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question about cameras
biggerd
09/25/03 6:31 PM GMT
i really love this site and would love to participate. i think i found a new hobby. the problem: no digital camera. i must admit, i'm pretty naive when comes to those things. any suggestions on a particular type of camera i should get. i'm a college student and don't have lots of money, so something relatively inexpensive would be better. i would love some feedback from you all. your stuff is awesome. thanks
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Since you're in college... my university lets students check out digital cameras and video cameras from the library. I recently used the still camera to take some photos of a trumpet I'm selling on Ebay. I'd check into that before buying a camera yourself.
The main reason I've not pruchased a digital camera is that they devalue much faster that eg. trumpets. I see no problem spending $2000 on a trumpet that i know I can resell at any time for at least 90% of that, but in a few years a modern digi camera will be worth less than a doorstop.
The main reason I've not pruchased a digital camera is that they devalue much faster that eg. trumpets. I see no problem spending $2000 on a trumpet that i know I can resell at any time for at least 90% of that, but in a few years a modern digi camera will be worth less than a doorstop.
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-caedes
caedes: that's a point of view...
biggerd: For someone that wants to get involved in the numeric photo and doesn't have a lot of money, I propose to buy a camera of 2 MP, with an optic zoom 3x. You will find some for ± 150 $
But to propose good pictures, you must also have (you or a friend of you) a computer with a software like Photoshop or PaintShopPro to modify and to improve your picture before upload it.
Does it suit you? :°)
biggerd: For someone that wants to get involved in the numeric photo and doesn't have a lot of money, I propose to buy a camera of 2 MP, with an optic zoom 3x. You will find some for ± 150 $
But to propose good pictures, you must also have (you or a friend of you) a computer with a software like Photoshop or PaintShopPro to modify and to improve your picture before upload it.
Does it suit you? :°)
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"Violence is the last resort of the incompetent" (I. Asimov)
The only thing I could add to what you've already been told here -- should you decide to buy a camera, be sure to check out the make and model on eBay. There are some great deals to be had. Good luck.
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hey, well i use the Canon Powershot S200 for mine. It was only $300 and u can get incredible pictures with it. just my suggestion, buts thats all i can say, cuz thats the only camera i know about =) good luck
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-tbhockey
My problem is that I'd want at least 3 MP with a good macro focus and/or the ability to switch lenses. =(
The Canon Powershot G3 looks pretty sweet though (~$500). ;-)
The Canon Powershot G3 looks pretty sweet though (~$500). ;-)
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-caedes
thankyou all for your comments/suggestions. they are very helpful.
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My next will be an Olympus Stylus 400, small, metal, weatherproof, and 4MP. I just need the $400 to get it. *Starts looking under rocks for lose change*
Almost everything I've taken on the site has been with a 2MP with 3x optical zoom (as Pierre mentioned above). Not beefy anymore, but sometimes it helps you to try to get an eye for catching better shots if you know you're going to want the full frame.
If it's something you've never done and cash is tight, please, please, borrow one from someone or something before spending this kind of cash. Even if you can get an inexpensive camera, you might need a bigger memory card or decent rechargeable batteries. Research stuff online. Check out bestbuy.com or circuitcity or whatever, get a price range, pick a few models that you think you can afford. Then look for reviews online, see what others are saying. Narrow it to one or 2. Check Ebay if you want. If you buy from a store, pick them up, and try as many functions as you can before the employees get upset. I went into Circuit City with Olympus or Sony in mind, and found that the Sony I was looking at had the lens in a weird place, where my hand wanted to be, so it would have been cumbersome. I went home with an Olympus and have been happy with it for almost a year now.
Almost everything I've taken on the site has been with a 2MP with 3x optical zoom (as Pierre mentioned above). Not beefy anymore, but sometimes it helps you to try to get an eye for catching better shots if you know you're going to want the full frame.
If it's something you've never done and cash is tight, please, please, borrow one from someone or something before spending this kind of cash. Even if you can get an inexpensive camera, you might need a bigger memory card or decent rechargeable batteries. Research stuff online. Check out bestbuy.com or circuitcity or whatever, get a price range, pick a few models that you think you can afford. Then look for reviews online, see what others are saying. Narrow it to one or 2. Check Ebay if you want. If you buy from a store, pick them up, and try as many functions as you can before the employees get upset. I went into Circuit City with Olympus or Sony in mind, and found that the Sony I was looking at had the lens in a weird place, where my hand wanted to be, so it would have been cumbersome. I went home with an Olympus and have been happy with it for almost a year now.
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A nice cheap camera with a lot of features is the Canon Powershot (there are different models for different users) One of my cameras is a powershot A40, and it has a place to add lenses, which has been really helpful for macro shooting. As was mentioned a couple times, try to get something with an optical zoom.
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"The sky is not the limit . . . the ground is."
very very interesting..thats for the heads up pierr (sorry i spelled your name wrong) =)
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i have come to believe that the whole world is nothing but an enigma.a harmless enigma that is made terrible by are own mad attempt to find is underlieing truths.
