love it.. adds some color to the mainpage as well.. as always, a great job

Dj

A great improvement! I've been waiting to see something like that on the front page since way back, when some of us suggested it on the site design contest! and the karma cap is a good move too!

Two thumbs up for "Not Mr. Caedes" ;c)

=) It's just wierd when people say that... like it's really my name.

so what should we call you? hehe

I like it a lot. Much easier than clicking on each link to view it. Very nice job!

Little problem - when I click on one of the TNI images on the homepage, the page loads without displaying the pic or any of the following comments, votes, etc. When I go in to the pic from the users profile, it works. I'm not sure, but I think (hope) it's not just me.

*edit*
Looking at the URLs of each link (the one from the homepage and the one from the user's profile), I've noticed that the value "Zephir.cgi?" is missing from the link on the homepage's TNI display.

Take mayne's "Majestic" for example.

TNI link URL=http://www.caedes.net/?lib=Caedes::Infopage&image=mayne-1112417003.jpg

Profile URL=http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Caedes::Infopage&image=mayne-1112417003.jpg

Hope that helps

Uhhh. yeah. I agree with Glenn. I have the same problem..... I click on the TNI picture and when the page is done loading, there is nothing......
:(
-Ed

Im sure its already been discused but is there a reason to the karma cap?

That is so Joost doesn't make caedes look bad. :-)

I ahev the same link problem too, but it isn't a huge deal. The site certaily looks different, it really shocked me at first. I am sure the weirdness will wear off in a day or two. Thanks for showing us that there really are people striving to make the site better!

Great and nice job and good idea about the karma.

Nice.

Looks great, but like everyone else when I click on the thumb nail to enlarge it and get the info there is nothing just a blank page. Hope to see it working soon :)

Ditto on the blank pages.

Ditto on BJ's ditto. :cP

It looks different in a good way. Guess it will just take a bit of getting used to.

I think Joost's Karma should be "Super Massive" he worked hard for that insane 21k...lol

Good idea Dave..lol.But again great work from Caedes.

Good morning
I like it. Agree with the comment that it adds some colour.
Enjoy your day
Romane

That looks great on the front page, but I am having the same problem.. when I click the image (to comment or view fullsize) it is a blank page with menu on the left...

I think this was a wonderful idea caedes!!!
A few of my images got into the top new images a couple of days ago and afterwards, their c-index plummeted really badly...but I think that now you can see the thumbnails, people will only click on an image if it looks good - because before, you couldn't tell whether you would like the image by its name or not :P - therefore, no one should really suffer this problem anymore :D
Great job!

yes, it looks excellent, I was impressed as soon as I logged on today. Agree with the Karma cap too. Perhaps we could take it further and have categories - i.e. under 100 is one category, 101-500 i another 501-1000 and so on (or whatever). If this was adopted, the category names would have to be chosen carefully to (i) avoid being condescending (calling people 'beginner' wouldn't go down well, if recent discussions are anything to go by...) and (ii) avoid creating any 'hierachy' by equating them to ranks in any way. Just a thought

Anyway, the front page looks great.

very nice indeed, i agree the front page looks much moreinviting as desktop/artwork site. however i have the same prob with the blank pages loading. :~)

Yes, having tested it, I too get blank pages when I click on a TNI image. :-(


Edit: Agree with Glenn - the Zephir.cgi is missing from the url - if you insert that it works fine. Must just be a little error when it was recoded.

Ok, I'm confused...I can't see anything either :S What do I do? I don't understand any of this computer language, lol...

You can do one of two things:

(i)You can insert Zephir.cgi in between the / and the ? on the address bar at the top of your browser
(so http://www.caedes.net/?lib=Caedes::Infopage&image=June-1112362148.jpg becomes http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Caedes::Infopage&image=June-1112362148.jpg)

or

(ii)You can do nothing and wait for Caedes to fix it.

Ok...I think I'll do nothing, lol...I'm sure it won't be long untill Caedes fixes it :D...I can wait :)

cool v helpful

It looks great this way... sure, one has to get used to it, but I like the change. And it's good that the "curse" of the top new images is banned ;-)
Thanks!

I'm so glad to see this change! Can't wait until the links are fixed :) I think this is a wonderful improvement. One thing though, I would like to see a title that indicates "Top New Images." Of course, those of us who have been here a while know what they are, but newbies won't. :)

As far as the Karma goes, I think CaptainHero's idea of different titles for different Karma categories is a great idea! Maybe some sort of icon that is different for each category.

Really do like the change, kind of miss the featured image thing but can live without it. Like the logo, some people were just... what's this website about? And the karma thing is a good idea too. Oh and I'm having the same problem with clicking the picture and nothing coming up... hmm

Yes, a title for 'Top New Images' would be good. Also an explanation of how they are chosen on the FAQ.

