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Photoshop?

ElectraSky
03/10/06 2:09 PM GMT
I have photoshop and everything on my computer, and either I am just completely unaware of its possibilities or it is limited... Maybe I just don't get it.
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::Hottrockin
03/10/06 3:38 PM GMT
There are two things in life Rachel that have unlimited possibilities...Photoshop and gravy. Mmmm, gravy!!

Anyway...did you have a question that someone might assist you with regarding Photoshop?

Cheers!! :~)
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.animaniactoo
03/10/06 3:42 PM GMT
Yup, for most things there are about 14 ways to accomplish it in Photoshop. What are you trying to do?
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&trisbert
03/10/06 4:13 PM GMT
Photoshop has a difficult learning curve because it does nothing for you. You have to tell it what to do. The trick is knowing what to tell it. It does however have a very comprehensive help system and there are tons of tutorials on the web. If you tell us what you’re trying to do, we might be able to give you a few pointers.
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There are three colours, Ten digits and seven notes, its what we do with them that’s important. Ruth Ross
.KEIFER
03/10/06 4:22 PM GMT
Photoshop is considered by many to be the industry standard .. If you're going to do professional graphics work in a design\print studio ... you're likely going to be using photoshop

even if it's just to copy your bosses signature over onto the fraudulent check you've ginned up
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.animaniactoo
03/10/06 4:31 PM GMT
YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO TELL
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One man sees things and says "why?", but I dream things that never were and say "why not?"
.KEIFER
03/10/06 5:40 PM GMT
ooops! .. uh .. my eraser is worn down to the nub .. I would just tear up the paper if I tried to erase it

YOU do it .. quick .. 'tain't nobody looking
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+mayne
03/11/06 1:34 AM GMT
Too late I caught you! *places pointy cap atop your head* Just start pushing buttons and clicking things...you'll soon learn what works and what doesn't. Practice, practice, practice;-)
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Darryl
.animaniactoo
03/11/06 1:37 AM GMT
uh… sorry boss! It was just an experiment. *innocent face* I was simply trying to find out if it was possible to protect your interests.
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One man sees things and says "why?", but I dream things that never were and say "why not?"
+Cain
03/11/06 6:13 PM GMT
Photoshop is everything but limited. but yes it can be confusing at times. Here, try this : www.pixel2life.com. It's a site which contains a huge database of tutorials of many programs, including photoshop.^^
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::dreamer100
03/12/06 12:19 AM GMT
That's a good looking site Lucy. Saved to favorites for further exploration.
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::laurengary
03/12/06 2:31 AM GMT
I saved it to favorites too, thanks Lucy for the tip, I really appreciate it !
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+camerahound
03/12/06 5:19 AM GMT
I'm not saying PhotoShop will replace all mankind -- only most of it. Learn... and live.
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&prismmagic
03/13/06 1:09 AM GMT
Photoshop is only the industry standard because it is the most advertised and the most given away to pros to support it. Corel is by far a more advanced and creative program. It is just so large that know one wants to take the time to learn it. consider this you can the full Photoshop suit in a 6 week course and it takes 362 hour to learn the ends and out of Corel suite. I will be taking the full Corel course by next year and at the end of that I will most likely say good by to photshop.
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Art is the perception of the creator. Meaning is the perception of the viewer. acceptance is the perception of society.
::philcUK
03/13/06 6:19 PM GMT
You may be able to take a six week course in Photoshop but i wouldn’t say you would be fully proficient in it by then. I have used many retouching suites over the years aside from both Corel and Adobe including Alias Eclipse, Barco Creator, Scitex Prismax, Dalim etc and have always come back to Photoshop for a variety of reasons, primarily familiarity, flexibility and functionality. Just looking at face value at the latest release of Corel it has only just acquired features that have been standard in Photoshop for at least 3 versions and the scope to expand it and customise it is significantly less. Ultimately though it is much more than feature comparisons, many other factors have hampered Corel other than Adobe's apparent altruism.

