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::Nikoli
09/04/05 12:58 AM GMT
Well lets see, if we had the chance to go back in time and not affect the future @ all. What time & why is the question?
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::philcUK
09/04/05 1:09 PM GMT
I think that would be impossible - not the time travel bit - the not altering the time line. - even the slightest thing you do would alter it in some way or other :-)
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::Nikoli
09/04/05 1:16 PM GMT
Well then Mr Phil, paradoxically I agree with you. However stop being pedantic (friendly tone). It's meant to be a bit of fun. How about you wake up and your somewhere else that you would like to be anyway, where would that be and why? DT'S Kicking in.
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::philcUK
09/04/05 2:26 PM GMT
well if i could do any of that I'd jump back three days and buy the winning ticket for the Euro Lotto seeing as how no one won the $73,059,910 rollover jackpot. timeline be buggered. :-)
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Warrior_of_the_Eceni
09/04/05 2:28 PM GMT
I'd pop off to Germany bout 25 years before WW2 and pop Hitler.
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::philcUK
09/04/05 2:31 PM GMT
without getting pedantic again - I think history has shown that would be one of the worst moves ever - thats why the allies never did it. It's only because he was stark raving mad that his plans fell apart...

the second world war would have happened anyway - with or without Hitler
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Warrior_of_the_Eceni
09/04/05 2:36 PM GMT
aye, but if he was cut down before he evn got into stride what would there be to worry about?
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::philcUK
09/04/05 2:37 PM GMT
his generals starting a war instead with a proper strategy...
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Warrior_of_the_Eceni
09/04/05 2:40 PM GMT
If he was never even in power he would have never appointed them as general now would he?
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::philcUK
09/04/05 2:41 PM GMT
they would have still being evil people plotting imperialism - we're talking a whole nationalist movement here - not just one man. hitler didnt start WW1 but that was done for more or less the same reasons.
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Warrior_of_the_Eceni
09/04/05 2:43 PM GMT
Fine you be realistic but dont try and stop me from being idealistic :-(
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::philcUK
09/04/05 2:47 PM GMT
ok :-) ** shuffles off suitably scolded **
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::Nikoli
09/04/05 3:05 PM GMT
Well what would I do uuummmm? Supposing chaos theory is correct, I would go back to where the butterfly was flapping its wings and stop that Katrina Hurricane. Shamone.
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XYZ
09/04/05 4:49 PM GMT
I'd pull some pranks on my teachers and go back in time before I did them so I don't get suspended.
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_myst_
09/04/05 7:12 PM GMT
time traveling ithout changing the known world is impossible.
nut in my imagination..
i'd like to go in the year..say 1997 and form caedes.net :D
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Crusader
09/04/05 8:45 PM GMT
Much better idea... I would go back in time and buy Microsoft, Google, Yahoo and a part of AMD, Intel and IBM. Then I'll have all that revenue invested, pop back to the future, and spend all that lovely cash on creating my own Space Agency.
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::philcUK
09/04/05 8:49 PM GMT
I think Microsoft starte dup with a $20,000 loan so it would have been worth a quick investment :-)
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::Nikoli
09/04/05 10:18 PM GMT
I would go back and patent the wheel. Think of everything today that needs a wheel mmmooonnneeeyyy.
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Warrior_of_the_Eceni
09/04/05 11:48 PM GMT
well that would be fine if the idea of patents not to mention a government to enforce them even existed =P
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::philcUK
09/04/05 11:48 PM GMT
now whos getting pedantic :-)
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Warrior_of_the_Eceni
09/05/05 3:33 AM GMT
=P moneymaking doesnt constitute idealism, therefore its not hypocritcal to be pendantic in this case.
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XYZ
09/05/05 3:41 AM GMT
I would publish bestsellers and have people think I am a great author!
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::Nikoli
09/05/05 8:26 AM GMT
I would go back in time and figure how the Inca's built Machu Pichu. By the way XYZ thats a cracking icon. I have just downloaded Apophysis so will have a look and see what its about when I have time.

