I was just wondering if people played video games and if so which one and the console.

I play halo and i like to play alot on xbconnect connect. If anyone else does talk to me and we can play sometime

I recommend Lineage 2-PC,Halo-xbox, Smash Brothers-game cube, DAOC-PC, AOE2-PC, UT and Q3 - PC
Looking forward to Q4(Q2 sequel) and Doom 3 (same engine)

PS2 and computer games. Too many games to list. Lately I have been playing "Red Dead Revolver", "MOHAA", "Driver 3"... though I still have times when I just play "Civ 3". I am still waiting for "Gran-Turismo 4" to be released.

My favorites are Halo and PGR2 for Xbox. I used to be very addicted to a nice online 3d computer billiards game called Carom3d(.com). These days I am too busy to play anything, but I will make time if Halo 2 is EVER released.

Yeah I cant wait for Halo 2 to come out. I have already started paying for it. Ha. And it scheduled to be shipped out on Nov.8.

Again if anyone Plays HALO on xbconnect. Let me know we can play sometime

digressing slightly - does anyone know whats happening on the next conole releases. my ps2 died of old age recently but im reluctant to reinvest as it seams an age since the big 3 announced their next range of machines so i figured they must be due soon.

edit: i just checked around and ps3 is due to debut at e3 in 2005 with microsoft promising xbox before that which in reality means late 2006 at the earliest i guess. best start shopping around for a new ps2 then.

Sorry Phil, the only new thing I know of that Sony has released info on is the handheld PSP (Play Station Portable).

I just came back from Cali and with me I brought back the old Atari2600 with over 20 games. lol - what great fun the kiddies and I had. Brought back some great memories. As far as my current system, I have a PS2 and my all-time fav games are the Tekken games. I'll play those until my hand falls off. I love the fighting games.

i know what you mean - i nearly bought a Saturn when they came out on the strength of Virtua Fighter - then i saw an imported ps1 playing Tekken and i thought to myself it's great but it's a bit of an unknown quantity. fortunately i held out and went for Tekken - many a happy night ensued with groups of us fighting until someone pulled back the curtains and said "oh god the suns come up - we have to go to work now"

lmao! Oh yeah - had WAY too many of those nights. It's just such a great game that you cant stop with just a few fights. You gotta keep going until you take em all down. And the fact that it can be one/multi-players...well, that makes it even better - cuz, if no one is around...you can still kick some tail. Gotta love that! ; )

If you guys like old arcade games you should check out MAME (Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator) or other emulaotors on the net. I use it to play all my old arcade favs (1942, Galaga, Snow Bros, Rolling Thunder etc) plus all the games I had on the Atari XL as a kid. PM me if you want info or ROMS...

I played Quake2 a lot. Next to that I played for example,
Need for Speed: Underground.
Soldiers of Fortune 2
America's Army (free to download on www.americasarmy.com)
Unreal Tournament.
Quake 3.

Yes, maybe I'm a nerd :)

Quake is an awesome series, I'm glad the decided to continue the quake 2 single player into quake 4

I got an X-Box but play on my PC which I think is much better.

I tend too play Stronghold/Crusader & Anno 1503 mostly.

As far as strategy games go I play Starcraft, Galactic Battlegrounds: The Clone Campaigns, and Rise of Nations. I have yet to purchase RON- I'm somewhat of a demo freak. :-P

DRIV3R (PS2), Onimusha 3 (PS2), FFVII (PS1) and Chad Reeds MX Unleashed (PS2) some really nice titles if you havent tried 'em!

I play Warcraft III, Starcraft, Rise of Nations, Falcon 4.0, Medal of Honor(original and Breakthrough) for PC; James Bond Golden Eye for N64 and pretty much any kind of annoying arcade games

Deus Ex, Hitman 2: Silent Assassin, Diablo 2, Gorky 17 (never finished that one... I got stuck)... umm, Black & White is really good too. I usually play them on PC.

