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I think the same effect could be made with the standard liscence if the downloader simply asked permission from the author no? Or are you saying that with the all rights reserved liscence its not possible to allow a user to modify share your work with you. A bit confused, right now it seems redundant.
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Creative Commons is becoming a widespread and well understood way of distributing work on the internet. With a proprietary license like the current one, yes you can ask for the author's permission, but think more outside the boundaries of Caedes.net members -- what if I want to use someone's image on a web site or something. Right now, the caedes.net copyright page is a sort of a broad statement saying that you only have the right to put it on your desktop, which is probably what most people want.
But what I'd like to do is to give away all my images under creative commons, under the license I choose, so people can do whatever I say I allow them to do. It's more customizable.
The other thing is the legal issue. The creative commons licenses are written by professional lawyers, and they would stand up in court. I'm not so sure about Caedes' copyright. But of course, this doesn't really matter because we're not about to take anyone to court. But if you found one of your images used in a Nike billboard, what would you do? (first, I would drive by it and show all my friends). But you might want to take them to court for violating your copyright. I don't know if that would be very smart, but it was just an example.
The general idea is that it makes it easier for people to see what they can and cannot do with the work. If you don't want anyone to do anything with it but use it as a desktop, then by all means, "All Rights Reserved" it and make people ask you for permission, and this is absolutely possible. All Rights Reserved doesn't mean you can't allow people to modify your work. But I would like to allow people more rights without the need to ask for them, so I'd like a CC license instead, and I think it'd be cool if it were integrated into Caedes. (Otherwise, maybe I'll start putting it in my descriptions).
Seriously, I think Creative Commons is a really cool idea and I'm trying to spread it around, and it dawned on me that Caedes is the perfect place for it.
But what I'd like to do is to give away all my images under creative commons, under the license I choose, so people can do whatever I say I allow them to do. It's more customizable.
The other thing is the legal issue. The creative commons licenses are written by professional lawyers, and they would stand up in court. I'm not so sure about Caedes' copyright. But of course, this doesn't really matter because we're not about to take anyone to court. But if you found one of your images used in a Nike billboard, what would you do? (first, I would drive by it and show all my friends). But you might want to take them to court for violating your copyright. I don't know if that would be very smart, but it was just an example.
The general idea is that it makes it easier for people to see what they can and cannot do with the work. If you don't want anyone to do anything with it but use it as a desktop, then by all means, "All Rights Reserved" it and make people ask you for permission, and this is absolutely possible. All Rights Reserved doesn't mean you can't allow people to modify your work. But I would like to allow people more rights without the need to ask for them, so I'd like a CC license instead, and I think it'd be cool if it were integrated into Caedes. (Otherwise, maybe I'll start putting it in my descriptions).
Seriously, I think Creative Commons is a really cool idea and I'm trying to spread it around, and it dawned on me that Caedes is the perfect place for it.
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Fiat Lux. | Mozilla Firefox - Take Back the Web
it seems the customizability of CC would be it's downfall with few set guidelines no one knows exactly what to expect license-wise without reading the license itself(which few will choose to do; especially if they deem it not that important which it may or may not be).
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-->"When it is time to die, let us not discover that we never lived."
--Henry David Thoreau
This certainly sounds do-able. One point though: the caedes.net copyright statement isn't a licence because it doesn't grant any rights that aren't covered by default copyright law, so it doesn't need to be perfect legal-jargon wise. It is just reminding people what copyright law says about use of the images. It would be pretty easy to add a field to the upload page which would allow (optional) selection of a CC licence. We could then link to that licence from the image's Infopage.
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Sorry for asking, but in English, what is the difference? Which rights are referred to from "all rights reserved" or some rights reserved"?
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-to live between the stones and walk in His dust, this is my task-
It's all just legal mumbo-jumbo basically. It all should make no difference to most people. But to us nerds, it's a breakthrough in being able to share things legally.
In better words, the difference is that the user gets more rights. And if the artist wants that, then I think it'd be cool if they could choose a CC licence.
In response to Brett, there are icons associated with the licenses. All Caedes would have to do is display a "This image is licensed under a Creative Commons license." plus the two or three icons which describe exactly what rights the artist chose. Example:
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons License.
Click that and you'll be directed to a "Commons Deed", which is about the most understandable legal document you will ever read. It says exactly what the license is in plain english.
It is true that people will most likely be confused about this at first -- few people have heard about it. But once they see the commons deed and the front page of the cc website, I think most people will understand and appreciate it.
In better words, the difference is that the user gets more rights. And if the artist wants that, then I think it'd be cool if they could choose a CC licence.
In response to Brett, there are icons associated with the licenses. All Caedes would have to do is display a "This image is licensed under a Creative Commons license." plus the two or three icons which describe exactly what rights the artist chose. Example:
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons License.
Click that and you'll be directed to a "Commons Deed", which is about the most understandable legal document you will ever read. It says exactly what the license is in plain english.
It is true that people will most likely be confused about this at first -- few people have heard about it. But once they see the commons deed and the front page of the cc website, I think most people will understand and appreciate it.
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And "Which rights are referred to from "all rights reserved" or some rights reserved"?"
Generally, this is the right to copy, use, modify, redistribute, or redistribute a modified version of the image (and more). Creative commons allows the artist to mix and match and then presents it in a way that the user can just look at and know right away what's allowed and what's not.
Generally, this is the right to copy, use, modify, redistribute, or redistribute a modified version of the image (and more). Creative commons allows the artist to mix and match and then presents it in a way that the user can just look at and know right away what's allowed and what's not.
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You are right, that was VERY clear. I am not sure what the difference si, but if it benefits...
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For example, if I wanted to allow people to download and share my image, modify it if they want to but only if they give me credit AND share it under the same license, and not for commercial use, I would use a CC "Attribution-ShareAlike-NoCommercial" license. This allows flexible use of my images. And it's not like my desktops are worth any money anyway, I just want to share them with people, and this is the perfect way to do it for me. I think that if people learned about CC, others would also like to do the same.
The CC licenses are so diverse that no matter how many or how few rights you want people to have, there's a license for that. The common thread is that you want to share your work with the world, and let people know what they can do with it in an easy-to-understand straightforward "no fine print" way.
So, check out the Creative Commons site, try making a couple custom licenses of your own, and see if this is something you'd like to see as an option on this site. What do you think?