Off on my travels now folks till next Sunday, take care guys / gals.
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Drakala
09/05/05 6:14 PM GMT
I would go and see what killed the dinosaurs so I can stop it and unleash them on you all
Mwah ha ha ha
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prismmagic
09/06/05 7:11 AM GMT
I would go back and by stock in the company that was advertizing on the back of the TV guide magazie that I sold door to door as akid and my father said would never amount to anything. It was Zerox at .10 cents a shair. As he puts his head down in tears.
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sadoc111
09/06/05 3:11 PM GMT
well, i think i would go back to the days when gas was 19 cents a gallon and stock up. . .
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All I want to know is who the man is that looked at a cow and said "I think I’ll drink from whatever comes out of those things when I squeeze them
Drakala
09/06/05 3:16 PM GMT
I would go back to tudor times and pop off shakespeare so I never had to study it oh and get rid of the german language *no offence to any germans* as those lessons took a small part of my soul
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sadoc111
09/06/05 3:54 PM GMT
AMEN to that. . .three damn years of German took way more than than a small part of my soul.
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All I want to know is who the man is that looked at a cow and said "I think I’ll drink from whatever comes out of those things when I squeeze them
Drakala
09/06/05 4:58 PM GMT
Well I had a very large soul and German made it a normal soul so damn it damn it *again no offence intended to germans unless you teach geman in which case fell offended*
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Lady_Rhea_
09/06/05 10:10 PM GMT
I would go back to medieval times!!! I LOVE castles, forests, swords, archers. etc.
So.. who agrees with me?
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sadoc111
09/06/05 10:22 PM GMT
ummm.i'd go back. . .with an uzi
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All I want to know is who the man is that looked at a cow and said "I think I’ll drink from whatever comes out of those things when I squeeze them
Warrior_of_the_Eceni
09/07/05 2:02 AM GMT
Aye, I agree with Rhea. What I wouldnt give to be living for the moment.
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::Morwyn
09/07/05 3:46 AM GMT
I'll stay home, thank you..
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One bead at a time..
sadoc111
09/07/05 3:22 PM GMT
you know what, i'd like to go back in time and tell myself to not skip that day i did in highschool which just so happened to be the day i had a surprise midterm in my math class which took me weeks of greuling extra credit to make up.
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All I want to know is who the man is that looked at a cow and said "I think I’ll drink from whatever comes out of those things when I squeeze them
Lady_Rhea_
09/07/05 9:52 PM GMT
Germans are cool!!! I would want to go back to shakespeare's time and get
hand written copies of his plays and poems.... I would then sell them 4 a lot o mulah!!!
hehehe, but not before keeping the origionals 4 myself and giving them the copies.....

BTW I'm German, they r cool. Except 4 hitler he is evil....
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XYZ
09/08/05 12:43 AM GMT
I'd go back to when people though magic was real, just if they knew, I'd bring a lighter and tell them that I am their god and if they try anything on me, fire, fire fire! I'd love to have power!
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::dreamer100
09/08/05 2:57 AM GMT
I wouldn't go to any time before the invention of penicillin or deodorant.

Ok, some things would be irrestible. Aug. 4 1962, invisible in the corner of Marylin Monroes bedroom, I' listen to the discussion about when to call the ambulance and see who was in on the decision.
Oak Island, to watch the money pit being loaded and constructed.
Whitechappel, Sept 8 1888 on Hanburry Street to follow Annie Chapman into the dark and see who else followed her......
From Nov 25 to Dec 5th 1872 aboard the Mary Celeste before she drifted into the Bay of Gibraltar empty.

Yep, I'd use it to kill all the great mysteries for everybody else.
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Warrior_of_the_Eceni
09/08/05 12:46 AM GMT
I think if you did that last one, you probably wouldnt be around to tell anyone what happened...
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sadoc111
09/08/05 3:27 PM GMT
well, i go back in time just to see who actually shot the "shot heard around the world" in the american revolution
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Lady_Rhea_
09/08/05 6:51 PM GMT
Yeah, me 2. :) I think what XYZ said was a really good idea... but I would use
fireworks.. hehehe
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::Nikoli
09/11/05 10:10 PM GMT
I'd go back to the exact point where an sentient entity had the first ever homosapien thought. Reason being that all other thoughts and the world we know it as toady has stemed from the first origional thought. Neme's.
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+camerahound
09/11/05 10:45 PM GMT
The Hitler conundrum offers an interesting approach to this historical perspective: does the man control events or events the man? Hitler was indeed a product of his time, but had he died in say 1938, at the zenith of his power and prestige in Germany, would the consequent Nazi supreme command still have ‘annexed’ the Sudetenland and attacked Czechoslovakia and Poland? Would they also have foolishly endorsed “Operation Barbarossa”?

I think not. But if Pearl Harbor had still taken place, the United States would have entered the war on the side of the Allies, and Russia, as a member of the Axis, almost certainly would have engulfed most of what was to subsequently become the Soviet Union. Eventually, in the fog of war, Germany and Russia would have divided Europe and the Middle East, and Japan would have vanquished all of the Pacific (including Australia) with the possible exception of Hawaii.

