:o)

Well done people. 'Tis allll about the helping one another improve and understand 'art'.

Now then, go forth and propagate pixellry.

I shall wait here ...

Sounds pretty cool!I'm in

Link to "Negative Space" Contest Gallery

/\ Nicely ... and I do mean, nicely ... done. :o))

Hmm..Interesting..and i like the idea.

So do sillouettes count
I mean if they are again something ineresting?
Is that negative space?

I'm on it!! Just uploaded one.. best of luck to everyone else!

i would really like to compete and try to win

@ .aboogie ... to address your question about silhouettes.

I think silhouettes would count as long as it is the main focal point or subject within a positive space.

I believe a silhouette is not the same thing as 'negative space' in some cases. I may be wrong.

Here are a couple of links re: Negative Space

Enhancing Your Art With Negative Space

Composition / Negative Space

The first link goes into a little detail about using 'silhouettes' in relationship to negative space ... more precisely positive space. There are also some examples shown.

Hope this helps.

Best of luck to everyone. :-)

okay i think i got it. thanks a bunch

well, i tried and was immediately told that mine was not a negative space example. so, i for one don't get it. sorry to be such a dunce!

contest or contests there are two galleries at the moment??
The negative space concept is making me dizzy i'm really struggling to get a grasp of what meets the brief.
That, even after reading quite a bit and seeing numerous examples.
AARGH!!

I moved all contest entries in the "new images->Contests->Current Contest gallery". Link

@ captaindrewi:

The same matter was brought up in this discussion thread. Just a few bumps along the way.

Members should upload or submit their image to the "new images->Contests->Current Contest gallery".

Those images misplaced have been moved. (Thanks, Pierre.)


@ Jen; aka jeenie11: Your entry with the spider was quite good and fitting.

Now then, seems as some are struggling with the concept. Sherre; aka danika has provided a couple of excellent links (/\ six posts back /\) that explains the concept/theme.

Simplified, it is this ... "Negative space helps define a subject, and brings balance to a composition."

Getting back to the basics, in short.

Got it now?

Very interesting matter, Les. I'm a bit puzzled though ;-)

/\ That is a joke, ladies and gentlemen. Lol.

And by all means, pass along the message to others that the contest is now up and running. Efforts were made to apprise as many as possible. My apologies if anyone missed a PM.

How do you look at the contest gallery (Newbie question I know!)

@ ironcross1977:

Erik, there are now a couple of links in place (/\ up there somewhere /\) on this discussion/news announcement thread to view the contest galleries.

Here you go, to keep it simple:

Link to "Negative Space" Contest Gallery

No worries. :o)

Oo-la-la!! Sumpin' to dive into!!

NICE!!

I have the best idea!!!!! Are digital paintsing/photo manipulation allowed?

Got it! A photo of my check register's bottom line!

~opens wallet~

HEY!! Negative space!!

Sweet!!

~grabs camera~

Sounds like a great contest.

Hey Jazz... it has been almost a day now... and no answer, so I will answer your question... I am not involved in any way with Caedes or the contest, but from past practices, I would say any artistic method of creating an image would be accepted. :o)

Con?

Answered Jazz' question via a PM. In fact, unbeknownst to you she had PM'd me as well as posting to this discussion thread.

From the news announcement itself, at the header of this discussion:

"There is no limitation on the subject or genre of art ..."

You are indeed correct and thanks for the assist, your time is appreciated. :o)

A long read... but worth it (two pages!) [ Apogee Photo Magazine ]

Composition…
A Primer on Positive and Negative space.
By Michael Fulks

I can't paste the text here because it is accompanied by drawings which aid in understanding certain ideas. I believe it is rather easy to understand. It definitely is a good read! To give credit where it is due... Google > Flickr > ApogeePhoto.

Les¿ It's great being retired!!!

Edit: Oops! This is almost a repeat! Sherree has a link, above, to page 2.

So I did a little more searching... and found this site with contest pictures from four years ago... complete with #1-10 winners!
[ PBase.com ]

Nothing like a contest to chase away the winter blues and what a challenge with this one, especially as we are only allowed one entry this time...yikes!...great examples in Con's PBase link above and more can be found HERE...Good luck everyone.

Hey all,
Nice contest, think I might actually join this one, (~8
So then, would my avatar (to the left) be elegible?,
Or this (valentine) image (I think I previously posted this one to my gallery here, not so sure),

A great opportunity,

(going upstairs, fiddling around with some black wires, dark lenses, grimy cameras, and other obscure objects),

Hope to see great images around,

Kind regards
Tim

Hey Tim,

Nice to see you. Insofar as your questions regarding your avatar and the valentine image?

