Mac here: 1 MacBook, 1 g5 and in the market for a mini..... Do have one slowly dying extremely old re-furbed Dell desktop which isn't good for much.....
Can we say ‘bitter & twisted shrew’? What’s the matter? Missed out on the goodie bags on the way of the briefing? Another example of why environmentalist will never be happy – they berate Apple for not being green enough so Apple respond relatively quickly with new eco friendlier products then get berated for bringing out product updates too quickly by the same people asking for them. Quelle surprise.
Ok well I use a total of 5 pcs one being my own and other being family members in the house that all have photoshop cs2 and mine with cs3 i use theirs for when im transfering stuff from home and school (school uses cs2) so that puts it at
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I will soon be the proud owner of a Super MiniMac... (bout time I replaced that broken down Dell....) :0) Can we count it now? Please? It'll be here next week!
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I have a pc but want to buy a Macbook pro for uni next year. Im doing design, but want to game a bit as well wich isnt much of a problem looking at how flexible macs can be now. However, i'd still like to know just why macs are concidered so much better for graphics and designing. There are a lot of arguments about pc vs. mac, but what really sets the mac appart from the pc in terms of design?
primarily most commercial design companies use macs as they and the software used on them (Adobe) is based around postscript and all commercial output devices run on postscript too so they are already natively set up for the correct colour management languages without having to rely on patches to their OS. The Creative suite on OSX offers a very high degree of integration too and the mac environment allows for easy cross platform transfer - again another weakness in windows. Others would probably disagree but I have always found OSX to be far more stable than windows and requires reinstallation only a fraction of the times it does with Microsoft. Apple traditionally also support the education market very strongly offering discounts on hardware and very big discounts on software to students. Oh and they look a lot cooler too – both inside and out ;-)
**EDIT** there is a degree of history involved too to explain the predominance in the design and prepress market. When Apple’s overtook the proprietary systems such as Scitex, Barco, Contex etc – there was nothing on the PC market that cold even come close to matching them for power. Only Silicon Graphics and SUN offered UNIX boxes that could do the same things faster but they were prohibitively expensive. To a degree, the same is still true today. MacPro’s are still the weapon of choice for prepress houses as there is little or nothing off the shelf that can match them. There will always be someone who will pop up and spout off that they could build a PC faster than one and perhaps they could but that isn’t what the commercial market looks for i.e. speed, reliability, support etc.
Well – I used IRIX on Silicon Graphics that was by far the coolest OS at the time - easily more fun than the Mac but yes, that was the exception to the rule. Other systems like Solaris or even NeXT were joyless in the extreme :-)
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Somewhat unsurprisingly, AT&T as well as Apple have now been smacked with several class action suits from disgruntled idiots who unlocked their phones (breaking the sales contract in the process) and then updated them only to find – as promised – their phones were now inoperable. The plaintiffs seemingly oblivious to the fact that they were (a) warned this would happen if the breached the sales agreement and (b) they have already made themselves liable in the first place. Hopefully, Apple’s legal team will hand out a beatchslapping of a magnitude last seen when they knocked Paul McCartney of his gold plated soapbox.
even though they had already offered buyers a rebate for the difference - what is it with idiots litigating against big companies using them as cash cows as if they are actually owed anything.
The new OSX – Leopard (10.5) – is available for preorder for delivery next week. Full versions cost $129 for a single license or $199 for a five-license pack or in other words – more than 300% cheaper than the equivalent Windoze product :-)
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anybody ever noticed a mac with the handle on the back? no? me neither. on the top maybe, but on the back - not so much. I think they were supposed to be some mystical invention to allow you to carry it or some such witchcraft.
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Well, Leopard arrived at 9am this morning as promised, ensconced in its surprisingly tiny holographic board box. Sadly, I will be too inebriated/hung over for the next 48 hours to do anything with it. Purchased a new fast Barracuda drive so I can use my old one as the Time Machine drive.
OK a note of caution for Mac users upgrading to Leopard – I checked on Adobe’s site yesterday and they do not guarantee that any of their products prior to the CS3 release will function correctly on Leopard. They say they are not going to remedy that either and so in effect have ceased to offer support on CS2 or below. I guess this is just a larger extension of their policy of forcing upgrades on people that started with Camera RAW updates.
CS3 is already available although apparently only certain elements of it work on Leopard correctly – other apps in it such as Acrobat are not functioning or crashing. There’s a rather nasty response from an Adobe bod on one of their support forums to a perfectly innocent question from a CS2 user querying why Adobe haven’t ensured CS2 will be compatible with 10.5. His response which speaks volumes about their corporate attitude was:
‘Why should we be expected to support a 2 year old product on an operating system released yesterday?’
The obvious answers to which would be:
Because it’s a hideously expensive product that purchasers could reasonably expect to have a longer life span than 18-24 months.
You have had core developer Leopard seeds since early spring to make sure that it would be compatible and patch it if it had any issues.
Whilst you still have dominance in the commercial market, hobbyist users have far cheaper and more accessible options now so you run the risk of alienating a large potential market sector by aggressively overpricing and upgrading without offering any reasonable level of support.
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I can't comment on the pure rendering power of either of them because i don't know. I choose PC though and here is why:
Upgradeability, I can go online and pick out all of my components from many brands and build my own PC to my liking and easily upgrade any component.
They are cheap, Apple is notorious for overpricing things, I guess it's the designer factor but im not into he frills.
Software avalibility, most of the worlds software is native to Windows or windows compatible, that means anything I want I can have. Macs are very limited depending on the software you are looking for, not so much in the cgi industry but elsewhere.
Tomorrow I could go out and buy a new cpu drop it in and go, or mount a large heatsink to it and overclock it to get max perfomance. I have used the Apple OS and I was not like wow over it. None of it seemed that great, it is the same thing as windows only with different names, and sorting. Macs are nearly free of viruses and spyware but that is only because they are the minority and there is not as much gain involved. If Mac was the industry leader it would be plauged with the same thing. Again we really have no idea how secure the OS really is because it is not "tested" by nearly as many hackers as a Windows box.
When it comes down to it, it is really what you started with and what you like. In the end they both achieve the same thing...
The whole deal with viruses is that Mac is based on BSD/UNIX, which is used by a majority of web servers. I'd say that in that respect Mac does have better security.
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I use a PC. It does everything I want. I'm a photographer. I don't need to do a lot of post-production if I shoot the photo right to start with. Given how often I have to upgrade my systems (every three years or so) I'm not about to sink the big bucks that Macs cost.
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No, Macs run absolutely EVERYTHING, From all games that pc has to the stupid windows BSOD. Macs run all operating systems, at the same time. Gaming on the mac is better because you have all games that pc has and mac games and Linux games.
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