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Display Colours and Proper Calibration.

+purmusic
11/04/09 1:09 AM GMT
Some feedback on what is to follow, please. :o)

Ok, here's the deal ... and at it's roots and as mentioned in the header to this discussion thread, monitor display colours and proper calibration.

Feel free to share your thoughts, and perhaps ... that of the make/model of your monitor along with. You know, for comparative purposes and instruction.


Two images, for your consideration, of the same subject matter:

Darryn's; aka dmk photo, titled; "A Blend".

On my monitor, which is a CRT ... perhaps, a tad yellow? Which might be still accurate as what my eyes see and my monitor displays reproduces the colour or colours, of orange juice that I have seen firsthand.


And then, Jan's; aka JQ photo, named (and quite aptly :oP) ... "orange juice".

Maybe a little on the 'red' side? Although, once again, not out of the realm of natural colour range observed. So ...

What say yous?


And by all means, feel free to drop by the artist's galleries for a look see. You won't be disappointed. :o)
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::zunazet
11/04/09 3:48 AM GMT
It is amazing to learn the number of things that effect the perception of color. The lighting in the room, the color of the wall behind your monitor, the retina in your eye. lol.
I am using an Apple iMac (about a year old) that has been calibrated with a hardware monitor calibrator. It is slightly different from the factory color but not all that much.
Contrast and brightness are also just as important as color tint. A photo that looks good on a poorly adjusted monitor will look awful on a monitor that is well adjusted and vice versa.

My old computer had a screen that drastically changed appearance depending on the angle it was viewed at. Not good for getting anything right.

As for "A Blend" it looks just like the orange juice in my fridge. While "orange juice" looks as you say "on the red side" but just the way I would have wanted it to look had I taken the picture.

Getting your monitor adjusted correctly or at least reasonably close is very important when editing art and is helpful for getting the most out of viewing art as well.

This link has been my signature for a while now for just that reason.

DisplayCalibration.com
Calibrate Your Computer Display Or Monitor Online For Optimal Viewing

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+purmusic
11/04/09 5:31 PM GMT
Thanks very much, David ... for your sharing your thoughts and that invaluable link towards the ends of properly calibrating one's display monitor.

Muchly appreciated on all fronts and accounts. :o)
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.Tomeast
11/06/09 12:55 AM GMT
I have a gateway monitor that is a few years old and a new HP monitor , both are wide screens, on separate computers.Although I have both set on auto , I did not make any adjustments , there is quite a difference in the light and dark areas when viewing photos , not so much with the color.I have been running back and forth from one computer to the other with a flash drive making adjustments on my photos before posting.I am so glad to find this calibration display site and will give it a try.
Thank you for posting it.
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.mesmerized
11/06/09 6:07 AM GMT
Hey thanks alot for that great link...I've often wondered if I'm seeing things as they should be or not.
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::allisontaylor
11/06/09 5:28 PM GMT
Yes, thank you both very much! Very good information along with the calibration guide. : )
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::zunazet
11/07/09 6:49 PM GMT
This is an excellent article for a more in-depth look at monitor calibration that includes more detailed calibration images as well.

Monitor Calibration: Who needs it?
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::Hottrockin
11/11/09 11:08 AM GMT
Samsung SyncMaster 915n LCD

CNET Rating;

3/5

CNET Review;

The good: Simple setup; accurate colors; fast pixel-response rate; low price; sturdy.

The bad: Analog signal only; no height adjustment; doesn't swivel or pivot; some red in the grayscales.

The bottom line: Flexible and feature-rich it is not, but the Samsung SyncMaster 915N is a sturdy 19-inch analog LCD with a fast pixel-response rate, bright colors, and a fair price.

Color Calibration via Pantone Huey

On "A Blend" I too get a wee more yellow vibe vs. orange but nothing over the top, some OJ's do come out a little on the pale side.

On "Orange Juice" it comes across perfecto. The dark shade of orange on the rind is a deep, dark orange and to me doesn't push red.
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Why do the pictures come out square when the lens is round??
::allisontaylor
11/12/09 12:39 AM GMT
Thank you David for the additional link/information. I'm saving them all to help "tweak" the view here. A bit frustrating for me, to think I was finally going to see things more clearly to realizing they were not so bad after all... : ) I went from an older crt that came with an older machine after the one that I was currently using died, to a wide screen HP 23". I do enjoy the clear view but tweaking the brightness has been a challenge. A work in progress, I hope!
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::JQ
11/20/09 12:47 AM GMT
... interesting reading this discussion as i think i do have some issues with the callibration of my monitor perhaps.
ive just looked at something i posted yesterday which looked pretty ok on my monitor at home, and ive looked at it on my monitor at work and it looks bloody awful! (to the point where i think UG, im gonna delete it lol. ok, the monitor at work is pretty awful but even so..! for the orange juice, my orange looks pretty orange, although deep orange on my monitor at home, at work its definatly pushing red a lil. as for dmk's shot it looks pretty nice on both monitors actually...! i will experiment with those links when i get home though and see if that makes any difference.
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+purmusic
12/31/11 9:00 PM GMT
~ le bump ~

