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*caedes
05/12/05 1:13 AM GMT
Would everyone be so nice as to test this new gallery page for me? It uses some pretty fancy javascript (for me). It is significantly faster than the current gallery because it doesn't have to reload from the server when changing gallery pages.

Just go to a gallery and click on "hyper-mode" near the top of the page.
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scionlord
05/12/05 9:26 PM GMT
ah, now it works on Secure IE
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*caedes
05/12/05 10:16 PM GMT
Updated again. You should now be able to open the images in new windows or tabs.
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stuffnstuff
05/12/05 10:26 PM GMT
It works on what appears to be normal speed here at work, and this, being the oldest computer in the office (next to the copier so I am kept busy for the moment), probably has not the most recent version if IE. It says 6.0, but it is windows 95 or 98 and I highly doubt it has been upgraded. I am not very familiar with the connection speed, so I will try again at home and let you know how snappy it is.
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*caedes
05/12/05 11:06 PM GMT
The speedup is not for the initial load, it is changing between pages and sort methods that is improved. In fact the initial load is actually slower right now since it is not using mod_perl.
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-caedes
DixieNormus
05/12/05 11:18 PM GMT
Way superior in speed to your current galleries. Very nice. Working great with my IE6.
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DMINATOR
05/12/05 11:25 PM GMT
Hmm it even stores the last page I was at :) But resets after restart.
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*caedes
05/12/05 11:35 PM GMT
That's the only way I can get it to work correctly if someone goes to an image's page and then hits the back button.
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-caedes
::June
05/12/05 11:43 PM GMT
Working great for me in IE
JuneBug
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::dreamer100
05/13/05 1:48 AM GMT
Works for me now and man is it slick. Even with five windows open it's still faster than normal.
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::JOHANNA
05/13/05 1:44 PM GMT
Working great for me.
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Carpe diem....
stuffnstuff
05/13/05 8:15 PM GMT
Lightning quick at home with FireFox. Great job!
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-those who hit rock bottom are too concerned with self pity to realize that they are lying on an anvil- Psalm 66:10, Job 10:8
DevilsJohnson_2
05/14/05 4:54 AM GMT
I use firefox and it loaded real fast!
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laurenlouise
05/14/05 7:44 AM GMT
" Updated again. You should now be able to open the images in new windows or tabs. "

Apparently not. Your javascript seems to be forcing the link to open in the existing tab.

I usually open links in new tabs, but that's broken. In the latest Camino nightly, it just loads in the existing tab. In OmniWeb 5.1 it loads in the existing tab AND in a new tab. In Firefox (latest nightly) or Mozilla 1.7.8 it loads in the existing tab and opens a new tab with a 500 Internal Server Error message. I don't have the latest Safari yet. Makes using a tabbed browser kinda pointless...