I believe you have posted both to the site here. So ...

Back to black wires, dark lenses, grimy cameras and other obscure objects for you. Lol.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up. Best of luck. :o)

p.s. Tip of the hat to Pat and Con. ConPat ... PatCon ... sounds like ... er, something?

:oP

I'd like to add something at this juncture ... an informational post of sorts for those not familiar with how the site contests are conducted.


Re: Voting and scoring of contest entries/submissions.

Your images will receive a C-Index rating ... as they will, in fact, go through the normal cycle of an image on the site here.

(Consideration is being given to exempt contest imagery from the 'voting booth' to avoid the confusion in the past, and future ... as a result of an image being scored twice, let's say. Not in place as of this writing, and not likely for this contest, however.)

The voting that takes place after the closing date for submissions has passed ... is the deciding vote. Not the C-Index that your image receives in the interim, prior to this contest voting stage.


Brief synopsis:

Contest closes.

Voting invitations are then extended to members, as this is indeed a peer groups' decision in the final analysis. Depending on the speed in which these are returned and in sufficient numbers (statistically speaking) ... the winning imagery is decided and published on a contest finals' winning gallery page. Preceded by a followup news announcement towards that end.


I am enjoying watching the entries as they come in. My confidence in the membership in producing fine quality submissions was not misplaced. Well done to all who have participated thus far.


And again, please pass the word along that the contest is up and running to whoever. I've noticed some of you have added words to that effect, in some of your commentaries placed on images. And I thank you for these assists.

Good luck to all ... and enjoy the creative challenge at hand. :o)

Hi Les, one last question : Is overlaying two images alowed?

No worries on that account, Raj. Looking forward to seeing the results. :o)

Les, is there only one entry per member or am I mistaken?

Yes, one per member this time.

Thanks, *caedes.

Ron; aka 0930_23 might have ... might have, been referring to an instance, wherein an artist had had two entries residing in the contest galleries. PM sent, apprised ... and now corrected.

excellent contest idea.. i might actually enter this one!

it would be cool if it was animal[i ment animals with negative space ] negative space

Well thanks for the PBase.com link, Con! That helped me more than anything else! They say pictures speak louder than words, and they sure did for me! This is gonna be fun!
Joanie

Toptastic, uploading now :)

Hi all, thought I'd try to help.. I have two images in my gallery which might illustrate the concept of "negative space"

first example

second example


Good luck to all in the contest

How do you find the contest, the links on the left brings to "oxymorons" contest

"How do you find the contest, the links on the left brings to "oxymorons" contest ".

Click on "New images" then "Contests" and you can see the photos of the current contest.

Tip of the hat to Rob; aka third_eye and Jerome; aka Genver for the assists and stepping in to answer some questions.

Muchly appreciated, gentlemen. :o)


Summary of the contest rules:

i) One entry per member.

Although, 'switching out' of entries/submissions is allowed. You may replace an entry by simply choosing 'edit' under your image's accompanying narrative ... move the one you are replacing to the appropriate gallery ... submit new entry. Govern this activity yourselves.

ii) No collaborative efforts for this contest.

iii) Members should upload or submit their image to the "new images->Contests->Current Contest gallery" (Found through the galleries drop down menu on the upload page(s) ).



And finally;

Link to "Negative Space" Contest Gallery


Lots of information contained on this announcement page .. /\ (*points up*) ... if you have a question that falls outside this discussion concerning the contest, feel free to PM me / 'Send a personal message' (button on profile page).

thanks heaps for the link.. i kept looking for the gallery for ages.

i am confident i have spotted the winners (although unfortunately i doubt i will be one of them).

a little surprising how many people have strayed from the theme although perhaps my mental definition is too narrow...

some excellent entries though

I just noticed there is less than 36 hours until the contest deadline.

If you haven't already done so there is still plenty of time to submit a contest entry.

As stated in the announcement ...

Deadline for submissions is March 16th, 2009 at 11:59 PM GMT.

Got that right, Sherree ... thank you for the assist and reminder. :o)


Down to the wire now ...

"Deadline for submissions is March 16th, 2009 at 11:59 PM GMT."


... ...

... ...


Holy crapperz!!

Today is the last day!!

Excuse me, got to run and ... er ... do stuff. Important .. stuff.

... ...

... ...

Brief synopsis of what will follow:

After the contest close ... invitations or voting notices will be sent out to the membership to participate in the determination of the winners.

So ...