Thanks for the support on the idea of different karma levels, Rebecca.

Wow, I really should have caught that bug before updating the site. Thanks all.

No problem. We're patient :-D

Nice! Caedes (or whoever you are !), you probably did something, because now, I can view the pictures (if you didn't do anything, then it must have been my computer pulling a trick on me....) LOL.
Thanks for the change - now I can choose pictures I want to see without clicking back and forth through the titles! Great change - like many have said already, it adds a lot of colors to it and it looks more inviting! :D
-Ed

I noticed the change... then I looked to see if there was some news about it changing, or if I was just nuts, thankfully it really changed ;) Looks good.

looks great.. and thanks for the quick fix..

I like tthe new format like everyone else but I have a question. How long does an image remain on the screen. It is almost like watching a sldie show of wonderful images. Everytime I return to the home page there are diferent images. I have seen one of mine appear at least three different times in different locaions.If this is a roating slide show then KUDOS as it will allow more images to be displaed. Still the question is how long will an image be allowed to remain on the TNI. Good work, thank you.
fotobob

I love having images on the homepage, ditto on the title for Top New Images, and I was wondering if anyone noticed that when they clicked on Earth Hugger, an error came up saying it had been deleted! Is this just a glitch, or was it really deleted? If so, some people might be kinda confused understanding why it would be a top new image if it had been deleted, and that includes me... lol.

Massive... ..the karma was like our score. Haha, but I guess i'll have to get over it. I'm sure there was a good reason you did that.

Yeah, I experienced the Earth Hugger problem. Possibly deleted due to copyright issues, at a guess.

A question, Caedes: Will we see the single image that used to be on the left ever again (can't remember what it was called..um...'Featured Image', that was it...)?

Yes, I'm thinking of a few different ways to do that. I've not done the work to code it yet though.

Bravo!!! Caedes for the improvement on the front page! I really like everything on it!
Kudoz for the karma!

Ok, thanks for the reply.

Thanks Caedes, this is great!

The karma thing is a really good idea, caedes...it'll stop people vying for the highest points :D
Love all the changes...great job!

but wouldnt that be a good thing? lol

Lol...I suppose it could, yeah...^_^

I like the thumbnails on the home page. It gives people a glimpse into what the site contains. Smooth move Caedes!

As MiloAnderson said "Im sure its already been discused but is there a reason to the karma cap?" ?

The karma cap is to remove the incentive for people to past many comments for the sole purpose of getting a rediculously high karma.

meh, it probably wouldn't stop anything lol

I hope that some won't think that i am commenting lesser because my Karma changed in massive, forget it, i continue the same way, it is my good right i presume.

suuuuure, joost... jk lol

oh ok. sounds like a reasonable idea to me.

Are any of these images still randomly selected or are these all top images? Either way, I like it.

EDIT: What I mean to say is, do moderators still select an image they find particularly nice or are these all just taken from the top 10%?

i don't believe moderators have ever had anything to do with the TNI's.. like caedes said, "The TNI are now selected randomly from the top 10% of images (by c-index) from between 3 and 9 days ago (in order for them to get enough votes). They also have to have a minimum of 5 votes.".. so all of what you see is in the top 10% of images between 3 and 7 days old.

Okay, thanks for the info.

Remember though how there used to be one image on the left that would change every now and then while the top five images were on the right as links? I always thought visible image was a selected piece.

No, that image was chosen on a rolling basis from a selection of high-rated images in the permanent galleries by a set criteria. Like the TNI's, it was selected by a script, not a person. The only difference with the new look is that thumbnails are now visible and the single 'Featured Image' has temporarily gone (I believe that Caedes is looking at bringing it back when he has coded it). Also the TNI criteria formula is slightly different, I think.

yes, all correct.

dont know if its just me, but im guessing the upper left image is being worked on to bring back the featured image? had noticed it wasnt one of the new images a minute ago and was curious..

Dj

Yeah, I just changed it. It is now an image from the permanent galleries.

not to be a pest about it, but is there any way to distinguish between them.. i mean, i know the difference, as will most of the regulars, but for those who arent familiar.. just an idea.. dont take me too serious :)

Dj

If you can come up with a space-efficient, attractive way to distinguish between them then you're welcome to lay out a design suggestion.

how bout something simple like this? granted this is only an image, but it gives you an idea of what i was thinking.. simple, only drops the images a few pixels further down.. but should be able to cut down on confusion :D

as i said before, this is only an idea

Dj

I'm not keen on that design, DJ, but then again I'm also not keen on having no demarcation between the featured image and the TNI's.