It is fast, though!
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>you can't stop the signal
kjh000
05/14/05 10:26 AM GMT
Yep, I get that 500 internal error message too in Safari 1.3 too. (I'm not sure it's the latest version.)
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laurenlouise
05/14/05 10:58 AM GMT
I intend to test it with the new version of Safari soon. Tiger-hunting is on the agenda as soon as I do some backups :)
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>you can't stop the signal
trevor51590
05/14/05 9:47 PM GMT
This is very nice. Any idea when this is going to be implimented on the main site?
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Everyone has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
*caedes
05/14/05 10:31 PM GMT
I'd like to make it available as soon as I can add one other option. People need the ability to choose it or the older gallery script.
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-caedes
+Samatar
05/15/05 4:21 AM GMT
Klas I have Safari 2.0 and I don't have any probs. That version came with Tiger though, I'm not sure if it's avaialable for download or not.
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kjh000
05/15/05 6:17 AM GMT
I'm still running Panther so I can't have the latest Safari... It seems to be working now though. I think caedes worked some of his mojo. ^_^
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+cc_Beowulf
05/15/05 7:38 PM GMT
I too am using Safari in Panther and I just noticed that when it is "sorted randomly" it is really sorted by date and when it is "sorted by date" it is really random (I think).
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morbid_massacre
05/15/05 8:00 PM GMT
Works in Firefox...
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*caedes
05/16/05 12:29 AM GMT
I've enabled you to view all the current gallery in the new 'hyper' mode. Just click on "switch to hyper mode" at the top of each gallery. It doesn't currently work for the author galleries though.
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-caedes
+camerahound
05/16/05 7:03 AM GMT
Holy cow, Batman! The page scroll is faaaaaast. Works for consecutive pages or jump-to-page equally well.
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+Samatar
05/16/05 7:09 AM GMT
Actually I have found that the images take alot longer to load for me, and some of them don't load at all. I don't know why, it worked very well in the test. Maybe because now more people are trying to use it at the same time? Anyway I think I will be sticking with the old galleries for now.
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DMINATOR
05/16/05 7:10 AM GMT
Somehow the hyper view doesn't show the images in my Opera 8
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+camerahound
05/16/05 7:12 AM GMT
The images do seem to take longer to load. The pages, though, boogie.
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Weird but true:Texas - It was a 17-million-to-1 shot — actually shots — when an El Paso man and a player in his foursome each aced the same hole.
laurenlouise
05/16/05 7:29 AM GMT
Opening links into new tabs is working again, ta very much.
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>you can't stop the signal
::CanoeGuru
05/17/05 7:51 PM GMT
One minor thing: The "next page" button is located at the top of the page, which is a bit inconvenient. It seems it would be more useful located at the bottom, since most people scroll through the images from top to bottom.
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trevor51590
05/17/05 10:23 PM GMT
I think it would be best to be on both the top and bottom
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Everyone has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
+Piner
05/17/05 11:58 PM GMT
Only 18 images per page in hyper mode? Any chance of 36 in the future?
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+Samatar
05/18/05 12:34 AM GMT
Not sure if it's just me, but every time I come back to the site the hyper gallery settings are reset to default (ie 12 images, sorted randomly)
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*caedes
05/18/05 12:43 AM GMT
That was the mode yesterday before I updated the code. If you refresh the page or clear out your cache it should reload the javascript and keep the settings now.
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DixieNormus
05/18/05 1:15 AM GMT
Caedes, I kind of liked how you could hold your pointer over an image, and it would display the author of the image. In hyper mode it just displays "tn". Other than that....hyper mode works superbly. =0)
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::CaptainHero
05/18/05 5:48 PM GMT
Yeah, it keeps the settings after the first time. As DixieNormus says, no alt text though (but it's not the end of the world).

Nice
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*caedes
05/20/05 12:57 AM GMT
Better alt text will be added later, it isn't a difficult or very important feature. I also fixed a bug that was preventing the browser from remembering the settings after the browser was closed. It should now keep the 'perpage' and sort method settings now.
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-caedes
::ieliles
05/21/05 3:02 PM GMT
I'm running the latest versions of XP and IE and it works great but I had a question. Why is the maximum number of images 18 while in norman more you can go up to 36? Were you trying to avoid problems with slower connections?
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*caedes
05/21/05 10:37 PM GMT
I haven't set it to 36 because it would then preload 36 images after the initial 36 were loaded. 72 images take quite a bit of bandwidth. I'll probably just modify the preloader so that it will only preload the first 12 images reguardless of the number displayed.
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Minkar
05/21/05 11:03 PM GMT
I was thinking it'd be cool to have the next and back buttons at the bottom of the page, so I can scroll to the bottom and then go to the next page without scrolling to the top again.
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*caedes
05/21/05 11:14 PM GMT
Yes I know. That will be added. I've just not done it yet since it will not be very fun to code. It is more complicated than just putting the html 'down there.'
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d_spin_9
05/21/05 11:33 PM GMT
i really like just having 12 images, because then i can scroll through a whole bunch without actually scrolling because its already preloaded so theres no waiting. i just have the page so i can see all 12 (maybe you could somehow make the page so it just puts as many images on the viewers screen size as possible without having a scroll bar???) then i can keep the next button inside the window at all times, they work great!
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*caedes
05/21/05 11:38 PM GMT
Yeah, that's the way I use it.
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reformist
05/24/05 9:21 AM GMT
Works perfectly for me in epiphany on linux. This is the most amazing thumbnail browsing system I have ever seen; I will never browse for wallpapers anywhere else because I am so in love with the "hyper mode" gallery. As for how many images to put, having 12 is fine because you can scroll through so quickly. I'd think any more would clutter the page. Whatever you do, ensure that the thumbnails do not make the page scroll... autodetecting how many will fit in the browser window based on its size is the way to go.
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Romane
05/26/05 11:50 AM GMT
Good morning Caedes
Still using IE (V6, XP, SP2) (quick grin). I only display 12 images at a time - easier to see in one screen at 1024x768, and as reformist said above, more than 12 clutters the page. Tried the experimental hypermode tonight. On my current connection, the pre-load seemed to make little difference to the final display of the subsequent page, though it may be the Laptop I'm working on (Pentium M 1700Mhz processor, 512 RAM, 128Mb video ram) - still waited about the same time. Miss the display of title/author/gallery when I hover the mouse cursor, and the ability to display only from a certain size and bigger.
Enjoy your day
Romane
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jacked
05/26/05 12:56 AM GMT
Agree with Romane, miss the display of title/author/gallery when I hover the mouse cursor, and when i click on return to normal nothing happens. Best wishes. Dwight.
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KEIFER
06/01/05 11:18 PM GMT
Thank you for this ... this, faster galleries, thingamabob