I think Hitman 2 is better than Hitman Contracts. Prolly just because my comp sucks though. :-P

i've been playing spiderman2, for the last few days, i'm itching for Metroid Prime 2 as well as X-Men Legends to arrive this fall.. i'm a die hard nintendo fan, but i can appreciate the xbox and ps2 as well

I'm still a hardcore Diablo II fan. As for other games I love Halo for Xbox and I still play Crono Trigger for the SNES.

i mainly play Chrono Trigger for SNES, sometimes i'll play Super Mario RPG.

i know im way behind the times. But i do have a sony playstation. :)

I'm currently busy with Doom 3, when I can find the time.

These are just a few of he many I play these days:

Quake II - PC
Quake III - PC
Infiltration - PC
UT2K4 - PC
Final Fantasy VII - Playstation
SOCOM I: U.S. Navy SEALs - PS2
SOCOM II: U.S. Navy SEALs - PS2
Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm - PS2
Ghost Recon: Island Thunder - PS2
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City - PS2
Halo - X-Box
Project Gotham Racing - X-Box

Basically every war game out there that has to do with our military is what I'm playing now.

i mainly play the day of defeat mod for half-life but have also been known to play some ut, starcraft, galactic battlegrounds, most bioware rpgs, jk 2 & academy & kotor, diablo 2 and x2

Pat

PC : half-life (waiting for 2 to come out), unreal (pretty much anything to do w/ sniping lol)
GTA series, Hitman series, ummm, bunches of other shtuff too!

Xbox:Halo mainly (can't wait to get 2!) and Jet Set Radio occasionally

GC/N64:Zelda games ;) tony hawk games, Soul Caliber2

Dreamcast: I know DC was never REALLY popular, but i love the games Jet Grind Radio and Soul Caliber

SNES: old skool stuff, mario mainly

A lot more lol, just too many to list

good call, zelda 64: ocarina of time is probably the best console game ever made

I like fighting games. Tekken was ok, but they feel like 1000 lbs when ur fighting! too slow! My fav is Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance. I mastered that game to death :)

N64: Ocarina of Time, Majoras Mask, Jet Force Gemeni, Dk64 (very funny game!)

SNES: EARTHBOUND!!, DKC1, DKC2..., Chrono Trigger, FF6

PS: FF7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GC: metroid prime, smash brothers melee, spiderman2,LOZ: windwaker, f-zeroGX, LOZ: 4swords
SNES: supermetroid, super mario bros, secret of evermore, LOZ link to the past
GBA metroid fusion/metroid zeromission, LOZ Links awakening

..and that damn xbox thing.. always with the halo.. damnit.. that game has sucked so much of my life away from me

Wonderful: your right on some things i forgot. Link to the Past, Supermetroid, Metroid Prime. BUt NOT wind waker, that was the lamest video game i ever played..waste of $50.
And XBOX is RETARDED!!!! Ask people who have what the good games are...al you EVER hear is "HALO, HALO, HALO!!" Guys...the game is RETARDED!! and even if it was good, one game doesnt make a video gsame system!!!!!

Final Fantasy X and X-2 4 PS2 best in the world
Jak and Daxter n jak 2 PS2
Rachet and Clank and 2 PS2
SSX tricky PS2
Wipeout fusion PS2
err...and some others i forget...

ooh jak and daxter was great
one of the first games i bought when i had my PS2, i can't remember the other games i owned at that time.. gosh.. seems like it was years ago..

TB, windwaker i enjoyed, mainly beacause of the novelty of it, it was just a different rendition of the zelda universe; most die hard zelda fans found it very childiish looking and a waste of time sailing around the water, but i enjoyed it, there was always something to do out in the water, hunting sharks, picking off pirates.. i think the game was just a little too short.

I didnt even give wind waker a chance, yes I am a die hard zelda fan (read above) and Link used to be badass. then came windwaker...

HOWEVER, the new one looks like it could be good.

agreed

Ya, I agree about WW, it was really lame compared to the old skool OofT and MM, but it was ok. And yes, agreed about the new one also!

This one is for Elizabeth.
There is a new MMORPG comming out soon, where some of the developers of the most successful MMOs in the past like diablo II and DAOC have gotten together to create Guild Wars. This will be the first MMORPG to be free of monthly fees, just a one time purchase and you can play online for free. The graphics of this game are more impressive than World of Warcraft. I played it during the 2 day preview event and the playability was nice as well. Some nice features ahead of its time, like being able to get private quests and hunting where spawns will be loaded just for you and your party. Etc. Its worth a try, when it comes out i'm sure it will have sort of free trial.

to all Metroid fans: What do you think about the new game Echoes? I am about 25% (i think) finished it, and im not extremly impressed. Unless something changes, im probably going to say that the first Prime was better (although they are both very good). But Super Metroid was the BEST Metrioid game ever!!!! OOO HI LOOVE That game!!!

