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Discussion Board -> Desktop Wallpaper, Art, etc. -> Elimination of C-index Petition
One of the things I've often noticed is that when I upload an image its c-index begins high, then after it moves back in the "new images" its rating begins to fall. If I am unfortunate enough to have my image featured on the front page of the site, its rating falls precipitously. I have had images run into the 90's for votes 1 through 25 or so, then drop into the 70's after five more votes and numerous downloads. This leads me to believe that votes may not accurately reflect an image's popularity.
Now having said that I have also noticed that people on Caedes have stopped posting helpful criticism under my images, but instead only post if they have something nice to say. This means either that my work has no flaws (which I doubt) or that they are afraid to post negative feedback for fear that I will retaliate by "voting down" their images. This is a worrisome trend.
I feel that a couple of things might help: 1) the option of anonymous posting of criticism (this may prove disastrous and start flame wars), and 2) the use of more than one c-index for each image. I like the second option better. If we can see, for example a curve indicating where the votes fell we might be able to see if one person is flaming our stuff. If we could see a number that indicates popularity based upon view-to-download ratio alongside our c-index it would help too. Finally considering the catastrophic effect it has on the c-index of my images I think I don't want any more of mine featured on the website front page.
Hey Caedes, you're not busy right now, are you (heh-heh)?
I'm thinking that if I were asked to go through five bullets for each of the hundred or so images I vote on each week it might begin to occupy an inordinate amount of my time, and I might stop voting. Maybe we could in our profile choose our preferred level of participation - at a c-index level or more detailed? This way if we choose to do so we can get access to a more complex rating system, while the users who don't want to or don't feel qualified to do so can vote on an "I like it" or "I don't like it" basis.
As a professional web-programmer I recognize the complexity of what we're asking of Caedes. Let's be patient, people.
PS. I love your icon, June.
I think that the problem I have here is that I want technically critical input from my fellow-creators but I want more general input from the consumers of my work. Does that make sense? The view-to-download ratio serves pretty well in place of the c-index right now from the consumers, but if we made it possible for fellow contributors to rate our work on a more technical basis we could get more useful input.
Perhaps you could limit the "voting ability" to only those people who upload??
The images should be scored according to Artistic Merit.
Let us start up a petition to make changes to the c-index.!
Many of us have been conditioned through schooling that we tend to get a little sensitive with regards to the c-index as a reflection of the quality of our work as viewed by others.
I think it would be more effective for us to vote and to perhaps select from a list of artistic values on each image. This will help all of us to improve on our work and to see exactly what needs improving. A bullet system to check off would work beautifully rating each value out of 5.
Please tell me what you think of this.
Thank you,
JuneBug