this opportunity to pass ...
*runs outside and does a little chicken dance*
Wait, this goes in that other thread i made or ... or this one, i seem to have turned it into another mental insitution as well :P
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Yes ... yes, you have.
Or did ... er, always have been? :oP
Or did ... er, always have been? :oP
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
all the tree huggers can un-bunch their hessian undergarments now and get back to the important business in life - you know - what boiler suit to where tomorrow etc etc
Masterfoods have already decided not to go ahead with this plan - which probably means they are but there is no way anyone will ever be able to tell anyways thanks to the marvels of genetic engineering :-)
Masterfoods have already decided not to go ahead with this plan - which probably means they are but there is no way anyone will ever be able to tell anyways thanks to the marvels of genetic engineering :-)
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A smart bomb is only as clever as the idiot that tells it what to do
Hoorah!
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I wish I was a glow worm, a glow worm's never glum. How can you be gloomy when the sun shines out your bum? *runs off into distance giggling*
He speaks !!
*takes notes*
She has a new avatar !!
Which means that Jekyll and Hyde are still waiting in the wings.
*ponders on whether or not to open his bag of Kettle Chips*
*sounds of a bag being torn open are heard*
*stays blissfully unaware of what he is ingesting ... notwithstanding the efforts of the food manufacturing conglomerates to hide that knowledge ... and still remain ensconced in delighting in partaking in his gustatory cravings*
/\ Uh ... I kinda rambled there. Can you tell? :oP
*takes notes*
She has a new avatar !!
Which means that Jekyll and Hyde are still waiting in the wings.
*ponders on whether or not to open his bag of Kettle Chips*
*sounds of a bag being torn open are heard*
*stays blissfully unaware of what he is ingesting ... notwithstanding the efforts of the food manufacturing conglomerates to hide that knowledge ... and still remain ensconced in delighting in partaking in his gustatory cravings*
/\ Uh ... I kinda rambled there. Can you tell? :oP
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
Lol ... still chipping away at the mortar of that 'cornerstone' and foundation of English wit, eh?
Ohh ... a retort in that vein ... and from a Canadian no 'les's. :oP
p.s. You still posting to that blog of sorts? Post a link or send it to me in a PM. Was good fodder for the water cooler convos.
Ohh ... a retort in that vein ... and from a Canadian no 'les's. :oP
p.s. You still posting to that blog of sorts? Post a link or send it to me in a PM. Was good fodder for the water cooler convos.
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
no - got too much abusive flak for it so ditched it sadly.
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A smart bomb is only as clever as the idiot that tells it what to do
Ahh nutz. That is a shame.
Had it bookmarked and then re-imaged, and lost it.
Really enjoyed those reads. Articulation is a dying art. :o|
You talking serious grief here, or the run of the mill swarms? Still taxing in their numbers, understandably.
Had it bookmarked and then re-imaged, and lost it.
Really enjoyed those reads. Articulation is a dying art. :o|
You talking serious grief here, or the run of the mill swarms? Still taxing in their numbers, understandably.
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
Run of the mill misinformed idiots for the most part but, as you say, annoying in larger numbers. Decided that time was too precious to waste defending my POV against morons who make Al Gore sound like Gottfried Leibniz.
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A smart bomb is only as clever as the idiot that tells it what to do
LOLOL ... ohhh my.
I saw that you posted and was saving this one.
Now that ... that, is why you should resurrect it and continue. And in particular, have some fun with the pedestrians while you are at.
Hmm ... an idea ... post some images in conjunction with ... might be the appropiate bait to attract a more, let's say, informed audience. I tend to think that some cultural interest goes hand in hand with a degree of intellect ... if it isn't there innately, then by osmosis.
Certainly a more challenging and interesting audience at the bare minimum.
I saw that you posted and was saving this one.
Now that ... that, is why you should resurrect it and continue. And in particular, have some fun with the pedestrians while you are at.
Hmm ... an idea ... post some images in conjunction with ... might be the appropiate bait to attract a more, let's say, informed audience. I tend to think that some cultural interest goes hand in hand with a degree of intellect ... if it isn't there innately, then by osmosis.
Certainly a more challenging and interesting audience at the bare minimum.
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"Sometimes me think what is love, and then me think love is what last cookie is for. Me give up the last cookie for you." - Cookie Monster
I'm interesting! Kinda... except I have no idea what you're talking about...
I'm going to go sit in my garden and watch the bats fly around me. I'm a bat magnet.
No, wait, it's completely dark, I won't be able to see them.
I'm going to go sit in my garden and watch the bats fly around me. I'm a bat magnet.
No, wait, it's completely dark, I won't be able to see them.
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I wish I was a glow worm, a glow worm's never glum. How can you be gloomy when the sun shines out your bum? *runs off into distance giggling*
" ... if your happy and you know it clap your hands ... "
*Claps feet together*
*Claps feet together*
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What's your opinion on this? Will put up a link for a petition when the school stops blocking every other site.