Corel have consistently fallen foul of their user base because of their notoriety at dropping and deleting product lines and then offering very little support for previous versions. Equally worrying is the stability of the company itself. In recent years alone, Corel has filed for bankruptcy protection twice that I can remember and seam to be in the mood to do little to improve their situation. Historically they seam to prefer to drop and replace products completely - to be replaced by new products produced by acquisition rather than development. Perhaps of more direct importance to users is customer support, another area in which Corel pales next to Adobe. Ultimately it is at the discretion of the user as to which package they prefer and decide to go with – both manufacturers offer free try before you buy solutions to test run their software – but I certainly wouldn’t contemplate dropping Photoshop in favour of another package if I already owned it.
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::philcUK
03/13/06 8:58 PM GMT
as a footnote to all that ramble I'd have to say that Photoshop has earned its place as the industry standard through two decades of development and integration from its conception as Display/ImagePro to where it is today - constantly refined and developed to work seamlessly with PostScript - the language used throughout the design and prepress industry for document processing and output and has consistenly outclassed and outlived all comers along the way :-)
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&prismmagic
03/14/06 7:39 AM GMT
Ok Phil I'm not going to argue the point with you, so point taken. But along the lines of capability and extensive capability of the coral suites . Many of the things in the Coral programs that are standard in there suites are called a plug-in on Photoshop. And by the way I have three version of Corel and I have used and loved each one as they were introduced. I see very little improvement on Adobe. They introduce Cs and then Cs 2 to fix the problems.

But I will say that Photoshop is an easer system to use but limited in many ways compared to Corel. The thing I have noticed about Photoshop is that they have a tendency to give many face lifts and keep charging for the same thing over and over. In the U.S.A a few years back a lot of artist almost gave up on Photoshop for Corel. For instance Photoshop only accepts 2 gigs of ram and 2.78 if you go in and tweak your system. Corel on the other hand will accept as much Ram as you can throw at it. Which so far I have 8 Gigs of pc 133 registered Ram in my computer on a server board with dual Opteron’s running window 64 and it registers all 8 GIGs and use’s it. Will Adobe do that?
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Art is the perception of the creator. Meaning is the perception of the viewer. acceptance is the perception of society.
::philcUK
03/14/06 6:07 PM GMT
I think we've covered this before - the ram cap went with CS2 - im running a quad core G5 at the clients im at now with the full 16 GB of RAM installed and I currently have around 4GB assigned to Photoshop - whether this is just on the mac version or PC - I couldnt say for sure. So yes - they will do that.

As i said though its different strokes for different folks and Ive been left high dry by Corel either going bust or pulling a product and refusing to support it anymore once too often to trust them again. but thats just me. :-)
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=Piner
03/14/06 6:20 PM GMT
Photoshop can use up to 8 gigs of RAM on Macs
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&prismmagic
03/14/06 6:29 PM GMT
I thought that you were the one that brought it to every one attention that Adobe would only run 2 gigs and on either system.
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Art is the perception of the creator. Meaning is the perception of the viewer. acceptance is the perception of society.
::philcUK
03/14/06 7:17 PM GMT
Nope :-)
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::Surfcat
03/15/06 8:42 PM GMT
I had to think back to when I started using photoshop. Boy I didn't have a clue. I just started playing with it trying to figure it out and slowly got better with it. Now days there are many more online resources that you can try. I did a google search for photoshop beginner and found some free tutorials. Here's one from about.com

I hope this is helpful

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.andy721
03/15/06 10:44 PM GMT
Mainy you just have to experiment with the pictures using different size brushes and adjusting the colours and exposures, same with shadows and sharpness, with blur. You have the ultimate tool. Photoshop is really easy after fiddeling around with it for a week or so. depending on your learning skills if you are a fast learner with computer litterate techniques. Tablets with photoshop is golden, it's so much better than a mouse. but with photography its different you can use a mouse too, sense the table can get into the smallest crevases. anyways experiment with the different things you can do with filters effects and so on. Enjoy.

PS: heres a site on how to get started with photoshop. PhotoShop CS2 is highly recommended.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/adobephotoshopcs2/
or
http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/photoshopcs2lessons/

Andy
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tpczx6
03/16/06 4:56 AM GMT
Hi I just found this site. love all the 3d art. so a lot of this is done with photoshop?? I have photoshop elements4.0 will it do it also

thanks for all the input.


