I'm going to attempt to sell some of my art as prints there. Has anyone here had success using Deviant Art? They work like Cafe Press, except their primary market is art and not T-shirts.

In my own personal experience, I've not had a whole lot of luck selling my fractals, but that's just me. Somebody else might do a lot better. So give it a try ! :hug:

I've not yet tried to sell from my Deviant account, but good luck.

you could also check into ... Le Bubble du Rouge


they aren't about the downloading (one large thumbnail)

I haven't heard of many selling at DA you should try the linky that baby big ears put up.. it's pretty good there

Here's another choice...
personally, I like the Quality of work here. And, I like it better than Cafe press. Personally.

It's where I have some of my Images for sale, in High Quality...mega size. Ya don't really make much on the sale of a print, but....Honestly? You're not gonna make much selling on ANY site like this anyway.

Zazzle.com
My Sales page

I don't think the site really makes much difference. The only way you are going to make a decent amount of sales is (as with any business) if you are able to generate a good flow of genuine potential customers. So you have to think about some way of promoting your "wares"... that's probably more important than the site you use... however red bubble is free whereas DA has an ongoing fee, so I would tend to use them (or you can use both, if you want...)

a while back (6 mos?, a year?) .. DevArt opened print sales to the masses, free of charge .. they pimp the service with each upload, and tell you the size(s) that could be offered from the size you are submitting

but .. you have no control of price, it's a set schedule, I believe ... and from my cynical, limited perusal of it, it is weighted towards DevArt (natch)

you have the option of buying a "premium" print account .. thereby gaining control of prices and possibly a few other perks

funny thing is .. the previous "print" accounts were "lifetime" for $25 ... now it's an annual fee in that area


the supposed benefit of DevArt's service is that they actually "approve" your upload (ala jeweler's loupe) .. a psuedo-signing off on the quality of the upload as being a primo print candidate ... this upholds the quality of the service as a whole .. rather than have lil' billy sell a bad print, and thus souring a block of word-of-mouth listenees on the prospect of buying again

If I were to sell a print elsewhere I would not know, for sure, what the customer was getting, quality wise, without buying a sample of each image I made available ... I'm not talking about quality of their printing service, but instead, the quality of my art transfered to the paper ..

I create at 3200x2400 for a final upload at 1600x1200 .. this is worked into my thinking .. detail, grain, oddities, etc get reduced and smoothed in the reduction process .... any print offering would have to be submitted at the full creation size AND\OR bigger

this, and other reasons are why I have never made that jump

If you want to sell the only way to do it is get up and hit all the gift stores, interior decorators, cafes, markets etc..

dA is so inondated by posts it's hard to get noticed...let alone market your artwork there...Good luck anyway...

Just an update...

I had someone actual request one of my Digital images be available as a print!
I'm currently reading the Terms and conditions carefully..so we'll see :)

In fact..while I am looking into it...

PRINT PROGRAM

If you wish to submit certain kinds of Artist Materials, known as "Artwork" (defined below), to the deviantART Site for inclusion in the Print Program as part of the deviantART Service, you need to enter into this Print Program Agreement ("Agreement"). Any individual or entity that elects to use the Print Program must accept without change the terms of this Agreement and the deviantART Terms of Service and Submission Policy which are incorporated into and form a part of the Agreement. BY CLICKING THE "SUBMIT PRINT" BUTTON, YOU AGREE THAT YOU ARE BOUND BY ALL TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT.