Hitler would have been praised posthumously as the architect of the new world order, and the Cold War nonetheless would have ensued as a Nazi-Communist conflict. The US, in all probability, then would have joined with the Nazis against Stalinism.

In this scenario, an all-out nuclear holocaust would have been the likely result.
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::Nikoli
09/11/05 10:53 PM GMT
Simply go back and re-instate the power to the people.....................? You will always get a power driven soul, as to some people power is their motivation. How would this be solved? Because if that could of or can be done then why hasen't it?
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Drakala
09/12/05 1:59 PM GMT
*In response to Lady Rhea's comment on Germans so every Nazi apart from hitler was cool then? >8^(*
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::Nikoli
09/12/05 2:12 PM GMT
Look @ Iraq half the country did not want Sadam however they were so scared of civil conflict they never opposed him to the degree of toppling their dictator. Hitler and the SS were in that same powerfull position aswell as Stalin, Moussalini, Fidel etc. The thing they had in Common was they did not mind hurting their fellow country men and women to gain notoriety and power. Think of this, what would happen if Blair and Bush were the same intentions, think what it would take to overcome them this may answer your question. (Bit political).
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sadoc111
09/12/05 3:02 PM GMT
i see your point Nikoli, infact i think that i as an American could say that right now about how i feel my country is being run, we hear alot of complaining about Bush. . .but no one really seems to want to do much about it, and its partly because we fear change and partly because the system is so corrupt. But thats just how i feel
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Drakala
09/12/05 3:07 PM GMT
I meant leading Nazis who wanted to be Nazis like Himmler etc.
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::Nikoli
09/12/05 3:11 PM GMT
Hi Sadoc,

We have a similar prob over here, the only controling factor we have is the Monarchy as they oversee and act as a control mechanism for what we are lead to believe decisions that directly affect how things occur. Blair wants to abolish the rights of the Monarchy and create a Republic therefore gaining full control. If that were to occur I can safely say we would revolt. This is due to an identity we have and values we have been brought up with. Consider this how big is the USA? That would be such a task. What happened to the votes in Florida? they were lost etc..................? Politicians are never to be trusted, what else could we do?
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sadoc111
09/12/05 3:22 PM GMT
well, unfortunately, i can only try to show people the truth and wake them up from their little political wonderland dream. But i guess we will have to ride Bush out until his term ends. I try to stay up on world politics and i knew you guys were having some issues with Blair but did think it was that bad, sometimes a good revolt is what it takes.
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::Nikoli
09/12/05 3:30 PM GMT
It's probably not as bad as it sounds. We are a small lil island and have a lot of punch and these 2 idiots are going to wreck it all. And monsieurs like George infuriate me and I would rather hang myself rather than live in a unified state populated by the lot of them.
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sadoc111
09/12/05 3:35 PM GMT
well, then i suggest not to move here. Its pretty much daily when i am just amazed at some people's mentality. . .but once again, America is huge and the stereotype doesnt apply to everyone. . .but it is pretty bad.
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Drakala
09/12/05 3:38 PM GMT
Personally Nikoli I couldn't care less if we got rid of the monarchy as they just use up taxes
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::Nikoli
09/12/05 3:49 PM GMT
You are perfectly entitled to you opinion Kevin. However I have heard and debated about this for years (which does not make me right by the way). Take a family and all they are bred to do is that position from day one. We start a job from 16 maybe even younger they have to be responsible from day 1. Albeight some dont but that is due to pressure. Find out what they contribute and allign it on a set of imaginary scales against what they dont pay you may be supprised. Being 17 and your full and hopefully very eventfull life ahead of you, this for me and yourself could be drastically altered living in a republic. I completely understand your point of view and welcome any further comment (PM) just so I can maybe explain my point of view clearer if needed or alt learn your perspective on things which could help me anyway.
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Drakala
09/12/05 3:54 PM GMT
Thanks Nikoli
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::Nikoli
09/15/05 10:19 PM GMT
I would go back in time to when I was 21 and visit some seedy spots ; )
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Si
09/16/05 3:10 PM GMT
Power, money and political rearrangements are all "changing the future", which isn't what we were asked. Go back in time without changing anything, and you'll be just as broke when you get back as you were when you left.