Tim
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+mayne
03/16/06 6:27 AM GMT
Yes, E4 will do it also:-)
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Darryl
.animaniactoo
03/16/06 3:58 PM GMT
OK, so i'm a little late to the party, but here's my 2 cents

While I'm currently doing more art, I've also worked as a professional color corrector/retoucher/master photo manipulator, and this is my experience. I'm not familiar with Corel, in large part because for a long time their Mac support/cross platforming was lousy, so I never got into it. I've been working with Photoshop since version 2.5, and since the advent of layers in version 3.0, I've never had a problem getting it to do almost anything I wanted. Every upgrade has increased flexibility and added actually beneficial features. I'm not sure what you meant about releasing new versions only to fix previous problems Clay. While certain things have been improved as time goes by, I have yet to see an upgrade for Photoshop or most Adobe products that did not contain significant new features.

The only problem I currently have with Photoshop is that some of the filters only work in either RGB or CMYK mode, they don't all work in both, and frankly, for the filters that I'm talking about which are the artistic effects ones, it's a minor headache, not a major one. The change of color handling was a major deal which was somewhat botched, but we've managed to get over that and move on now. There's always things in every program that can be improved, and Adobe's been pretty good about responding to market demand, from both customer complaint and requested features. I have no problem investing my moola there and continuing to grow with them.

And yes Tim… (here's my actual gripe/DOH moment) since E4 is actually just one of the earlier versions of Photoshop repackaged… It will give you all of the basic functions and some pretty trimmings, just not all the current bells & whistles. 8•)
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One man sees things and says "why?", but I dream things that never were and say "why not?"
::philcUK
03/16/06 6:05 PM GMT
most of the funtionality of earlier versions of PS is there in Elements but they have hidden a lot of it to make it less obvious :-)
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linda_0
03/16/06 10:46 PM GMT
I love web tutorials and bulletin boards for help, but when I really start to use a program and want a reference at hand, I love the "Bibles" published by Wiley. Illustrator Bible and Photoshop Bible are my favorite resource, though a little costly.
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.nmsmith
03/18/06 3:38 AM GMT
If any of you are interested, I've used SnapzPro on my Mac to do some video tutorials about basic selection methods in photoshop and some things to do with them. The videos are online and done in Quicktime. I gave a workshop last week. There are some great tutorial links there too
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.nmsmith
03/18/06 3:39 AM GMT
Guess I'd better give you the address...

http://teacherlink.ed.usu.edu/nmsmithpages/presentations/BasicPhotoshopTechniques/
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.KEIFER
03/18/06 3:51 AM GMT
Thanks Nathan


Cat .. did you have to walk across the rice paper without breaking it to be a Master Photo Manipulator? .... I always balked at that test .. the sweat was pouring off of me so profusely that it was weakening the paper ... how did you manage?
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.animaniactoo
03/20/06 12:44 AM GMT
Talcum Powder… here… wanna borrow mine? 8•P
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One man sees things and says "why?", but I dream things that never were and say "why not?"
tbstsu
03/24/06 7:58 AM GMT
Hi guys...its my first day here!! Anyways, I just wanted to know if there was another type of software besides Photoshop that I could use to resize my pictures so I can upload some!
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.KEIFER
03/24/06 8:09 AM GMT
Sure ... ;o) ...

oh! ... you wanted me to mention them? .. sorry

Free and Open-Source Softwares

I recomend
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.KEIFER
03/24/06 8:13 AM GMT
Sure ... ;o) ...

oh! ... you wanted me to mention them? .. sorry

Free and Open-Source Softwares

I recomend irfanview .. It's a FREE image viewer that does a lot of things

or

The GIMP .. (also FREE) .. if, maybe, you consider yourself more advanced




oooops .. that's what you get for putting the "post" buttun right next to where I'm tryin' to "paste"

post vs paste .. I get confused
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&trisbert
03/24/06 10:10 AM GMT
I suggest you have a look at PhotoFiltre, it's the closest thing you can get to photoshop for zero dollars.
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There are three colours, Ten digits and seven notes, its what we do with them that’s important. Ruth Ross

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