I started having troubles navigating this site a few months back ... a lot of thumbs don't load .. sometimes the entire page structure is DOA ... but I am having no such problems using this gallery feature ... maybe you understand that better than I do since I would have trouble picking CSS, XHTML, JavaScript out of a police lineup

If you should make this experiment permanent ... maybe a setting in the user's profile for determining how many pages to pre-load ... and whether they'd like coffee or tea while browsing

(*PS*) .. im using firefox 1.04 ... and if a page dumps me back out to "normal" galleries .. (like, closing out a Personal Message window) I'm back to the missing thumbs again
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bassface
06/10/05 2:30 PM GMT
I didn't bother reading this page due to it's length. The new galleries are great, but I noticed that when browsing and I go to an image, comment, then vote; after all that I hit back and it sends me right back to the gallery [not the past 2 pages I just went through i.e.: commenting and voting] but when I get there it doesn't remember my view settings. For example; start with "sort by date," go vote and comment, return and it's set to "sort by c-index." Don't know if this is a concern of Caedes or not. Just relaying the info I spotted in hopes of helping.
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DeathScytheG
06/12/05 5:39 PM GMT
Ok, I've got Firefox 1.03, but nothing's loading for me except the little description and the drop menus. No images. Can anyone help me please? I have Java enabled in the options...
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*caedes
06/12/05 9:03 PM GMT
You need javascript, not java. Make sure that is enabled and let me know.
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-caedes
DeathScytheG
06/12/05 11:12 PM GMT
I have both enabled.
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*caedes
06/12/05 11:20 PM GMT
I'm really not sure of what it could be. I'm using the same firefox version as you. Are there any errors in the javascript console (under the tools menu)?
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DixieNormus
06/12/05 11:51 PM GMT
If DeathSytheG is trying to use the link on your original post.....that could explain it.....no pictures are there!
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DeathScytheG
06/13/05 1:42 AM GMT
Oh. Oops :*) Got it now. Thanks
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*caedes
06/13/05 1:54 AM GMT
Good call on the old link. fixed now.
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cue
06/17/05 5:10 AM GMT
Hyper mode rocks. On a fast connection, loading time is un-noticable.
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jollybilly
06/23/05 2:28 PM GMT
It had really been slow in the normal mode moving between pages. Thank God this mode works fine with Win XP IE
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::verenabloo
06/24/05 5:18 AM GMT
I really like this new "setup"....
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::verenabloo
06/24/05 5:21 AM GMT
I guess the only thing I still wish was here..is to have the name of the place where the photo was taken...I forget where and when I tell someone about it, I would love to be able to let them know...
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caseyleestarr
06/27/05 6:07 PM GMT
Didn't read all the comments in this discussion due to a lack of motivation...but the only thing I'd say you could add to this "hyper mode" is the page buttons on the bottom as well [<] page 1 of 400 [>]...gets annoyning after a while gotta keep scrolling back up and goin to the next page when its on 18 pics at a time on 1280x1024 res still gotta continually scroll up...OTHERWISE I LOVE HYPER MODE A LOT! BEAUTIFUL!
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::lythrum
06/30/05 3:27 AM GMT
This is great. Much faster and very smooth. I like the ability to scroll from one page to the next. The pictures load immediately. I use Win XP IE. Agree that buttons at the page bottom would be nice.
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kjh000
08/09/05 8:28 PM GMT
I love the new faster gallery viewing. But... I would love to see a browsing bar or what to call it (with the right and left arrow on the sides), below the thumbnails. I'm unfortunately sitting by a screen that makes me scroll down on the page and I think it's a pain to scroll back to the top to browse on further. It sort of defies the whole idea of a faster gallery.

