How do you all feel about it?
I think it is rather ironic that the major fuel producers in the USA, state that there is a major oil shortage.
But there net profit for last year was an average of 92 billion American dolors last year. I guess there must be a shortage as long as you making that kind of change. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
In a place wrere you have to drive futhur and further just to work and you take 73 % of the world imagrents that you have to compete with just for a job. you would complain to. Our population is growing at a rate of 7% a year due to imagration. That means less resources for the preasent populatin as more and more jobs are being out sourced to other countries do to the higher cost of state mandatroy taxes and fuel cost, and out of that 3.2 % is illegale imagrents. Now add that to the amount of taxes we pay to support those imagrents that come into this country. The other issue is what is the average miles per galllon that your vehicles get. On average our vehicles get betwwen 7 and 21 miles to a gallon of gas. Add that up when you have to drive at least 25 to 80 miles one way just to go to work. And some drive up to 250 mile round trip.
That’s a nice idea. But the problem is that there really is not a car sold in the in this country that gets over 30 miles to a gallon. Our supposed EPA standard lie to the public when they say that a car gets over 36 miles to the gallon! They are tested on a Dynamometer. Which is not accurate? When they say a car gets say 32 mile to the Gallon it is actually only getting around 23 mile to the gallon.My truck is rated at 27 highway and 21 city. It actually gets 19 highway and 13 city. Go figure!
Clay, is there ANY chance your truck is a diesel? If so, it is easy to convert it to Bio-diesel (running it off of veggie oil), and LA actually has some Bio-gas stations...the cost is still close to current gas prices, but in the long run, it is 1) better on your truck as it actually takes better care of vital engine parts, and 2) cleaner for the environment. One day I hope to have a diesel just to make it a bio truck. Less tune ups are required as are fewer oil changes, part replacements from wear and tear, and IF I can come up with the $3k I can actually produce my own bio gas in my backyard, which would make it even cheaper, because all I'd have to do is raid McDonalds tossed out oil bins!!! It's my happy thoughts for a future screwing of oil companies. One day I'll do this...one day...
And yeah...we hit $3+ per gallon. Here in Fresno the average one way drive to work is 25 miles...those in the foothills or just outside of Fresno drive further. Not to mention the average one way for a grocery store is 8 miles, the average one way to a good mall or Walmart is 11 miles. I have a little tiny car just big enough for my fmily to be comfortably cramped, it has a 12 gallon tank that I used to get almost 400 miles worth of driving off of. Despite oil changes, tune ups and other random regular upkeep made at the specified designated times...my car is 20 years old and is feeling the age...I know get if I am lucky 275 miles to the tank. What I could fill up for $25 or less a few years ago is costing me $35ish, for less miles to the gallon!!! Oh, and in Fresno, most driving is street driving, not highway, as the highways are located on either outside area of where all the stuff a person needs...so if we too the highway to get to a store we'd have to use the streets to backtrack 5 miles to get where we needed adding more miles to our drive. So to summarize...gas prices SUCK ASS!
That oil exec that Jerry was talking about ? His 486 million dollar package ? " obvious " is the wrong word ......... the right word here is " OBSCENE "
Let's see ... War in Iraq ... the price of crude oil hitting an all time record high ... business interests of those in the know ... geez, where's a natural disaster when you need one, eh boys?
However impeccably structured your reasoning Clay – the only way the consumer can make things work in their favour is to force manufacturers into offering better and more economical cars. There are plenty of options available now to US consumers that haven’t been around until a few years back including turbo diesels, bio fuel/bio ethanol, hybrids etc. If you don’t buy the gas guzzlers then they’ll stop making them. Take for instance the Ford F150 one of, if not the best selling car in its class in the states, and yet by modern engineering standards – virtually prehistoric. VW offer a diesel variant of its Touraeg SUV in European and Asian markets that has the same size engine as the F150 but much more power and twice the fuel economy and yet they don’t offer it to US customers, whilst Lexus offer Hybrid SUV’s with fuel economy as much as 400% better than American built models of similar power. These cars are available in the US market and yet sales figures are tiny compared to traditional gasoline cars. People power is always a strong force so if you stop buying the dinosaurs and start buying imported cars that offer better economy it will send a stinging message to home grown manufacturers that it is time for them to drag themselves into the rest of the world’s realities before their markets collapse. I understand your reasoning in your opening arguments but ultimately you are still paying far below the odds for your gasoline and perhaps a large rise in prices at the pumps will further speed up the transition to more modern and economical engine designs. The technology is already there and available so it’s up to you as consumers to make that choice.
Our key issue in the USA Phil, is that the oil and petroleum companies are to tightly intertwine. They work to closely in the area of fuel efficiency. The car companies design gas guzzlers in conjunction to the high consumption of fuel. Remember Mr. Bush promoted large SUV vehicles say it was good for the economy, I don’t know how he convinced the public that fuel consumption was good but he pulled it of by offering tax breaks to those who purchased one. I ironic term of events!
Phil there is a guy in the California who has developed a car that actually converts water to Hydrogen and burns it rather well. He dispelled the myth of large electrical supplies that are supposedly needed for the conversion process. It is all done in the vehicle it’s self. It sort of reminded me of the fuel system on the car in back to the future two. You know Mr. Fusion. Guess what has happened to this guy Idea. Last I heard was that the car companies wanted to buy it from him for around 150.000 000.00. We have heard nothing else from that. He converted a Ford Focus and a F150 to Hydrogen.
Another issue is that the USA payed off the the asian car companies to not introduce vehicles that get over 40 miles to the gallon before 2010.
yeah its pretty grim the deal going on between manufacturers and oil producers - which is why, i'd imagine, companies like VW dont offer their more economical powerplants in the states. Im convinced that it will only be through consumer pressure that this monopoly will be broken.
tell you what?...that i still love you? that i want to be with you for the rest of our lives and that im stupid for leaving you? well thats what i wanted to say but like i said it wont change a thing, because you love ashton and i cant leave krystalynne
people power. it's the way forward. imagine if everyone decided not to visit a gas station for just one day a week. shareholders would be swinging from the rafters. markets panic with just a one or two percent drop - imagine the panic if you forced a 15% drop in profits on them :-)
Netherlands Amsterdam $6.48
Norway Oslo $6.27
Italy Milan $5.96
Denmark Copenhagen $5.93
Belgium Brussels $5.91
Sweden Stockholm $5.80
United Kingdom London $5.79
Germany Frankfurt $5.57
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Russia Moscow $2.10
Puerto Rico San Juan $1.74
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Egypt Cairo $0.65
Nigeria Lagos $0.38
Venezuela Caracas $0.12
Current at the pump prices in the UK are $6.80/gallon for super unleaded....you just have to drive past the guy on the horse with the mask and flintlocks before you get to the pumps....
I think it is rather ironic that the major fuel producers in the USA, state that there is a major oil shortage.
But there net profit for last year was an average of 92 billion American dolors last year. I guess there must be a shortage as long as you making that kind of change. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$