Pay attention to your inboxes once the 16th is past and I thank you in advance for your time and consideration.


Any other questions, feel free to PM me.


Best of luck to all. :o)

** Contest Voting Requests have now been sent out. **

...................... !! Get Your Vote On !! ............................



Any questions, feel free to PM me.

And again, I thank you for your time and consideration. :o)

I have voted yet. The contest gallery is full of great entries. It was hard to decide. :)

Hey! I got my vote on! lol. I already had my 5 faves chosen. Took me about 3 hours to chose them though. Was a bit of a tough contest to judge. Just soooo many great entries. Best of luck to all that had entered! =)

3 hours !!! Ouch! I think you should follow your first thought and choose quickly... ;-)

I just finished voting. It was tough, because some of the images I found myself liking the most, weren't necessarily the best candidates for the contest, as described in the rules.

I have to say, though, that it really brought out a strong vein of creativity in alot of the members here. We should have contests more often :o)

Good luck to all who entered.

I 'got my vote on' also. Many good entries & some tough decisions made.

I agree with Rob on having contests more often as they seem to bring out alot of creativity.

Best of luck to everyone.

(*sets out a plate of his 'private stock' (Empire or Belgium cookies, to be specific) to provide some sustenance for the voters ...*)


Got jiggy with the decisions at hand, got my voting freak on ... and now?

I am looking, once more, at the contest galleries in their entirety.

Take a bow everyone. And a curtain call or two. Nicely ... done. :o)


My own contest voting workflow entailed opening all of the contest gallery pages, one by one (twelve to a page) ... side by side ... and then, choosing those images that stood out from their respective peer group's page.

Then ... again, side by side ... bearing in mind these words; "Your contest entry should Highlight the use of Negative Space in order to accentuate your subject" ... took some time to, literally, note the visual impact of each of those that remained in the running, if you will.

Took me about ... hmmm, an hour plus. Time well spent, as I echo the above words that this contest did indeed bring out some wonderful creativity from the membership. :o)


Looking forward to the reveal of the winners, all that is needed at this juncture is a goodly amount (statistically speaking) of votes to come in. So ...

Watch this front page for the follow-up news announcement that will lead to the winning participants' contest gallery.

Same Caedesian channel, same Caedesian URL ... coming soon ...

(*cues some relaxing and contemplative tunage for the task at hand ...*)

(*rereads his own post above ...*)

Wow, I do talk ... er, write a lot.

:oD

Thank you Les ... think I'll just sit back, get comfy, & wait for the winning images to be announced ... while enjoying some of those Empire or Belgium cookies, of course. Can't forget the music too.

;-))

*hijacks the cookies*

forget hijacking a thread...these are edible.. ;-)

Got Milk? lol

Hey not fair! Save me at least two of those. wtf! That songs just not as good without Belgium cookies. =(

Well, we can't have this now ... can we?

And by that I mean, Randy wasting away after getting his vote on. Three hours?


Methinks, he deserves some of ... these.

At $1,000 a serving ('Brownie Extraordinaire with Saint Louis from Tropicana Casino and Resort; Atlantic City, New Jersey') ... monies well spent for his considered efforts.


Now if you will excuse me, got to go deliver some newspapers. Someone has to pay for this stuff.

(*starts stretching the ol' throwing arm ... prior to his departure for his route ...*)


:oP

Hey! Now you're talkin'. lol. I'm a winner already! $1000 well spent...and no! I aint gonna share it! This is the best grand I ever ate, and at that price I'm taking the hot fudge syrup bottle with me. Just turn your head for only a sec!

I aint gotz no friends coz dey reads da papers. =P

Where's mine Les........I want some too.........I don't care if I deserve it or not.......gimme some......or I'll send a witch your way. ROFL :)

*swoops in on her witches broomstick* ... I'm the good witch of the Midwest.

John, I believe Les is sending us all to Atlantic City, NJ ... after he finishes delivering newspapers.

;-))

Think positive! =P

I already know who won people & I'm here to announce it ......


it was ME !!!!!

Yes, I'm the first Place Winner of the Negative Space Contest. I didn't enter so what could be more negative of a space that THAT ?!?!?!?!


*bows to thundering applause*


Thank you, thank you, yes it was difficult, but through diligence, creativity & yes, hard work it was able to come together & I was able to produce & enter ......nothing.


;-)

Yayness for Lauren!!!

-----------------------------

Places a plate of cookies & a glass of milk out for Les ... just in case he's hungry & thirsty after doing his paper route.

Then Randy has the right idea ... think positive ... I'm sure the contest results will be announced very soon.