1. Eligibility. The Print Program is a Service of deviantART that allows you to sell certain types of Artist Materials through the deviantART Shop. At this time, only Artist Materials in the form of Digital Art, Traditional Art, Wallpapers, Photography or Literature are considered "Artwork" and are eligible for inclusion in the Print Program. You may only submit Artwork for inclusion in the Print Program if you are the sole author of the Artwork and you hold all intellectual property rights in the Artwork. In addition to sales in the form of traditional prints and postcards, your Artwork may also be sold in the form of printed magnets, coffee mugs, calendars and other products at your election. Only registered members of deviantART that have accepted the Submission Policy may participate in the Print Program. At this moment there are two forms of the Print program, the Standard Print Program and the Premium Subscription Print Account both of which are further defined in the rest of this Agreement.
2. Service Fee. If you elect to participate in the Standard Print Program there is no fee. However, this free version of the Print Program offers a limited number of options, with reduced profit to you, as described below. If you elect to obtain a Premium Subscription Print Account, you agree to pay deviantART an annual fee of 24.95. At the end of the yearly subscription, your account will automatically change to a Standard Print Account if the annual renewal fee is not paid. A refund of the annual fee for the Premium Subscription Print Account will be available only during the first ten (10) days after payment. All members of deviantART enrolled in the deviantART print program as of November 21, 2006 will automatically receive a Premium Subscription Print Account without payment of an annual fee for the life of the account that qualifies.
3. Pricing.
Standard Print Program. At the time you submit Artwork for inclusion in the Standard Print Program, deviantART will display the retail sales price for your Artwork and the portion of that amount that would be paid to you for each sale, known as the "Artist Share."
Premium Subscription Print Account. Unless you specify a different retail sales price, your Artwork will be made available for sale on the deviantART Shop at the Default Retail Prices posted here. The Default Retail Price reflects the price that will be paid by the purchaser of your Artwork to deviantART for the print.. You will have an opportunity when posting your Artwork with a Premium Subscription Print Account to select the sales price for each configuration of a print so long as that price exceeds the Base Prices posted here. deviantART reserves the right to change the Base Prices and the Default Retail Prices at any time in its sole discretion and without prior notice. DeviantART will notify you of changes to the Base Prices and the Default Retail Prices by an on-site "Hot Topic" news posting accompanied by changes in the posted prices here. Except for pending orders for your Artwork, participants in the Print Program with a Premium Subscription Print Account may always revise the sales prices for your Artwork.
4. Artist Share.
Standard Print Program. deviantART will pay you the Artist Share designated by deviantART, as described in Section 3, for the final sale of Artwork through the Standard Print Program. It is your responsibility to review the sales price and the Artist Share before finalizing your submission of Artwork for the purposes of the Standard Print Program. By submitting your Artwork for inclusion in the Standard Print Program, you agree to accept the Artist Share designated by deviantART for each sale of your Artwork as your only compensation for each such sale.
Premium Subscription Print Account. For the final sale of Artwork by holders of a Premium Subscription Print Account., deviantART will pay you an Artist Share equal to 50% of the difference between the sales price actually received by deviantART and the Base Price. By way of example only, if the Base Price is $14.00 and you elect to set a retail sales price of $20.00 for your Artwork, Deviant Art will pay you 50% of the excess over the Base Price -- that is, $3.00 (which is one-half of the $6.00 in excess of the Base Price). The Base Prices are posted here. If you do not specify a different retail sales price for your Artwork, deviantART will use the Default Retail Price and your Artist Share will be 50% of the difference between the Default Retail Price when actually received by deviantART and the Base Price. However the Artist Share shall not include any amounts received by deviantART from the purchaser for taxes, duties, shipping, insurance or handling. It is your responsibility to review the retail sales price, the Base Prices and the resulting Artist Share before finalizing your submission of Artwork for the purposes of the Premium Subscription Print Account. . By submitting your Artwork for inclusion in the Premium Print Program, you agree to accept the Artist Share for each sale of your Artwork as your only compensation for each such sale. If and when you remain in the Print Program but do not continue as a Premium Subscription Print Account. your Artwork will be sold on the basis of the Standard Print Program.
5. Payments. deviantART will account to you your Artist Share on a quarterly basis, thirty (30) days after the close of each calendar quarter. If your Artist Share exceeds $20.00 for the quarter, deviantART will issue a payment accompanying the accounting. Unpaid balances will be carried forward until such time as the aggregate Artist Share payable exceeds $20.00. Standard Print Program participants will be paid only through a PayPal account. If you participate in a Premium Subscription Print Account. in addition to receiving payments through Paypal, you will be offered the option to receive payment by check after deviantART has received appropriate identification information from you as requested when you sign-up for your Premium Subscription Print Account.
6. deviantDOLLARS. At any time, you may elect to use part or all of your outstanding accumulated Artist Share as deviantDOLLARS credits for the purchase of certain items on deviantART. Using this option you can access as deviantDOLLARS the amounts otherwise payable under Section 5 as your Artist Share or to access as deviantDOLLARS your Artist Share posted to your account following confirmed sales under either the Standard Print Program or a Premium Subscription Print Account. The use of deviantDOLLARS is subject to the restrictions contained in the deviantART Terms of Service.
7. Approvals. Before Artwork may be purchased through the deviantART Shop, all Artwork must be approved for sale by deviantART. Factors affecting approval include, but may not be limited to, image aspect ratio, quality, resolution, bleed edge, and whether the Artwork complies with deviantART"s policies regarding the submission of Artist Materials, generally, as set forth in the Submission Policy and the requirements for submission of Artwork as set forth in this Agreement. Although deviantART has the right to include your Artwork in the Print Program, deviantART does not have the obligation to do so. While deviantART is not responsible for the content of your Artwork, deviantART may, in its sole discretion and for any reason, refuse the Artwork, refuse to fulfill orders for such Artwork, or remove Artwork from the Print Program at any time. For general information on submitting Artwork for inclusion in the Print Program, please refer to the FAQ. Premium Subscription Print Account. If Artwork is submitted with a Premium Subscription Print Account., deviantART will use commercially reasonable efforts to approve or reject such Artwork within one business day, provided that such Artwork is submitted during deviantART"s normal business hours. Standard Print Program. deviantART will not review Artwork submitted for inclusion in the Standard Print Program until there is an attempt to purchase the Artwork through the deviantART Shop. deviantART will use commercially reasonable efforts to approve or reject such Artwork within one business day after such an attempt, provided that the attempt to purchase such Artwork occurs during deviantART"s normal business hours. If the Artwork is rejected, you and the purchaser will be notified and the transaction will not be completed.
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If it was me.. I would get it printed myself, put my own price on it and mail it to them.. You don't get much out of selling stuff on DA..

