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Error of my ways

::cynlee
12/04/11 9:25 PM GMT
I see now that I should not have reworked and cropped an image already in my gallery. What I really should have done was dump my gallery, disappear for three years and then bring back reworked versions of my old shots. That seems to be the way to go as I have seen that it works well for others I apologize for not having reworked my image in another manner more in keeping with the Code.
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kamvedbrat
12/04/11 9:41 PM GMT
Yep! That's what I'm doing.
Only another 835 days to go!
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+animaniactoo
12/04/11 10:12 PM GMT
Sometimes we make a decision to be lenient. That does not mean that the CoC does not still apply. It means that we took something into account - like a long absence where many of the images have not been seen in the past 3 years. As far as I know, nobody has ever been able to reupload their entire gallery, and they are not allowed to only post their old gallery.

Additionally, while images slip through the cracks because we are not omniscient in terms of what is uploaded or said on the site, some people may remember an image and others may not. That also does not mean that the CoC does not apply when we discover a situation and address it. It just means some stuff before has slipped through the cracks.
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+animaniactoo
12/04/11 10:15 PM GMT
As well, please note the previous standard for reworks that has been explained - the differences (beyond cropping) should be clearly visible to the eye in a glance.
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::cynlee
12/04/11 10:32 PM GMT
Well then, let there be equitable leniency for all.
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+animaniactoo
12/04/11 10:37 PM GMT
In the main, we do our best, and the only people that we really look out for are consistent repeat violators.

However, if you ran the stop sign a few other times, or got the guy who was willing to let you off with a warning, that still does not absolve you of complying or paying the penalty when you have been caught and the person is not willing to let you off with a warning.
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::jeenie11
12/04/11 10:51 PM GMT
My problem is that my uploads often have to come down because they look terrible when they go into the Caedes gallery. They seem to lose their color and vibrancy. So I delete them and try again. How does that fit in here.......or does it?
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+animaniactoo
12/04/11 11:00 PM GMT
It sort of does Jeenie, *although* you've gotten a lot of leniency for it because you're deleting right away, not waiting for comments and then re-uploading. I (we) understand that you're struggling with your proofing process, and I can give you some stuff to try on that front if you'd like.
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::cynlee
12/05/11 12:23 AM GMT
You can't compare a reworked image to a previous image if the previous is not on site. I did more to that image in question than just crop it though you prefer to say that I did not. I don't believe I caused any harm to the site by having both images in my gallery. At least, no harm was intended. Sometimes though, it seems that you guys make up some of the rules as we go along.
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+animaniactoo
12/05/11 12:29 AM GMT
I'm sorry that's your impression. Much of this has been discussed repeatedly on these threads, including threads started by mods to remind, or clarify what is meant by specific sections of the CoC.

If necessary, I can link to some of those threads for verification. Otherwise, I hope that it is clear now. This is what the site policy is, and it is what we will enforce, as we notice it.
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+animaniactoo
12/05/11 12:43 AM GMT
Also - please note that I did not say more work was not done to the image, what I said was that the difference was not visible to me, or apparently the person who raised the question. A ton of work can be done, but if it's not visible on this end *at a single glance*, then there is not sufficient difference. That is the benchmark that is applied.
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::cynlee
12/05/11 12:55 AM GMT
Then I will remember when I post a 'rework' in future that my previous posting of that image is nowhere to be found. Then everyone will not have to make those difficult decisions about whether or not my adaptations and post processing are suitably different for their discernment and satisfaction. No rules broken because I have learned how to circumvent them. (Well, at least one of them). How silly! Of course, that is not my intention! How willy nilly and and nit picky these observations and declarations can sometimes be.
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+animaniactoo
12/05/11 1:19 AM GMT
I did not indicate that removing the previous image is what is necessary to allow a rework. Please note that consistent repetitive uploading in this manner, will be a violation of the CoC. If it happens now and then, we generally don't make an issue out of it. As I said above, we really only keep an eye out for consistent repeat violators. Other stuff may or may not make it through. It is still the responsibility of the member to comply with the rules for reuploading a previous work.

I don't believe that I can be any clearer than this, so I have nothing further to say on the subject.
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::cynlee
12/05/11 1:32 AM GMT
But how do you know it's a rework or not if the uploader doesn't say as much?
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+Piner
12/05/11 2:04 AM GMT
First of all when a member edits a previous post of their own it is called a "revision" or "revised".
We have already gone over what constitutes a "Rework".

Deleted images will remain available for a moderator to view for a short period of time. Moderators may also recognize images that they remember, and if they suspect a pattern of abuse they can save deleted images in a moderator-only viewable area and begin keeping track of that person's gallery and uploads.
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::cynlee
12/05/11 2:36 AM GMT
Thank you!
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.J_272004
12/05/11 8:14 AM GMT
That code has been in practice for years.. cos I remember a friend of mine had an image that he reworked, the colours the cropping and a couple of other things done to it and it was rejected there was actually a lot done to it at the time.. so it's not a new thing
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mindmelt
12/05/11 8:19 AM GMT
i had a friend once he died a bitter death
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kamvedbrat
12/05/11 3:26 PM GMT
Only 834 days left now. Whooppee!
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::cynlee
12/05/11 4:39 PM GMT
I often see that we are told that the answers we seek can be found on the threads, but even with the search engine that is provided, it is not always easy to find an answer there because there may be hundreds of comments or dozens of threads. You really can't expect newer members to find all the answers they might have just by searching the threads. Case in point was a new member who asked me to explain a dozen of the different options on the the site. I see that she found the Discussion Board with little difficulty.
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+purmusic
12/05/11 5:17 PM GMT
For the benefit of those trying to find their way around, navigate the site:

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... and some more 'stuff'.

In particular, that of the "Frequently Asked Questions" section.


As well as, link(s) being replicated/displayed in the left-hand menus of any site page. (In particular; "Site Information" is found under "Navigation".)
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+animaniactoo
12/05/11 6:48 PM GMT
Newer members, or ones who have not participated in forum discussions, are not expected to be able to find answers easily via old threads. Although I will say that when I was a new member, I spent some time looking back through old discussions to familiarize myself with the site (once I found the forums that is - I think it took me close to a year... I was a complete newbie.)

What is expected is that once they have received an answer, they accept it and work with it if they are going to continue to participate here. Changes may occur, but they should not be expected to happen immediately, if at all.
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