These days, I play Sims 2 on PC, SSX Tricky and Simpsons Hit and Run on Gamecube, but my favorite games of all time are Zelda Windwaker on gamecube and Earthbound on SNES.

YAY!! so there are TWO earthbound fans!! lol

and 1 windwaker fan! :p
jk

I'm touched that you thought of me, Anthony . . . *sniff* jk
That thing sounds like fun . . . maybe I'll check it out . . . though my graphics card sucks royally so I might have problems with it. And I only have a relatively slow internet connection . . .
That's why I don't play very many pc games--also I am not very good with keyboard, mouse, or even joystick controls. I do better with console controllers. But for pc I've always loved the Myst games (thought that Exile was a bit easy though). I also played Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast. It's got sniping and mowing down legions of stormtroopers and cool lightsaber action. You get all sorts of cool weapons, including thermal detonators, a Wookie bowcaster, and a portable missile launcher (now THAT rocks!!!). Near the end of the game you even get to drive an AT-ST around and shoot puny little stormtroopers into smoking bits. The main downside was that the storyline wasn't that great--it got REALLY cheesy at times. I liked MechWarrior2 okay but I've never been a real fan of shoot-'em-up games.
I am poor. There it is. So we can only afford one console every few years. And because my older brother (21) and I are *OBSESSED* with Zelda, we always get Nintendo. Consequently I know nothing of the multitude of games for xbox or ps2. Nintendo always has the fewest games. *pout*. We gave our NES to our cousin when the SNES came out but we're going to take it back so we can play Zelda on it since our *stupid* cousin gets every system ever made and all the games he wants. His father spoils him. No wonder he's a lazy brat. But that's not the point. I remember very little about NES Zelda because I was still quite young when we gave it away. I love SNES Zelda. It's a kick. I'm very bad at NES/SNES/Gameboy games, though, because I suck with the not-very-responsive controls and straight-line movement and such. I'm better with the instantaneous-3D motion of 64 and GC. But neither my brother nor I have yet beaten SNES Zelda--not that we've been trying on a regular basis (we're in college, no time for ANYthing unless we're willing to stuff school completely). But we once spent an entire summer doing nothing but playing that game and eating junk food (our father had just killed himself and our mother was stuck in bed recovering from back surgery and we needed escapism and stuck in the house since our mom couldn't take us anywhere Nintendo was what we did) and we still didn't beat it. It was pretty fun, though. Then 64 . . . I LOVE OCARINA OF TIME!!!!!!! So do most people, apparently. Anthony was right when he said it was possibly the best console game ever made. I love it to death. SO COOL AND THE STORY ROCKED AND THE FIGHTING ROCKED AND THE-- AND THE--- AND THE--------- OH W~O~W!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have NEVER gotten over that game !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't say very much because my brain tries to wack up and go into contortions when I think of it. That game inspired a poem I wrote--I posted it on my offtopic thread 'cinquains'. It sounds cheesy, a poem about a video game, but it's actually kind of funny. Majora's Mask was pretty cool, too, though not as good as Ocarina of Time. In MM I liked the cool things you could do with some of the masks, especially the Fierce Deity's Mask you get at the end. That one rocks. And the one that makes you into a giant. And the way people would say something different to every mask. Oh, and you could turn into a Deku child, Zora, or Goron. And that song you could play to leave a shell--both the Link and the Deku, Zora, and Goron shells were c~r~e~e~p~y--I loved them! Did anyone else notice that the weird wacked mask seller guy had a Mario mask among the others on his back? lol. Kind of a plug for their own merchandise but it was still funny. And then GameCube and WindWaker . . . I thought WW was alright even though I'm one of those die-hard Zelda fans. It was a bit childish, yes, but then the graphics quality rocked. One of the things I didn't like so much was that it seemed more lighthearted and less serious. The music was too happy. If you know me then you know that happy things where there are supposed to be serious things really &!%#@es me off. And some of the stuff you're supposed to do seemed a little . . . tedious. Not just the sailing either, though that is a bit of a pain until you get the song to transport. Also, I thought it sucked that you didn't get a real instrument but a *BATON* to "conduct" the wind. When you did the songs were airy and substanceless. Not at all like those awesome strong feelingtype songs from OOT. And the second grass temple was really not my favorite. And the game went too fast. And the storyline was a *bit* cheesy. I'M NOT LINK BUT A "REINCARNATION"?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WHAT IS THIS?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I WANTED TO BE LINK!!!!!! WHAT'S ZELDA WITHOUT LINK?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Although I thought the pirate girl Tetra was a kick. Don't really know why. And what's with giving Ganondorf (or is he just Ganon in this one? don't remember) a beard?! He looks like a middle-age guy. And he got fat. I suppose it's supposed to be muscle but he looks fat. I like lean people. Maybe it's shallow. Real people being fat is okay I guess since most really can't help it very much but in video games what's wrong with a little idealism? and the tall-dark-lean-handsome type is alluring to me anyway. That's what bad guys should look like. And good guys, too . . . okay now the happy (well, maybe not *happy*) little world in my head is leaking out. I'd better scoop it up and seal it back in before someone hurts me because of my weird idea of how the world should be. (Though I probably deserve it.) Anyway, I liked the Tower of the Gods okay. That was pretty fun. And in the whole game I liked those knight things that you got knight's crests from. They were fun. And I liked the thing where when you're swordfighting the A spazzes and the controller rattles and you can do this cool leaping/twirling or rolling move right to the enemy's weak spot. That was REALLY fun. I could go on forever but I guess you don't want me to.
