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How do I black out the bg behind a flower etc?

::verenabloo
09/27/05 6:16 AM GMT
I really need help with something. There are times I used to use my PSP for blacking out the area behind a rose etc...and I cant seem to find HOW to do this with my Photoshop, can anyone help me with this? I have even read the pages in the book..but cannot seem to figure it out in PHotoshop and not in PSP either...please? help? thanxx
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=Piner
09/27/05 9:27 AM GMT
You make a new layer, select that whole layer, fill it with black, and then place that layer under your image layer.
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+Samatar
09/27/05 11:15 AM GMT
http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Caedes::Infopage&image=ubermeister-1099536762.jpg

Basically use the same steps but just have black in the background rather than the b+w image in the tutorial.
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::verenabloo
09/28/05 12:39 AM GMT
well, I'll try, but I have never used the layer thing..before...you all make it sound so easy..but gosh..this is so totally NEW to me....
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+Samatar
09/28/05 1:03 AM GMT
Once you understand layers you will discover that PS is a -much- more powerful tool than you realise.
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miner_dad
09/30/05 2:18 AM GMT
tryin to gather artistic ability!....like ripping off the other leg!
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::kjh000
09/30/05 11:04 AM GMT
lol!!! What happened to the first leg? (I sincerely hope this is only a joke... and not corresponding to any real events...)
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co2metal
09/30/05 10:39 PM GMT
lol..
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heidlerr
10/02/05 10:13 PM GMT
Another way would be to cover some foam core art board with balck velvet and place it behind the subject when you take the photograph. That way you don't have to remove anything in photoshop. It can also be done with a flash metered on the subject and the background going dark because it is out of the flash range.
Russ
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::verenabloo
10/05/05 9:31 PM GMT
well I use black velvet but when I am out and about I dont do that...most things I take pics of are farther away from me aNd I caN always make a "setting' like that...but I want to "edit" some of my photos...my old PSP 7 did a great job, but I cant seem to figure out how the new one I have now does it....why do they have to change something that works?? sheesh..Ive done the flash metho too...I just want to add a dark bg to some of my older photos...
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::DrPepper89
11/16/05 1:49 AM GMT
I use Gimp and all I do is use fuzzy select to get the big chunks of the photo that arn't flower...and then I take my black eraser and erase everything else away...then I use a blur tool and go around all the edges to make them a bit softer....it's time consuming and may not be perfect...but I kinda like the results. Not sure how that will help with Photoshop....I'm clueless about that. =) Sorry.
-Laurel
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::verenabloo
11/19/06 5:35 PM GMT
No matter how I try I cant seem to master any of this....so sorry for my "blondeness.".:(
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&Crusader
11/20/06 6:00 PM GMT
By "black out" do you want a totally black background or just a B&W one? If you only want a B&W one, the decolor tutorial might help.
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forgotmypassword
11/20/06 9:19 PM GMT
From the question i would say she wants the whole background blacked out...
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::J_272004
11/20/06 9:33 PM GMT
I've already told you how to do it if you couldnt work out Photoshop... You get a blank canvas, fill it with black.. then copy and paste the pic you want onto it.. then erase the background.. the black layer will become the background of your pic...
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::third_eye
11/20/06 9:43 PM GMT
have you tried..crayons?
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::J_272004
11/20/06 9:52 PM GMT
hehehe...
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::verenabloo
11/20/06 11:25 PM GMT
Yes, the WHOLE background blacked out....crayons eh? smartipants LOL...
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.animaniactoo
11/20/06 11:35 PM GMT
Verena, if you're working with Photoshop.

1) Create a duplicate layer with your image on it
2) Fill the background layer with black.
3) Go to your channel palette, and create a new channel. This will give you a new channel as a red overlay on your image.
4) Use the eraser and delete the portions of the channel that you want to keep in your image.
5) If you erase a bit too much, use the paintbrush to add it back in
6) Once you have it perfected, make a selection of the channel
7) Go back to your layers palette, and make sure you're on the layer with your image
8) Under the Layer menu, go to "Add Layer Mask > Reveal Selection", this should knock out the portions of the image you don't want, leaving the black background below.

The advantage of this method is that it is repeatedly editable and you keep all of your original image, you're just hiding the portions you don't want.
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&Crusader
11/22/06 10:00 PM GMT
Well Verena if you can hold out till Friday, I might have a step-by-step tutorial available for you. It should be easy enough to follow and not too complicated. I just have to finish it up and get the images to match the steps.
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.animaniactoo
11/22/06 11:04 PM GMT
LOL! *ditches tonite's plans for the "Working with Layer Masks" tutorial 8•D
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&KEIFER
11/23/06 2:25 AM GMT
(*scratches self*) .. wha? .. huh? ... oh, did we have homework this weekend?
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+Samatar
11/23/06 2:34 AM GMT
There is no "easy" way to do this Verena. You need to have alot of patience and practice before you will be able to do it effectively with anything but simple shapes.
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::WENPEDER
11/23/06 4:01 AM GMT
LOL! Verena, here's the easiest way I can think of.

First, open your image. Then, go to the menu bar along the top of your screen and click on WINDOW to get a drop down menu. Make sure that LAYERS is checked and then find the layers box on the right side of your screen. You will see your "background image" that you want to work with in the Layers box. Double click on your Background Image in the layers box and another box will come up that will allow you to make it a LAYER rather than a background. Do that.

Second, Go to the top menu bar again and click LAYER to get the drop down menu. You'll see "New" at the top of the drop down menu...Follow NEW over to the right where it says "layer" (for "new layer") and select it. A New Layer will appear in the Layer Box on the right of your screen ABOVE your original layer.

Next, pick a FOREGROUND color that you want for a background in your image in the tool menu at the left of your screen. I'm going to assume you know how to set your foreground color...if not, let me know and I'll explain.

Fourth, go back to the LAYER BOX and click on your new layer so that it is highlighted. Then go to EDIT on the top menu bar and click on FILL in the drop down menu. It will allow you to select the foreground color to fill in your new layer. Do that.

The foreground color will now be covering your picture...but not for long. LOL!

Next, right click on your new layer and a menu will pop up that allows you to select "blending options." In the "blending options" box, move the "OPACITY" bar to the left so that you can see both the underlying layer and the new layer (about 70% will probably work to start with.) THEN go to the left tool menu and select the ERASER tool. Make your image big enough and your eraser size small enough so that you can be fairly precise in the part of the colored overlay that you erase...and go to it, slowly erasing to see the part of the underlying image you want to see. If your erase too much, go to EDIT and take a step backwards. You can change the amount of opacity of the colored overlay layer, eventually bringing it back to 100% for total saturation.

Hope that helps...Good luck! Wen
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&Crusader
11/25/06 3:14 PM GMT
Well here as promised is the How to create a black background tutorial a.k.a. a quick lesson in quick mask mode.

It might need some refinement still, so if there's any questions or opinions just shout. Verena, I hope this helps.
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::third_eye
11/25/06 3:21 PM GMT
hey great tutorial,thanks
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::J_272004
11/26/06 6:51 AM GMT
Wow that is so easy even I can understand it.. thanks KJ
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