*crosses fingers & toes*

Yes ... er, well Lauren was the 'unofficial unofficially declared unofficial winner of the contest' ... ahem ... behind some padded doors, by the judges.

:oP


Oh, and sorry John ... I had made a fresh batch of brownies to make up for you not being in on the $1,000 ones. But ... I was famished after getting back from my route. Still have ... hmmm, let's see ... ... yep, the rest of the world to go.

Gotta hit the road again ...

(*John's expression ... caught in a fleeting glance as I head out the door and he hears the news about the brownies ...*)

Public Service Announcement from the caedes.net Administrators:

"soon"   /sun/

–adverb, -er, -est.

1. within a short period after this or that time, event, etc.: We shall know soon after he calls.
2. before long; in the near future; at an early date: Let's leave soon.

/\ Yeah, that fits. :oP

So... what'd I win ? Huh Les ? Well huh ? Huh ?

All I know is... it'd better be Officially good ! Unofficially that is.

Um, the booby prize?
>:o)

Lauren's 'unofficial officially good good prize'.

;o)

(/\ This makes it more exciting, doncha fink? :oP)

I think Lauren raises an interesting paradox - to win a prize about negative space puts you in a positive space, and would thus automatically disqualify you for being so bloody cheerful.

Hmmm ... a rather valid point of view that had not been considered, John.


(*takes back Lauren's 'unofficial officially good good prize' ... hands her a mop and bucket instead ...*)

Now ... make sure you get into the corners. Particularly, the Offtopics. That one is tough to keep clean ...

:oP

May I have the results pls.

Me too plz, I think it's about time ;o)

Hang in there ... and until that fateful time, here yous go ...

:o)

Here's another song for world peace LOL

** "We're sorry, this video is no longer available."

... ...

... ...

Buuuut ... if any .. ahem, guy .. wants a copy of said video ... email Chris ... and 5 Euros. ;o)

** Note: 'Whew! Close call!', said the caedes administrative team.

:oP

If this video is not available (here it still is) then search for 'Rodney Carrington´s - Show Them To Me' @ http://www.youtube.com ;o)

KK i hope i have picked the winner.

i think it's the best by a mile!

@ Chris.....still available here too....lol...great vid :o)))))

Okay I have chewed off all my fingernails waiting for the outcome of this "Nail Biter" of a contest.... Please hurry as I may start gnawing on my computer desk at any moment!!! :o)

Stan

Here, Stan ... I will loan you a couple of fingers ...

:oP

Why thank you. A few more nails to keep my nerves in check! LOL!

"Soon" is what my parents used to say to us 3 bored boys on the back seat of the car, when there was hours to go before we arrived at a holiday destination.

I'm just waiting to read .."the results are just around the next bend...."

Then I'll know that there's still a month of Sundays to go.

Anyone up for a game of I-spy while we wait?

I spy, with my little eye....something beginning with ... B

Is it Bulls***? LOL

Perhaps it is a Bald Eagle! :o)

Sorry - both wrong.

As Les was saying "takes back Lauren's 'unofficial officially good good prize' ... hands her a mop and bucket instead ...Now ... make sure you get into the corners. Particularly, the Offtopics... "

The B was for Broomstick - I was thinking about picking it up, so I could sweep around the bits Lauren missed.


{whiney voice used to annoy parents} "Are we nearly there yet?"

Awaiting word ... stay tuned ...


'I spy with my little eye, something that starts with the letter ... 'C' ...'

(*thinks to self ...*)

'They'll never get this one ... '

(*chuckles to hisownself ... munches on a cookie ...*)

:oP

C..yanide?

C..index?

(I'm up for a debate as to which has a higher toxicity :P)

Some sort of idea as to when the results will be known/reported might be a good thing.. :o)

I was awarded the highly unimpressive C-index of 9 the other day, that puts me in negative space; maybe I should offer that shot up for consideration to the current contest?

Gotcha beat... I once got a 1... which is how many days Les has left to live if we don't in the intervening time get the contest results...

kidding, Les, just kidding... ;-)) see ya in the Offtopics...

hmm tricky eye-spy.. is it..hmm.. wait

COOKIE

C for "Consolation" prize?

C is for Coffee to go with those Cookies =P

C is for Caedes, whom has the results!!! :o)

Stan

C is for Cute...lol

:oD

M is for its been a month since the closing date of the competion! lol!!

Annnnnnd ...

'M' stands for Mutiny.

PM *caedes ... as I don't have any answers.

>:oD

Annnnnd ... the results ... are in. :o))