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Should have went to specsavers

::biffobear
10/17/11 12:08 AM GMT
I recently uploaded two pictures of the same

subject..The upload was an attempt to show people,How

different the same image looked using different

processes..If the Mod who deleted it cannot see the

difference between these two pictures,I suggest he gets

a new pair of specs...
Here's the context of the message..
Your recently uploaded image (Wallmarts finest soft

focus) has been rejected by an ImageMod.
One of your recently uploaded images appears to be

either a duplicate of or so similar to another as to be

virtually indistinguishable from it. As this is a violation of

the Code Of Conduct, we must remove one of them. Code

Of Conduct : Once an image has been uploaded to the

site it should not be uploaded again unless substantial

changes have been made to it. These changes should be

enough so that it could be reasonable assumed that the

resulting changed image would receive a better critique

than the previous version.
Both images received Varying critiques.
Both images are so different a blind man on a galloping

horse could see it."virtually indistinguishable",I think

not..They are except for content,Totally different.
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+purmusic
10/17/11 12:35 AM GMT
Comments/'Critiques' on image rejected:

::corngrowth - 17/10/11 6:31

Richie, I've seen both images now, but you didn't make it easy for me to decide which one I prefer. This one has a slight preference for me. Please realize that this is just a matter of taste!

Regards, Cornelius.

::Dunstickin - 17/10/11 7:18

I have to go with the first (Other) one...The softness on this is serene, but the first shows more detail...

Depends on a person's chioce, I s'pose eh!

.ROPnam - 17/10/11 7:51

Great shot. Love the colour and composition. Also that the clarity is high and at hi res we dont see any noise.

Keep it up,
Paul.
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Comments/'Critiques' on image posted:

::corngrowth - 17/10/11 6:30

Richie, I've seen both images now, but you didn't make it easy for me to decide which one I prefer. The other one has a slight preference for me. Please realize that this is just a matter of taste!

Regards, Cornelius.

::jeenie11 - 17/10/11 7:11

I think I like this one better. So now Cornelius and I have made it a tie. Fall is truly here.

.ROPnam - 17/10/11 7:52

Great shot. Love the colour and composition, also that the clarity is great and at hi res you can't see the noise.

Keep it up,
Paul.
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Varying 'critiques'?

I disagree.


As to the image that was rejected..

What post processing did you perform? Exactly?

Gaussian Blur, perhaps?


Not substantial, nor significant enough of a difference to my eyes.

And..

I wear glasses.
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::biffobear
10/17/11 1:02 PM GMT
Obviously those that commented saw a difference..Anyway the whole point wasn't for which one they preferred but to show how different the image looked with a different approach to processing.What does it matter what post processing I used?..Or is that subject to scrutiny also?..Anyway it's down now so that's that..Ps I wear glasses and I can see the difference with and without them.....
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::biffobear
10/17/11 1:17 PM GMT
Why has Comparisons been taken down,It's a totally different image showing the different effects post processing can have..Which was the initial intention...R.
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+animaniactoo
10/17/11 6:21 PM GMT
Richie, I am quoting myself here from another thread.

"*"Once an image has been uploaded to the site it should not be uploaded again unless substantial changes have been made to it. These changes should be enough so that it could be reasonably assumed that the resulting changed image would receive a better critique than the previous version."

fyi, a minor color change, a slightly different view taken from 2 steps to the left, or eliminating a phone pole wire do not count as "substantial" changes. The difference between the 2 images should be drastic, such that they are clearly visible to the naked eye on a single glance, in their thumbnail size."

The reason for this is that most casual users of this site are here to pick up some wallpapers, etc. Those users drive traffic to this site (which is useful in keeping the site alive and kicking), and seeing repetitive images in thumbnail size is generally a turnoff. This site is not solely about the artists here and we need to remember that in our choices of what we present. It's not soley about the casual user either, and so there needs to be a balance.

If you try out 4 different treatments? Pick the one you like the best and upload that. If your goal is to show people how the same shot can look different with different hues/tones/contrast/focus? Compose a tutorial and place it as one image under tutorials.

For these reasons, I am the mod who rejected your second image, because at thumbnail size, there was no distinguishable difference - and thumbnails are going to be what other users of the site see and evaluate when deciding to remain here to keep browsing, or whether they think an image is worth viewing larger.

As such, I stand by my decision, and if you do not agree with it, I ask you to take it up with *caedes via PM or e-mail him @ caedes@caedes.net.

P.S. Fresh glasses, thanks, got em last year. Practically invisible to the naked eye. Or as my sister said "Those are SOOOOO frameless!"
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+tbob
10/17/11 6:39 PM GMT
hes been a member long enough to not only know its against the rule but why it is.good call.
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::biffobear
10/17/11 6:41 PM GMT
I have addressed the problem and have made the neccesary alterations.It should now be visble to anyone,With or without specs..Frameless or not...Even the method used is included...R.
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+tbob
10/17/11 6:45 PM GMT
good deal.
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