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Dust! What dust?

.zorrofox
10/09/06 5:30 PM GMT
I just found this video of the new self-cleaning mechanism on Canon's new SLR. I need to start saving now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P8_LNmpFSc&eurl=
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::third_eye
10/09/06 5:45 PM GMT
i forgot which thread it's on, but i believe &Trisbert said the Olympus cameras do it better and have done it longer...
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&philcUK
10/09/06 6:06 PM GMT
yeah but Canon also has that tricky software for identifying and eliminating dust that does make it past the cleaning system :-)
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A smart bomb is only as clever as the idiot that tells it what to do……si vis pacem para bellum.
&KEIFER
10/09/06 7:28 PM GMT
i mean .. come on .. how big is the sensor, really .. a postage stamp? ... I just stick my finger in there and rub it around .. "voila" .. no more dust

what is the world coming to?

:o)
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&philcUK
10/09/06 7:36 PM GMT
maybe you could run with that as a mobile business venture :-)
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&KEIFER
10/09/06 7:51 PM GMT
downwardly mobile?
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&philcUK
10/09/06 7:54 PM GMT
who can say - just take out some liability insurance beforehand....
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.zorrofox
10/09/06 9:31 PM GMT
I thought it sounded like a great idea but it could be viewed as just one more thing to get wrong. Still, pretty cool tech all the same. I was aware Olympus had a similar system but this one is supposed to be better. Also, I have a soft spot for Canon.
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::third_eye
10/09/06 10:00 PM GMT
(sigh) so who's going to give phil away at the wedding?
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::noahnott
10/09/06 10:33 PM GMT
...i still think the clone stamp in photoshop is more economical. ;-)
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&philcUK
10/09/06 10:37 PM GMT
well i havent seen the auto dust removal software in action but if its any good id fail to see how doing somethin manually is more economical than an auto function but I guess the key words there were 'if its any good'
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::third_eye
10/09/06 10:38 PM GMT
for the uneducated like myself, a clone stamp would be like cut and paste, but just a piece or a chunk of an image?
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&philcUK
10/09/06 10:43 PM GMT
pretty much
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.MiLo_Anderson
10/09/06 10:58 PM GMT
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No one wanted to pay to say something in my sig, so i will have to try and think of something creative now...
::third_eye
10/09/06 11:03 PM GMT
and if that isn't enough..try this
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.zorrofox
10/09/06 11:17 PM GMT
Excellent! Nice one.
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.Jeffo
10/13/06 3:33 AM GMT
lintless disposable cloths and methyol hydrate. there you go you have a dustless, oilless (is that a word) sensor

wow i used less a lot
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::third_eye
10/13/06 9:48 AM GMT
a fine example of 'less being more'... well, sort of... lol
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lately, i've fallen horribly behind in my thanks and comments. I'll catch up, but until I do, please know all your kind words are greatly appreciated.
&trisweb
10/18/06 11:27 PM GMT
" i forgot which thread it's on, but i believe &Trisbert said the Olympus cameras do it better and have done it longer... " -- I think that was me?

Yep, Olympus' system is much better from initial tests I read and they've had it for four years. My E-500 never needs its sensor cleaned, ever, and I change lenses like a madman.

Hopefully the canon one performs for people :)
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®mar
10/19/06 7:51 PM GMT
I have an Olympus E-300, and I didn't even realize that CCD dust was a problem. I have never seen a piece of dust on my sensor show up on or affect an image of mine. I also have the lens quick-change problem.
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&KEIFER
10/26/06 7:24 PM GMT
I don't know if this is pertinent to this discussion ... but .. apparently CANON advertises FREE sensor cleaning (I don't know) ...here are a couple rebuttals

Canon "free" cleaning

$190 to clean the sensor?


that's right folks .. 180.00 is the NEW free .. just like pink is the new black ..
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&philcUK
10/26/06 7:34 PM GMT
i just use a giottos rocket air for routine cleaning these days and if things are really bad which is rare I turn to a VisibleDust Arctic Butterfly - both of which work really well.
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+mayne
10/26/06 11:41 PM GMT
Super charged fibers work wonders...90 dollars is cheap compared to Canons service.
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Darryl
&philcUK
10/27/06 11:13 AM GMT
indeed - I decided to get one after I enquired with Canons service centre in London about sensor cleaning and the guy on the service desk actually told me to buy one of the Arctic Butterfly cleaners and save myself a packet.
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.ffxfireman
10/28/06 11:12 PM GMT
I also have an E-300 and even though it has a built-in sensor cleaning system, i managed to get the CCD dirty. Found a place near where i live (very reliable according to a couple of professional photographer that i know) and they charge $65 for the cleaning, although it would take a couple of days. I don't think i would venture into trying to clean it by myself. $65 is a whole lot cheaper than $800.
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.MiLo_Anderson
10/29/06 12:25 AM GMT
How did you manage to get dust on one that cleans it self. That is interesting.
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No one wanted to pay to say something in my sig, so i will have to try and think of something creative now...
&KEIFER
10/29/06 12:43 AM GMT
If I may be so bold (read = obtuse) ... how does a 'self cleaning' widget work ..

some kind of static charge ?

a pair of lips blowing after every shot ?

a mini zamboni ?

........ I will hang up and listen to your answer .. (*click*)
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+mayne
10/29/06 12:47 AM GMT
"It is not necessary to clean or change the dust collection components under normal use for several years. The dust collection system can easily deal with the particles that are a result of the dust reduction system. If the camera is used constantly in sever conditions, we would recommend that the camera body be sent to our repair service centers approximately at an interval of 3-5 years. As part of our camera service maintenance, the dust collection components are replaced."

"What is the origin and meaning of the supersonic wave filter? Where does the dust go?

The filter is named because it shakes the dust off of the CCD by using supersonic wave vibrations. The dropped dust off is deposited and affixed to a dust collection component under the filter."

Maybe it is time to change bags?
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Darryl
.ffxfireman
10/29/06 1:09 AM GMT
The only thing i can think of is one day (no, not at band camp), kind of windy and probably was not careful enough while changing lenses. There a bit of new constructions going up in our area and it got kind of dusty.
This is from the Olympus Website : Located between the shutter and the image sensor, our exclusive Supersonic Wave FilterTM – a sort of “digital duster” – uses a high-speed vibration that shakes dust and other particles that might settle on the image sensor, causing them to fall away.

The vibration is unnoticeable to the user and occurs at a rate of 35,000 times per second. This vibration automatically takes place each time the camera is powered up, and can also be manually initiated through the camera’s menu. As these particles descend from the image sensor, they are conveniently caught by an adhesive material where they remain out of harm’s way. In doing so, you can capture vivid, dust-free pictures with every press of the shutter button.
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&KEIFER
10/29/06 1:50 AM GMT
I don't know .. I've meet some pretty tenacious, cantankerous dust in my time

hook one up to my car
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