Dang. I'm slow today. I was going to write that I wasn't sure this had been brought up before but I see now that it is exactly what is said two posts above... Well... I guess it needs some attention still then. Sorry for the bump.
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mesmerized
09/16/05 9:23 PM GMT
Considering how crappy the computer is that I am often using while here I may not be getting the full benefit of this but I must say it is still a vast improvement over normal mode...I love how quickly each page loads.:Pat.
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::djrangman
09/16/05 10:12 PM GMT
Ver nice. At first I didn't like not having 36 images per page- but when you can switch so fast- what would be the point? :)
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Tarvos
09/17/05 3:06 PM GMT
I didn't know anything about it but it is faster and I do like it!
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qpalzm
10/05/05 7:44 PM GMT
Works fine in IE. Loads instantly,Quality
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&prismmagic
10/29/05 7:18 AM GMT
I like it so far I've tested on four browser and it works fine.
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.hobgoblin
11/26/05 1:02 PM GMT
It looks cleaner, and it's a lot quicker, although I'd prefer it if the next/previous page thing was at the bottom.
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.AeroEagle
12/10/05 10:38 PM GMT
Absolutely love the faster loading of images (or pre-loading as the case may be). Works great on Firefox 1.5, although I agree with hobgoblin, it would be much better if next/previous button was on the bottom for those of us with less than ideal sized monitors.
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p_kelchen
01/05/06 9:05 PM GMT
It works well in my browser, Konqueror 3.5 (Apple copied it to make Safari) except for the fact that the thumbnail previews do not enlarge into a tooltip with a bigger preview like they used to but that only worked on the Windows version of Firefox and not in any other browser. I liked that as the thumbnails are pretty little and the blow-up is nice. I also wish there was a page navigation button/menu at the bottom of the page.
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::philcUK
01/05/06 9:43 PM GMT
Apple originally used the KHTML rendering engine in return for sharing its own development results with the Konqueror 'KDE' development community which it subsequently did. this was back in 2002 before Safari's launch the year after. and it still doesnt render pages correctly all the time. pain in the butt.
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jmonw
02/01/06 2:50 AM GMT
Works great!! Thanks for it. Two things I would like to see (and these very well may have been mentioned above)

1) Forward and Back buttons at the bottom of the page. I don't like having to scroll back up to change the page.
2) Let me see more images on one page.

Other than that, it's awesome. Blazing fast. Thanks for it.
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.mikohead
02/11/06 1:36 AM GMT
LOVE DA SPEED, however