Okay . . . stuff BESIDES Zelda (is there such a thing?). For NES I vaguely remember Rescue Rangers and 7up games--but I was so little when we gave that thing away. Oh, but I LOVED MegaMan!!! That was a COOL game!!!!!!! I want it back . . . for SNES we also have Return of the Jedi which is pretty cool. I never got very far because like I said I suck at slow-straight-line-action consoles. But my brother got either to the end or near it and during the last few levels when you're on the second Death Star the gameplay is punctuated at regular intervals by the Emperor's evil cackling. That was really really creepy but it rocked, too. We have Aladdin for that system, and that's a pretty fun game--but even I can beat it in an afternoon. (Not that I could when we first got it.) We have others for it but nothing I remember as being too cool. For 64 I have Star Wars Podracer which is pretty fun, especially once you get the hang of NOT crashing into the walls every five seconds and spending half a minute repairing your racer. They have hidden short-cuts and stuff. When I play my brother I always beat him (for some reason he's better at the consoles I'm worse at and worse at the ones I'm better at). When I play my cousin we always come very, very close and both of us have won sometimes. For 64 I also have Attack on Naboo and . . . ummmm . . . another Star Wars one . . . what was it? I can't remember. It might be Rogue Squadron. For GameCube I got Metroid Prime free with it--haven't played it much--not too impressed. My brother loves it, though. I also have The Two Towers and The Return of the King, both of which completely rock. Way too fun. Haven't beat either, though. Actually, I don't beat very many games. I just play them and don't get far because I'm a pathetic excuse for a gamer and decide I'd rather read partway through the game and spend months not playing and when I feel like it again I want to start over. I also have Clone Wars--that's pretty fun. And Bounty Hunter--that's REALLY fun!!!!!!!!!! Capture bounties!!!!!!!! Watch them beg for mercy!!!!!! They'll pay triple their bounty--but you know they'll just split so you take them in. Shoot anyone who gets in your way. Weeeeeeee!!!!!!! I don't remember what else I have for it.
Oh, and GameBoyColor. Almost forgot. I have all the Zelda games for that too (though I don't have an Advance or a DS so I don't have the most recent ones). I think there's . . . three. They were all pretty cool but being GB they obviously weren't as good as the others. The first one was pretty cool but it was also pretty weird with the whole 'Wind-Fish-dreaming-up-the-world-you're-not-really-here' thing. Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Time were okay too. The subrosians and the skeleton-pirates were a kick! But some of the stuff was cheesy. Ah well.
I've beat Mario for GB a billion times. Tetris for hours on end while I listen to audio books. Nothing else to do that won't way make it worse when I've got a migraine. My grandpa gave me a pokemon game not knowing I hate pokemon *sweat sweat* but I played it because he bought it. It was okay, I guess. But I'm not fond of the stop to fight and take turns thing. Tedious and unrealistic. I like Dragonwarrior 1&2 okay though they have the same fighting thing. Lessee . . . I know I have others, I have eight GB games . . . only put six . . . oh yeah some kind of Mario thing called game & watch but it's mainly the same thing only with harder levels--of the same thing. Hard but gets tedious fast. Also, I have Star Wars, which isn't too bad, but you can't save the game. You have to start over every time. That really gets on my nerves. As a result I never get very far. I've never even got off Tatooine!!!!! On the start menu it says something like 6% of the game completed. *falls on face* waddaya mean, only 6%!!!!!! I've been playing for ten hours straight you moron!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, how could I forget!!!!!!!!!!!! The next Zelda for GC looks AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I watched the trailer and LOVED it!!!!!!!!!!! I read online that at E3 everyone went NUTS when it started!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The downside is it's targeted to market a few days after my brother's birthday. Bad luck for us--my birthday is at the end of Sept, then there's Christmas, then my brother's birthday is at the beginning of March--and then there's a six-month gap in which there's no good reason to buy us something expensive. Maybe if I wack out enough . . . it'll convince my mother it's important . . . I can't wait!!! My brother might be just as excited but you know he just doesn't get emotional about stuff. His mediocrity will never convince our mother to buy it right off . . . I DEMAND TO GET IT!!!!!!!!! I WILL SELL MY SOUL!!!!!!!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHA NO ONE CAN STOP ME NOW jk
Anyway I think I've gone on long enough (this time. I'll be back.)