Perhaps Two FI's (vertically) and then the remaining 4 TNI's? There would still need to be titles (as suggested some time ago on this thread). Some sort of vertical border would be required between the two areas too.

Would it be possible to make the title of the image include the words "Featured image -"?

Underneath the image you mean? Maybe - would there be room with longer titles?

maybe the TNI thumbnails could be a bit smaller and at the right side with no titles, and a featured image centered to the left?

I really don't se the point in designating the images with special names. We know that they images are "featured" because they are on the front page after all. The reason that they are featured seems like a detail that the average visitor to the site doesn't really need to know. For instance, what if I decide to put a "lonely" image on the front page so that it will get enough votes. Would I then have to add a caption to the image telling exactly why it was chosen and maybe including the math formula that I used to select it? I'll probably just leave it as is for now.

*refers to a comment on other posts with regard to possibility of coloured border around permanent images* Only needs to be what...5 pixels wide at the most? Even if it is only a dark colour, it would be nice to be able to differentiate at a quick glance.

Going back to the beginning of this post, I would like to point out the minimum of 5 votes to get inclusion....sometimes it takes days or weeks to get more than 2 votes. I suppose it need us as in all the people that regularly comment to make sure we vote on every image we look at regardless of comment or not.

Yes, I considered the statistics on voting before deciding onthe number of votes and the time interval from which the images are chosen.

I really like the new site design and also noticed no one had commented on the slight change in the link-to-home image in the upper corner. Adding "Desktop Wallpaper" was a subtle and in my opinion much needed improvement so good thinking there.

Now, duck or you might get hit with a couple of pennies... I was thinking that the images on the homepage serve two main purposes, one is to highlight good images that members might not have seen (both new and old) and the other is to put our best foot forward for first time visitors. In that spirit, what if the images were split three and three. Then you could separate the rows and label the top row "featured classics" and the bottom row "best new images" or something like that.

With the new rotation plenty of top new images get exposure so it seems like 3 would be ok instead of 5. That also gives more exposure to some of the great classics we may have missed or forgotten, and I think that bank of images is probably a better foot to put forward on average since it pulls the cream from a larger crop than the best new ones.

Also, I do think that if lonely images are added they should be identified as such since they are probably not up to the quality of the usual featured images we might present to visitors of the site.

hmm...lonely images are not necessarily of lesser quality, I think it is often to do with the style of image, which may put people off, or perhaps people don't scroll through new images, and it is not visited.

are you trying to get people to leave you comments? Because I'll leave one so you can be one comment closer to "massive" lol. Bye!!! :)

I think the front page is fine as it is...caedes is right...we don't really need to know that the top left image originates from the permanent galleries. In answer to scionlord;s query about votes..I've never really had a problem getting five votes...surely it doesn't take weeks to months on some people's work!? No offence meant, of course ^_^
But what I don't understand is how the *lonely images* gallery really works, because although it's supposed to be for images that *haven't been given enough love and affection* by other caedes members...some of the desktops in there have been featured in the top new images at the same time...and on the odd occasion when my images have appeared in there, it doesn't make sense why they sould because most of the time they do have over five votes and rather a high c-index, too!

Very good work. Congratulation «Mr. Caedes», we all thank your work to put Caedes.net to the top....ever !

I like the changes, and think that thumbnails for the TNIs is a great idea. If the design stays like this I'll be happy..... But I do like Torque's idea. Three images with a caption "Top New Images" and three captioned "Featured Classics" (or similar) would make it even better imho.

This may have already been answered, but how often do the images rotate/change?

every five minutes

I really like the new way of displaying TNI I think is a very fair and efficient way of showing our latest best. It wets my appetite I would like to be able to scroll through all the TNI’s. Would a link to a TNI page be possible?

Trisbert, just go to the "new images" gallery and sort by c-index.

Thanks Tom, obvious really eh :-)

Ah - I see you've gone for three-and-three now.

Ooooh, I hadn't noticed that...pretty cool idea though ^_^

Thank you. I may have said it before, but the service here really is excellent :-)

good stuff ;)

Just spotted 'hypermode'. Has that been there for long?

no, I've just added it. We've been discussing it in the ... discussion forums recently.

I just noticed ppigeon's image "Shimmer" in the top-middle position on the front page. If I recall correctly (from reading most but not all of this thread), isn't the top left one the featured image and the rest are top new images? This image has been around a while; ppigeon gave me permission to use some of his pictures for my church's youth group a while back, and this was one that I used at the time (impying that it has been here a while as well). Maybe I just missed something about the organization of the front page.

its a little different now stuffs.. the top 3 are in permanant galleries.. the bottom 3 are TNI's