Good question, I probably talk about them too much. About 2 years ago, I got a "Stylus Epic Zoom 115" (35mm) which I bought specifically because it was small and "weatherproof". A camera does no good if you're afraid to get it out, and I figured that while I still would want to be careful with it in driving rain, it would have no problem being pocketed and carried just about anywhere, specifically hiking and skiing.
When I was looking for a digital, I went through basically the steps I mentioned above, in my previous post. I set a price, (~$300 a year ago, cheap, but capable), and compared the available models. As I said, I picked some models from online reviews to compare in-store. I found the Canon Elph's buttons too small, the Sony's lens to be in the wrong place, but nothing that I didn't like about the Olympus. Small, but not too small to use.
One thing that I really like about most Olympus models is the "clamshell" lens cover, which protects the lens well. Most P&S cameras just have some sort of 'iris' of thin plastic to cover the lens, and I've had them (Nikon and Minolta), over time, stop opening fully, so that you have to make sure that it's open, or stick your finger in to open it. Half the time, you end up touching the lens itself. I've also had a (really cheap Kodak) camera with no lens cover, and when it was put in my bag, the lens shattered on something.
On the other hand, the thing I decided I don't like about my digital is that it is almost *too* point&shoot. The only real shooting controls are some preset "condition" functions, and some exposure controls. I think this is more a funtion of it being a cheaper camera, but if you want slr-style control, the model I have (D-520 Zoom) doesn't do it.
I'm excited about the Digital Stylus 400, because it brings the weatherproofness to a digital. If you look at the models claimed weatherproof, it's really very cool. Every potential opening has some sort of rubber gasket; the film cover, battery compartment, even the lens barrel sections, and they feel well-built. It won't necessarily keep the water out if you drop it in a lake, but rain shouldn't be a problem.
I don't mean to go against anyone's choices in saying the above; my mother loves Minolta, my uncle uses Canon. I just happen to be attracted to some of the features of Olympus, which wouldn't be considerations to everyone, and have become loyal to the brand.
When I was looking for a digital, I went through basically the steps I mentioned above, in my previous post. I set a price, (~$300 a year ago, cheap, but capable), and compared the available models. As I said, I picked some models from online reviews to compare in-store. I found the Canon Elph's buttons too small, the Sony's lens to be in the wrong place, but nothing that I didn't like about the Olympus. Small, but not too small to use.
One thing that I really like about most Olympus models is the "clamshell" lens cover, which protects the lens well. Most P&S cameras just have some sort of 'iris' of thin plastic to cover the lens, and I've had them (Nikon and Minolta), over time, stop opening fully, so that you have to make sure that it's open, or stick your finger in to open it. Half the time, you end up touching the lens itself. I've also had a (really cheap Kodak) camera with no lens cover, and when it was put in my bag, the lens shattered on something.
On the other hand, the thing I decided I don't like about my digital is that it is almost *too* point&shoot. The only real shooting controls are some preset "condition" functions, and some exposure controls. I think this is more a funtion of it being a cheaper camera, but if you want slr-style control, the model I have (D-520 Zoom) doesn't do it.
I'm excited about the Digital Stylus 400, because it brings the weatherproofness to a digital. If you look at the models claimed weatherproof, it's really very cool. Every potential opening has some sort of rubber gasket; the film cover, battery compartment, even the lens barrel sections, and they feel well-built. It won't necessarily keep the water out if you drop it in a lake, but rain shouldn't be a problem.
I don't mean to go against anyone's choices in saying the above; my mother loves Minolta, my uncle uses Canon. I just happen to be attracted to some of the features of Olympus, which wouldn't be considerations to everyone, and have become loyal to the brand.
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no offense, but i really dislike olympus...also ive never had actuall experience with a Minolta, but ive heard bad things about them. i HAVE had bad experiences with olympus though..i prefer Canon or Nikon
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-tbhockey
No problem, I've had bad experiences with Nikon, and annoyances with Minolta. Other Minoltas have been great. It happens. If one of my Olympi breaks down, it'll make me reconsider the brand. I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed that nothing goes wrong. :-p
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I just picked up a new Canon Digital Rebel. Still getting use to it and all the settings. I use to have an old 2MP digital camera and decided to upgrade.
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I have a Kyocera S4 they're not very well know but I've been really pleased with the outcome.
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'Those of you who think you know everything are irritating to those of us that do'
I just picked up the digital Rebel also. I've had the Rebel 2000 for a few years and wanted to take advantage of all the lenses and filters I've purchased. Regardless of price, you can't beat the EXIF information stored with digital photography (when was this shot again?) and I can finally avoid the hassel of scanning all of my images - grrr...
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I got mine at a local electronics store for under $900 (body only, with $70.00 coupon).
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i got my digital Rebel for less than 1000 and it is amazing.........
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