I must state again, Zelda Ocarina of Time is possibly the best console game ever made. Story line, music graphics, quests, etc etc. Another great thing about it was the complete open play and the multitude of things to do aside from the actual progress of the game. Not many people can say they've experienced every aspect of the game. I pretty much did everything, except I never found the sinking lure so I dont know if I am one of the few cartidges with an eel in my lake :(.

I like Hitman 2, Deus Ex, Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Age of Empires II, and The Sims.... gotta love The Sims. I'm trying to start playing Halo but I don't have a lot of time for video games anymore. *tear*

AOE2 was a very good game

darkaliryn7_1: I think i agreed with what you said (but i didnt read it AAAALLL)
But if u still have ur N64, you MUST buy Jet Force Gemini!!!! I promise you will like it!!! and yes, i noticed the MArio mask on the dude's back. (that was a VERY strange game, but very cool)

John finally brought the dreamcast back, so it's time for Worms! Go go super sheep!

Elizabeth (can I call you by your name now that I know it? :-)) : I think the reason I liked Windwaker so much is that... well, let's face it, I LOVE Zelda games.. I've played every single one of them... but WW is the only Zelda game I was ever able to beat. I'm embarrassed to say that because the only reason I didn't beat Ocarina of Time is that I'm impatient and got frustrated with one of the puzzles.. I forget which one now.. and stopped playing it for a little while, which turned into a LONG while, and when I finally felt like coming back to it, it had been so long that I didn't even remember what I was doing, and I was too far into it to wanna start it ALL over again.. except I did start all over again anyway, I just didn't play for very long. I'm sure someday I'll come back to it and beat it. WW was frustrating with all the sailing, but I got over it because I figured out how to make the boat go faster, or at least seem like it's going faster.. just keep jumping.. and it also gave my fingers something to do while I was waiting.

Anyway... games only get into my "favorites" list after I beat 'em and get that nice satisfying feeling. Ocarina has very good potential of being a favorite if I ever beat it. And I always have to beat games on my own. It just isn't the same if I get help.

What's with all the walk-throughs and stuff for video games, anyway?? What's the point of playing??

"What's with all the walk-throughs and stuff for video games, anyway?? What's the point of playing?? "

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!! OH I HATE IT when people are like "oooh i just got this game and the guide book" ARGHHHHHHHHHH!!!! oh well some people are dumb...