"1) Forward and Back buttons at the bottom of the page. I don't like having to scroll back up to change the page. " like jmonw said would be great.
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.Lirstar
04/09/06 2:13 AM GMT
It's alot faster. The only thing that is different is that when you hover your mouse over a picture, it doesn't show the title or artist.
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.timw4mail
04/13/06 10:47 PM GMT
Why are you crazy people still using IE? I understand if you HAVE to because of work,ect, but who in their right mind would subject themselves to such torture?
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cmtrandall
05/30/06 11:46 AM GMT
Could you put a 'next page' button at the bottom of the list as well? Thanks.
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::oksyl
06/01/06 11:48 PM GMT
I use the Avant Brower, I switched to hyper mode and the pictures come up instantly. I dint like scrolling back to the top for next page and the limit of 18 images per page, but I can live with the speed. A next page button on the botton would be a swell tool. Thanks
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.hernoor
06/01/06 11:56 PM GMT
I'd suggest putting that suggestion on the dev. site (dev.caedes.net) You'll need to register again on that site before posting though.
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sdwilson2002
06/09/06 2:20 AM GMT
I like it a lot.
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.fogz
06/23/06 10:08 PM GMT
ahhh! that explains why I am having problems uploading a photograph tonight! I have problems with Java on my IE and everytime I try to upload a picture, I get the page "Can't find page" and have tried about 6 times now. I am heading off to my Firefox to see if it works there. :)
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.scionlord
06/23/06 10:56 PM GMT
I think Caedes is working on something...I have been unable to upload as well. Also tried on Firefox.
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*caedes
06/23/06 11:22 PM GMT
We ran out of disk space. It is fixed now.
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::muggsy
06/24/06 12:15 AM GMT
Using IE seems to be fine. Notice an appreciable improvement in bringing up the page. Much faster.
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.fogz
06/24/06 10:03 AM GMT
Thank you Caedes for fixing the upload problem. :) and thanks for all the hard work you and the other members who work on this site put into it! ...and about the galleries - the hypermode is excellent! - works like a treat! - the pictures appear at lightening speed and I am now browsing at breakneck pace! LOL!
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.hernoor
07/07/06 1:41 AM GMT
In Firefox clicking on the hyper mode button on top basically refreshes the page still in normal mode. In IE it works fine though - I'm using mainly IE now due to some problems with Firefox, but I sometimes use Firefox and the hyper mode doesn't work then. What's up with that?
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.hernoor
07/07/06 6:30 AM GMT
Never mind - it works fine now.
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::cuddlebuddy48
07/10/06 12:45 AM GMT
I don't know what I use!!? But it is workin great for me!! =) By the time I finish browsing and enjoying.....the next page is ready for me! Neato!
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&DigitalFX
07/10/06 2:38 PM GMT
I like it gerry. very fast here.
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::KLZ
08/29/06 12:03 AM GMT
I love it. I am running opera9 on WinXP with no problems whatsoever. Fantastic downloading speed to see all the thumbnails.
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::smoosh
08/29/06 6:51 PM GMT
Not sure if this is the right area to post, but since it was titled "Faster Galleries" I thought it might be.

Is anybody else experiencing very sluggish load times? I've noticed that the past few days, checking the new images gallery has been very slow, and loading images at their full size is also taking a while. I'm not having this trouble on other sites (aside from MySpace, which is usual) so I thought I'd check in.
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SINCERE THANKS to everyone who visits, views and/or comments on my Gallery. I really appreciate your feedback!
*caedes
08/29/06 7:48 PM GMT
Do you mean that the page (HTML) takes a long time to load or the images?
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-caedes
::smoosh
08/29/06 11:33 PM GMT
I'm experiencing a little of both. I notice it especially when I click on the "New Images" gallery. It doesn't load for me as fast (I tested both "normal" and "hyper" mode) and then when I'm trying to click on the thumbnail to see the full version -- for leaving feedback -- it's slower for me too.

I've cleared my cache, just in case, and have also shutdown and restarted my PC. I am running WinXP with plenty of RAM and I have a high speed cable connection. Hope that helps!
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SINCERE THANKS to everyone who visits, views and/or comments on my Gallery. I really appreciate your feedback!
::smoosh
08/30/06 8:53 PM GMT
Hey Mr. Caedes... did you do anything? :) I seem to be a little faster today. Just wanted to pass that on.
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SINCERE THANKS to everyone who visits, views and/or comments on my Gallery. I really appreciate your feedback!
::third_eye
08/30/06 10:22 PM GMT
perhaps you spilled espresso on your computer? :P
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*caedes
08/30/06 10:25 PM GMT
Nope, I didn't change anything that would have made a difference to you.
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::timw4mail
08/31/06 1:54 AM GMT
Personally, I prefer to view the regular gallery because I can see more on a page at once...but that's just me.
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.Nikoneer
07/09/10 2:43 PM GMT
I don't see a "hyper-mode" button on any gallery I go to.
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*caedes
07/09/10 7:55 PM GMT
It has been removed for some time.
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.Nikoneer
07/09/10 8:23 PM GMT
Oh boy, I guess I should pay some attention to the dates on these threads... my DOH!
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*caedes
07/09/10 10:35 PM GMT
What's four years between friends? =)
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.Pixleslie
07/09/10 11:25 PM GMT
:^*
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