Ok ive been looking into the digital rebel thing for a whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiile, lol. Now I am serious about buying it so here it goes:

Hot or Not

(and please support your answer :)

edit: and also how much better is the 10d over the rebel in any other ways you can think of (price for value, picture quality, etc.)

I am pleased I bought the digital Rebel when I did. At the time it was excellent value for money. The picture quality is the same as the 10D (if you use the same lenses). However time moves on. If I were buying today I would probably look for a used 10D. Canon recently released the 20D and I expect people are keen to sell their 10D to help fund an upgrade to a 20D. You would get the same picture quality in a more rugged camera with a bigger faster buffer and better controls.

Have a look HERE

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In the find field type; 300D vs. 10D

I have had the 300d for a few months now, and its great. the image qaulity is great,
i have the sigma macroapo2 which is great if you get a good version.
i wouldnt upgrade to the 20d until you had some good glass. the 300d with L glass is better than the 20d with cheap stuff.

I will second pom1; I'd rather have good, fast glass than a better body. Since the sensor is the same on the D. Rebel and the 10D, image quality will be similar. (Only differences are things like sharpening algorithms, white balance accuracy, etc.)

but if you care so much about sharpening/whiteballance etc just shoot critical shots in raw, then get a program that can batch process to convert them with whatever settings you want, that are custom to each picture, without worrying about it at the time of shooting. i find with the raw exposure compensation it does quite a nice job, especially towards making it darker, if you dont get the exposure to within about an fstop of the exposure you want.

yes, lenses are way more important than the body.

i got the nikon d70 recently, and love it. i know its a fair bit more than the rebel, but handling is great, the kit lens is worth having, and not a bad deal. obviously if you already have canon glass stick with that, but if you arent planning on going bigtime into photography nikons great, and lenses are probably 200 dollars cheaper for good ones that are similar

ok i think im gonna get the rebel because of the money issue... but do you think canon will soon release a similar dslr within the same price range?

PMA2005 is February 20-23 and is a trade show at which, traditonally, many new models are released. There has been much speculation that there may be a dRebel successor. No one but Canon knows, however. But if you've waited this long, a couple more weeks may be worth waiting, since if something is going to come out, it's more likely to occur then.

ok so lets say they do make a sucessor, what could they possibly do to the camera that will make it that much better?

What could they do? There's always the bigger/better/faster mentality. Most important is the likely significant drop in cost of the current model. Perhaps you should just buy from a vendor with 30-day price-match, so *if* something new comes in and prices plummet, you're covered. You only asked if something new was coming, I only answered with speculation. :)

ok. the 300d has similar firmware as the 10d. i can just get the *upgraded* russian firmware for the 10d. anyone experiment with these to compare the two?

It will not work if you use a different camera's firmware. The 10D's menus, control layout, image processing algorithms, shutter/mirror drive algorithms, etc. differ substantially from those of the Digital Rebel. It's a completely different camera. Plus, firmware other than Canon's own upgrades totally voids the warranty, so if you screw it up doing so, you have a thousand dollar paperweight.

The only thing I really want from the Russian firmware is mirror lockup. I wouldn’t use that very often so decided not to take the risk.

sorry i did not read over my post before posting it. i would get the russian 300d frimware that uses the 300d firmware but chances a byte to un disable the features

You can install the Russian firmware. If you don’t like it you can put the original one back. You get the original one from Canon’s Japanese site.

ok i got the rebel
wish me luck :)

Good luck...I think you will be very happy:-)

what lenses have you got with the rebel? just the 18-55?

yea i dont have the mney for any new glass yet:) but the 18-55 really aint so bad:)