So what would I do? Go back to Earl's Court in 1975 and find out whether Led Zeppelin really were as good as I remember them. Go back to Wembley in 1974 and hear Pink Floyd play an astonishing version of Dark Side that I've only ever heard on tape. Go back to Manchester Free Trade Hall (if that's where it happened) and hear the version of "Like a Rolling Stone" that resulted when Dylan told the band to "play f***ing hard" after a fan shouted "Judas!" at him for going electric. See Nirvana, Hendrix, the Beatles and all the other bands I never got chance to hear live. For starters.

And that's just music. Never mind going back and killing Shakespeare (which might just change the future a little) - I'd go back and see the plays (admittedly, only one or two) as they were meant to be seen. See the Mona Lisa, the Last Supper and the Sistine Chapel, freshly painted and unfaded by time. See the Venus de Milo with arms. Visit the library at Alexandria, even if I couldn't rescue the contents. Spend a few years following a carpenter's son around the Middle East.

Go on a bender with Dylan Thomas. Or Oliver Read. Or Keith Moon. Insert the interesting character of your choice, really.

Go right back. Find out what colour dinosaurs were - there's no fossil will tell you that.

Come on - let's see some imagination here. We're supposed to be artists, not money-grabbing megalomaniacs ;-)
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sadoc111
09/16/05 7:58 PM GMT
ahhh, but the true human nature always shines through Mr.Si, I would go back with a simple battery and designs on how to make it and present it to the scientists back in the 1800's and then come back to the future and see how much advanced we because of a jump start in science.
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::Nikoli
09/16/05 10:59 PM GMT
Shamone my brothers. That is a truely origional suggestion Sadoc. (forgive Bo'selecta quote)!
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purmusic
09/17/05 5:50 AM GMT
*Sigh* ... I must be a simpleton. I tried to follow this thread and after reading the intro ... my orignal thought still remains ... I want to go back and experience that first, that first real kiss. (Or am I self-centered and hedonistic?)
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::Nikoli
09/17/05 9:15 AM GMT
Nope I think most people would love to do that again.

Go back and spend more time with my Grandad before the onset of his Alphseimers.
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purmusic
09/17/05 7:31 PM GMT
Nice.

And on that note, although I have the coveted recipe, I would like to spend one more afternoon with my grandma, smelling the smells and just talking, as she baked her infamous pineapple cheescake. (The pastry had an obscene amount of butter in it ... so, you know it had to be good.)
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::Nikoli
09/17/05 7:53 PM GMT
That sounds fantastic. Pineapple is bitter enough to cut through the cheese and still be sweet. Good call P.
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kimcande
09/19/05 1:08 AM GMT
I love the taste of pineapple.
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::Nikoli
09/19/05 1:10 AM GMT
Especially pineapple sorbet.

I would go back to when I was bullied and sort the sod out alot sooner.
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prismmagic
09/19/05 6:59 AM GMT
I like Pinaeaple as long as it's over someting I like!
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purmusic
09/19/05 8:41 AM GMT
'K, right now, at this particular juncture of time and space ... I would like to go back ... back in time, just a few minutes ago, and not clip my one toenail as short as I did .. *ouch.*
And I just know tomorrow in footwear and socks, is not ... is not going to be fun :( .

I never was a fan of pineapple before this culinary creation of my grandmas'. It was nirvana.

One other frivilous comment ... go back and change the colour of my high school graduation suit. Maybe the haircut, too. Might have helped in the evening's ... er, pursuits. Hmm, this might have resulted in a very changed future for me, or present?Kidding, kidding.

'K, back to and on a more serious note ...

Feeling nostalgic. Relive a few firsts again. No changes necessary.

Tell Dr. Repsys that he was truly a fantastic teacher.

Go back and ask a few more questions, that were contemplated but, never aired.


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.noahnott
07/16/06 1:00 AM GMT
I too do not wanna go back in time more than a few minutes...all the work ive done in that time!??!! Cant be lost..nono, plus internet. Ha, NO WIFI!?
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&philcUK
07/16/06 1:04 AM GMT
stop dragging up age old threads and think of something new and original to say instead dammit!
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.noahnott
07/16/06 1:07 AM GMT
Hey, old threads are fun....btw, ive never seen this thread, so relativly it is new.
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&philcUK
07/16/06 1:11 AM GMT
if crushingly predictable and boring is fun then yes, your spot on the money. again.
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.noahnott
07/16/06 1:12 AM GMT
Why thank you..lol.
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.noahnott
07/16/06 1:13 AM GMT
btw im thinking up a new thread atm...not working so well tho
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