No you don't..but for me living in the UK this is more viable for the moment.
I cannot afford to print quality images and other items like mouse mats etc and ship them to the U.S

I'm hoping this is a start and I can find an outlet in the UK.

Bonnie, try smugmug.com. their pro account is $150 a year, but you keep far much more of the selling price, have your own site, url, etc, and set your price.

http://smugmug.com/pro/

Thanks :)
I'll check it out.

I just got the confirmation I was seeking. they also offer right-click protection (something mentioned for this site...grumble grumble) and watermarking. this way, the dough flows in your pocket, not some dweeb on Flickr or Photobucket, etc.

It looks like a very nice, professional site I must say..I've bookmarked it.
Though for now..I need to build up he money to be able to afford the site.

If we had right-click protection on this site, it would defeat the purpose of using the images for desktop backgrounds.

I shouldn't have even brought it up. I know the site's for sharing. I had, at the time, made a pretty detailed presentation. Let's let it stay there.

I will NOT post ANYTHING on dA...

It's not so much about the goth, gore, animae copies, light porn, celebs, AND rips over there that all goes through censoring here...

It's not even about the dysfunctional community, and how you get little or no responses, unless you post questionable material...

I stopped posting on dA, simply because of the barriage of email requests (and supplied images...usually nudity and/or porn) I received, asking me to "modify" (through Photoshop skills) to fit warped little Deviant imaginations...I simply told these nutcases either to buzz off, or settle upon a dollar amount for services rendered...They left, and I left shortly thereafter...

I don't have great responses but I do have a small following of watchers there.
I never get asked to modify..the only request I had was to put one piece in the shop.

I am always unsure whether to keep posting..I don't post full size, I use the water marks etc

I find Red Bubble a good place, nicely set out and i've sold a few things there..

Cool, I'll check that out.
What's your username there in case I sign up?

Just a note for anyone still wondering if they should get a DA print account... about a month ago I tried to start uploading a new series of photos to the DA server from which I can then select them for printing. The only other way to do it is upload them one at a time in a similar method that one uses here on caedes, except the files have to be much larger so it takes much longer and is very inconvenient. Despite having uploaded all the files to the server successfully they were not appearing on my DA account... I emailed their "customer support" section and asked them to look into it which they promised they would (twice)... to date I ahve heard nothing, not that I expected to.

I also posted a question about their advertising on the appropriate discussion board... despite the DA staff member coming onto the board and answering a question that was posted after mine... and despite my asking the question again immidiatly after she had done this... I was completely ignored. I'd hate to be paying an ANNUAL fee for "service" like that.

Glad I never paid anything to DA.

I have set up a Red Bubble account and am uploading some of (I hope) my better works for sale and some just to host there.
:)

Looks to me like DA arrange for someone to request a print of an image to tempt you into going pro. Funny how the person who requested a print was made available of one of my images never contacted me again or requested a print once I made it available.

I never went pro.

'tis easy to covet that which thine can not have .. then, whence it becomes available to thee, one discovers a spendthrift gene in ones family tree, that one merrily overlooked prior ... damn, that genealogy website! I curse thee

~~shakespeare
(the chronicles of a would-be art fancier)

Why post/sell on dA? Eventually they'll wind up here...dA is fast becoming an unmanagable monster...They are getting very sponsor-based anti-community oriented over there...Takes heap big money to maintain and constantly expand a website the size of dA, and only big-time rating based commercial sponsorship (and NOT individual donations) can curb that Deviant appetite, and money talks...Attracting YOUTH veiwership means clicking links to ads and offers and using Mommy and Daddy's credit/debit #'s to make foolish youthful Deviant purchases...resulting in positive retail cash flow...It's all about the money...money...money...

On the tail of that thought...you might be better off with Cafe Press...to market your artistic endeavours...

I put a piece up on DA but only because I wanted a print for myself and they have some good print prices compared to my local options. The print I recieved was of good quality and condition.
I don't expect to ever sell anything there just because of the huge number of people on there the chances of a buyer seeing my stuff is 1/2000.

A bit less than that probably... last time I checked the number of images had just passed 50 million.