To start the new year off on the right creative foot. :o)
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::zunazet
01/01/12 1:59 AM GMT
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People aren't going to remember the things you do. They're going to remember how you made people feel. Be kind, gracious, and appreciative. Dan Winters - Photographer.
::coram9
01/01/12 9:20 AM GMT
I prefer David's calibration card myself. I can even see the words on mine.
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+purmusic
01/01/12 5:29 PM GMT
Ya know..

What was driving me crazy, was looking for the words 'white' and 'black' in the calibration tool/image David posted. For the life of me and my eyes.. just couldn't see/find them, and wrote it off due to my monitor under-performing.

Well..

They are indeed.. there.

Although, it took cranking the brightness/contrast AND using the 'highlight' function of my monitor.. before me and my eyes got their bearings.

Now, and at the settings I usually have my monitor set to.. I can see the word 'white', but, not 'black'.

And all bars and gradations are fairly visible, save that of the left-hand side 'black' without cranking things.

... ...

Cool story, bro?
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::zunazet
01/02/12 4:33 AM GMT
Thanks for posting the link to my image Chris. (coram9)

Yes, Cool story Les...

It takes an exceptional monitor tuned exceptionally well to see both the word black and the word white in that image. Even if you can, it does not necessarily indicate your reds greens and blues are properly adjusted. It is valuable of course to know how well the brightness and contrast are doing but there is more to full calibration than that.
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People aren't going to remember the things you do. They're going to remember how you made people feel. Be kind, gracious, and appreciative. Dan Winters - Photographer.
+purmusic
01/02/12 11:51 AM GMT
And thank you for that link above, David. 'Tis brilliant. :o)
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.zunazet
05/30/12 6:18 PM GMT
FACT: 1 out of 255 women and 1 out of 12 men have some form of color vision deficiency.
Take the online color challenge, based on the official FM100 Hue Test by X-Rite.
How well do you see color?

Of course this assumes your monitor is displaying colors properly as well.
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People aren't going to remember the things you do. They're going to remember how you made people feel. Be kind, gracious, and appreciative. Dan Winters - Photographer.
.gonedigital
06/03/12 11:56 PM GMT
I enjoyed playing drag an drop the colours in the correct order David ... good game ....good game!

I've looked at quite a few calibration test cards, and prefer a simple b/w one, apparently for best results you should check your monitor in the dark!

Click here what do you think folks?
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Vote on your future here, and check your monitors calibration here.
+purmusic
06/06/12 5:51 PM GMT
Re: "How well do you see color?"

Score: 4

Ohhh, yeah.. me and my monitor rock and/or rule!


@ Phil:

Did you see David's posted image, namely; "Monitor Adjustment"?
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.gonedigital
06/06/12 10:40 PM GMT
Yeah I did see Davids monitor adjustment Les but I prefer my one as it simpler on the eyes.
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Vote on your future here, and check your monitors calibration here.
+purmusic
06/06/12 10:54 PM GMT
Kind of six of one, half dozen of another, I suppose. Both are good good calibration tools.


What surprised me is that prior to all this stuff.. my monitor's Brightness and Contrast settings were apparently far from ideal. (This, with respect to coming from the factory with their default settings.)

Leads me to think that 'easy on the eyes' was indeed the operative phrasing.

And perhaps, although not ideal initially ... good good enough for most consumer's visual needs.
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.zunazet
06/07/12 1:24 AM GMT
That's a good one Phil. Simple and straight to the point.
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People aren't going to remember the things you do. They're going to remember how you made people feel. Be kind, gracious, and appreciative. Dan Winters - Photographer.
.Tootles
06/07/12 11:17 AM GMT
I find the monitor's brightness when at 'ideal' setting gives me a headache. :-) I tend to turn it a bit lower. Another trick I use (when reading on the internet) is to open the Mac's 'dashboard', as it brings down a grey filter! The most harsh pages are the all-white or mostly-white ones... as soon as I switch to a coloured page, the intensity decreases.
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