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New Site design public critique

*caedes
09/13/04 1:27 AM GMT
I have taken a little time to code up the new site design in xhtml. As this is the first page I've ever made that adhears to the xhtml 1.0 spec I'd like some feadback on the quality of the job that I've done. Note that I've already verified that the markup validates according to w3c.org.

Main xhtml page
Layout CSS file
Font CSS file
Thumbnail CSS file

I've only been testing the design with Firefox and IE (5.0 I think), so I'm particularly interested in how the page looks in various browsers, so if you see someting odd just post me a screenshot of the problem. Thanks.
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+camerahound
09/13/04 1:35 AM GMT
Very clean look (with Firefox 0.10). Color scheme does not distract. Excellent layout, not too busy. Will await the navigation aspects with interest. And your Latin is much better than mine (quod erat demon- strandum).

27 Sep 04: Upon new inspection, the page does seem slightly off-center biased to the left. The 'smite member' option engenders a strange and oddly appealing fascination.
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"Success is getting what you like. Happiness is liking what you get." -anonymous
::CanoeGuru
09/13/04 2:00 AM GMT
Well, you can see how it looks with IE 6.02 here. A few strange things going on with the layout it seems.
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"Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night" - Edgar Allan Poe
SageIdiot
09/13/04 3:34 AM GMT
I liked the "Smite Member" link under your username.
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mimi5947
09/13/04 4:29 AM GMT
I opend with IE 6.0 & it looked the same as CanoeGuru's...something not quite right with the layout! :~)
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Always, Mimi
+mayne
09/13/04 4:30 AM GMT
Looks like a bright new shiny vroom vroom in Mozilla 1.7.2. Can hardly wait to take it on the road;-)
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Darryl
=xentrik
09/13/04 4:54 AM GMT
In creaky, old Mozilla 1.3.1, it shows the same problem as IE 6.0.2. Does this mean the latest IE is only as good as Mozilla from a year ago? Meanwhile, I concur that it looks incredibly cool on Firefox 0.9.1 & 0.9.3.
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co2metal
09/13/04 5:29 AM GMT
i'm using Opera 7.54 and i also get the same problem
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keepin' it real
co2metal
09/13/04 5:37 AM GMT
also tried on mozilla firefox 0.9.2 and i get the problem
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keepin' it real
mum42
09/13/04 12:42 AM GMT
ditto the IE6 prob.
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never give up
+Piner
09/13/04 5:27 PM GMT
Looks real good in Safari. :c)
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The work of art may have a moral effect, but to demand moral purpose from an artist is to make him ruin his work. (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - 1832)
*caedes
09/13/04 5:59 PM GMT
That's funny... I tried Safari on my laptop (newest version) and it was having problems. =\
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-caedes
Crusader
09/13/04 6:15 PM GMT
I also have the IE6 problem. Also another thing, I know it's early days, but when viewed at 800x600 the site is a bit too wide and requires horisontal scrolling.
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::CaptainHero
09/13/04 6:55 PM GMT
Personally I wouldn't code the site for a 800x600 size - surely most people will be using 1024x768+

I have the same problem with IE6 - positioning looks weird on the nav menus as per rebecca's pic. Also (as per the pic again) the href links under the user profile are showing text decoration and the hover doesn't seem to work.
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." Bertrand Russell
::stuffnstuff
09/13/04 8:29 PM GMT
To start off, it does look very nice. It looks awkward, only because it is different, but much more clean and professional (not that it is bad now). For some reason, it reminds me of those fancy futuristic cars in "Minority Report" and "i, Robot". Just a little difficulty reading the text...

I apologize, I have no idea how to check what kind of browser I have, but if someone could explain, i could give it to you. It has the same problem on mine as the others, the off centered buttons and links.

I hate to mention it here, but what is xhtml? I know barely anything about it before they x appeared. I hate to bother the "pros" with dumb questions...
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-those who hit rock bottom are too concerned with self pity to realize that they are lying on an anvil- Psalm 66:10, Job 10:8
::CanoeGuru
09/13/04 8:40 PM GMT
With Microsoft Internet Explorer you can check your browser version by clicking on "Help" inthe toolbar and then "About Internet Explorer" I would hazard to guess it would be a similar process in other browsers as well.
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"Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night" - Edgar Allan Poe
*caedes
09/13/04 8:49 PM GMT
XHTML is a new html specification that is XML compliant.

I think that it is odd that IE 5.0 works fine and IE 6 is broken. Usually software get MORE compliant with later releases. Unless of course it is something that I've done incorrectly which is the problem. Any idea from those who have looked at the code?
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-caedes
::CaptainHero
09/13/04 8:58 PM GMT
If you don't know what your browser is, stuffnstuff, the chances are that it is IE.

I believe that XHTML (extensible hypertext markup language) is the next step from HTML 4. It is effectively HTML 4 written as an XML application. Other than that, I know not.
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." Bertrand Russell
::stuffnstuff
09/13/04 9:21 PM GMT
Yes, Matthew, I have IE 6 (rounded). :-) I am sorry to get in the way, continue.
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-those who hit rock bottom are too concerned with self pity to realize that they are lying on an anvil- Psalm 66:10, Job 10:8
MiLo_Anderson
09/13/04 9:31 PM GMT
to be redundaent I have the same problem at school. It looks like its going to be awesome thought. But there is the bell so im out of here
See ya:P
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LiquidguitarJP
09/13/04 9:59 PM GMT
I have safari and it looked just fine. Thanks Caedes for putting your time in to this. Looking great!
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::CanoeGuru
09/14/04 12:48 AM GMT
Viewed with Mozilla Firefox 0.9.3 everything looks hunky dory ;) Can't wait til it's implemented. It looks great.
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"Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night" - Edgar Allan Poe
::trisweb
09/15/04 4:53 AM GMT
The layout's working fine in Firefox (1.0PR -- just released! go get it!). You're right that it's funky in IE, and in some other browsers. I'm sure we can fix it up well. :)
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::philcUK
09/15/04 2:57 PM GMT
yep tried it in Safari and it looked a little funky like certain areas tiling/repeating oddly.
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+Samatar
09/16/04 12:04 AM GMT
Also I am having trouble reading the text...


JK ;-)
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+WinterNight
09/16/04 3:54 AM GMT
Yea, looks really good. Except I get the same look others get with IE6. Doesn't quiet look right. But after that's fixed, its going to look great.
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-WinterNight
cemkarahan
09/16/04 6:32 PM GMT
i posted you the screeshot of the problem... ;)
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*caedes
09/16/04 8:33 PM GMT
Ok, thanks for the screenshots. We're going to try to fix the IE6 issue and post the next iteration soon.
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-caedes
+Samatar
09/26/04 11:44 PM GMT
I have the same problem in Safari as well.
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-Everyone is entitled to my opinion-
::jono00
09/28/04 8:21 AM GMT
Yupyup Firefox 1 works fine, but IE at school is messed up.
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Ciao!
::Raziel252
09/29/04 3:45 PM GMT
From the look of it (and it does look very good at that) the new design doesn't bring any new features to the site really, so its just re design of the layout and presentation not the content. Am I right? Because if there are new features I'd like to know about them!
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"No, your not the first to fall apart, but you're alwasy the firstto complain. You better be careful or you'll compromise everything you are."
*caedes
09/29/04 9:18 PM GMT
It's mainly a layout redesign. Features come later.
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-caedes
::Raziel252
09/30/04 9:21 AM GMT
Nice one Guvnor!
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