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How to get helpful feedback

::Quiet
08/03/05 4:40 PM GMT
A more positive spin on the issue of feedback might be for existing members to recommend actions that a new member can take to encourage feedback from viewers. Here are a few I can think of:

1. When you post your image, YOU put what you think you did right and wrong (technically) with the image. It immediately breaks the ice on the topic and will allow others to speak to your comments, which is less confrontational. Plus, it increases your credibility that you are looking for constructive feedback.

NOTE: This is probably the quickest way to open the door to feedback. I've seen a few artists who do it and was really surprised at what it yielded them for comments.

2. Take your time getting to know the other members (view their work, dialog with them) and pick a few with which you can exchange feedback on your images. Asking the masses to comment will only yield you less targeted (and likely less helpful) responses. Getting to know the person who is offering feedback will also reduce the chances of misunderstandings.

3. Monitor Caedes discussion boards for other users who are also asking for feedback. Ask them whether they'd like to exchange feedback on an image (or images). Chances are they will, but it's always nice to check first. :-)

Anyone else have any suggestions?
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::Morwyn
08/03/05 6:39 PM GMT
Thank you..
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*caedes
08/03/05 6:56 PM GMT
These are all good points, but I particularly like the idea of #1.
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::regmar
08/03/05 7:51 PM GMT
I like these suggestions as well, but I'd like to point out that before I was edumacated by my fellow caedeans, I didn't know why my good photos were good. I just knew that I liked them. Part of my education here has been in learning why what is good - is good. Likewise I have been (painfully) educated on why what is bad - is bad.

To nudge our newbies along perhaps we can suggest some tips for good images. Since I am aphotographer I will suggest that new photographers attempting to follow Quiet's advice should break their technical ideas down into


1) Composition : Why do you think your choice and arrangement of subjects is good? Read about the "Rules of Composition". Look them up. You will not regret this, since it makes you sound a lot smarter than you feel (at least I do.).


2) Lighting : Why do you think your choice of lighting is good?


3) Exposure : Why do you feel that this was the best exposure setting that you could choose to create your image? Different exposure settings affect the way different items at different ranges in your image are focused. Since exposure is composed of shutter speed, aperture setting, "film speed", and any filters that were used, each of these things affect your resulting image. Expound...


4) Your choice of black and white or color affects your image. Why did you choose the one you did?


5) Finally post-production : Did you use an editing software package to change anything after you downloaded the photo to your computer? If so how did you alter the image? Did you put a frame around it? Did you change the contrast? Did you crop it? Don't be afraid to admit to this. We all do it. It's part of the process.

Thank you Quiet for suggesting this thread. It's an excellent idea, and i think it will help some of our people who are grasping for answers.

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*caedes
08/03/05 8:18 PM GMT
"makes you sound a lot smarter than you feel," ha ha so true.
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bjb
08/03/05 8:51 PM GMT
I like your focus here on technical difficulties rather than opinions Quiet. Well done.
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DixieNormus
08/03/05 9:46 PM GMT
Excellent idea Quiet. =0)
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scionlord
08/03/05 10:49 PM GMT
sounds like a plan.
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tommy62
08/04/05 12:38 AM GMT
I like your ideas! Especially when we talk about technical aspects and where there exist some " Laws"...
Your idea about taking the time to get to know new members ( or unknown ) is the one i personally like best.
Maybe we can exchange something with each other before we start to criticise peoples work..I mean we can also find nice Buddies here, so its nothing to lose in my opinion.
Good thinking and a very useful plan!
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co2metal
08/04/05 3:28 AM GMT
excellent.. hopefully this changes things up a bit and possibly brings the people together more.
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J_272004
08/04/05 4:18 AM GMT
Brilliant ideas Quiet...
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::Torque
08/04/05 4:01 PM GMT
Glad to see a constructive forum for a nice change of pace. I already make an attempt to get to know people and monitor the discussions, but I think I will start identifying the problems I perceive in the image description. A warning to those who are concerned with C-index, this is sure to decrease it on a consistent basis, however, for those who are looking to do the best job they can at what they do, this is an excellent short path to improvement. You'll need to ask yourself why you're really here and what your priorities are.

I think regmar made some good talking-point suggestions. All of those things are really concepts I've only become familiar with since joining Caedes, so anything to jump-start the process seems like a good idea to me. In my opinion it would be a good idea to add some combination of Quiet's and regmar's posts to the site FAQ's with regard to the frequently asked question of "how do I get better?" or "how can I get more feedback?"
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tommy62
08/04/05 6:11 PM GMT
I wrote this a loong time ago in the thread "Is it wise to criticise"
I quote myself..
"Maybe the people who like to give critics ALSO can improve their abilities and also learn more about Art if they also ask more about what other people wants to express and what kind of methods they use or what they are trying to achieve..it might make the critics more right indicated and a lot of missunderstandings might be avoided...
Maybe that would be one way to erase the boundaries between people?
Two way communication is a very good way to raise the understanding between different people, i think that would work fine between Artists as well.... " End of quote"
;-)
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::Quiet
08/04/05 9:52 PM GMT
Good idea, Torque. If any of these suggestions prove helpful (well, especially regmar's breakdown of the technical aspects), they could be extracted to the FAQ and who knows, maybe this will become a topic that will not need to be resurrected, if it has been already. :-)
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