Would anybody else wanna join me on my I-cant-stand-Halo-and-the-people-that-talk-about-it-24-7 speech?
When i thought HALO was the most overrated game of all time, then came along Halo 2!!!!!! Does anyone realize its only a 12hr. GAME?!?!?!?!? Not just that but everyone i know beat it in 3-4 hrs.!!!!
Then theirs the people who come up to you and are like "DUDE, like you like need to buy a like x-box dude, so you can play Halo dude!!" im like "um IDIOT, even if i WANTED to play it, im not going to spend an EXTRA $5,000 (or whatever they are charging for the stupid bulldozer sized "console") to play a game that is also for PC!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH I could go on forever about this......
If you happen to be a Halo fan, please give me some reasong why you THINK it's good.

lol, I enjoyed Halo for the same reason I enjoyed any other first person shooter. You can bring all of your friends into the room and have a good time together. Its really the company of the friends rather than the game since we get the same satisfaction from Goldeneye on the 64. But of course Halo has alot more options and variation in playability than goldeneye, and most other shootem ups for that matter. Just like sports games, and most racing games, etc, a multiplayer game like Halo isnt good without good friends. We beat it the first day, but I stayed up all night with friends in cooperative mode to do it, good times. We've beaten it several times since.

ok, well just as long as your not one of those, talk-about-it-24-7 people, like its the greatest game ever made.
=)

i am a halo fan and it is a great game. You have your opinions about games i can tell bye all the comments you have posted earlier. People have there on opions about games and if they like them alot or not. But i dont see anyone critizing games that you like to play. Halo is an amazing multiplayer to bring friends together and hook up 4 xboxes and have and amzing game with friends. It has a huge varietly from weapons to games. It is not just your regular war game wich you just kill the enemy. And also halo for PC and for xbox are different. But untill you have experciend the game as much as some people. I wouldnt doubt that you would love it to. Oh and since it will probaly make you happy i dont talk about it 24-7 i just play but i just thought i would put in a word to say that everyone has there own opions on games and I like halo

yeah its nice we've had a room full of people and 2 xbox's, fun times.
I still think Super Smash Brothers is the best console multiplayer game out right now

by the way noobguy...if you still have your N64 and enjoy Goldeneye, I'd also get PerfectDark. It's FPS made by the creators of Goldeneye. I found it for $15 dollars 2 yrs ago, and it's likely even cheaper now...if you can find it of course). It has cooperative campaign(an awesome one at that), Advanced AI in multiplayer(still one of the better AI competitors I've seen, and just an overall good game.

If they could've combined the levels, weapons, AI, and storyline of PerfectDark with the music and feel of Goldeneye I would argue that that game would still be the best FPS yet made. But alas what-ifs...

Perfect Dark was awesome, but Goldeneye is just classic.

Perfect Dark IS awsome.. I would say PDs Single player is better than Goldeneye, but Goldeney's multi is better.

agreed

I only played Perfect Dark a little--my cousin has it. But as I said before, not a big shoot-'em-ups fan.

I agree about walk-throughs and guides. I only consult them when I'm so stuck that it's a useless waste of time and electricity, not to mention energy on my part as the few scarce ingested calories are used up in my frustration. And then only on the *one thing* I just can't get. I feel bad--really guilty--but when you are stuck at the same point for three months you kind of don't care anymore. I made a dumb mistake the first time I played OOT, though. I had the bottle with Ruto's letter and went to give it to Kind Zora only I must not have been standing on the pedestal-thing just right because it gave me that "this object doesn't seem to have any effect here" message. And I was REALLY stubborn about guides then. So I spent--I think it *really was* three months--running all over Hyrule trying to figure out what I was supposed to do to get anywhere. The upshot was I found a lot of heart pieces and did a bunch of side-quests. The downside? I felt like screaming the whole three months. Wow, I felt stupid after that.

Hehe, wcladymacbeth, you can call me by my name if I can call you Beth. Let's just try not to get confused. I tend to beat all my Zelda games because I play them so much more than anything else. I like some stuff about WW even though it isn't my favorite. I think it's fun how the spin attack goes completely nuts and you barely have any control. And becoming a seagull is somewhat amusing. There's some other really fun things but I spent a few hours playing OOT earlier and I've drawn a blank on WW. Though one thing--have you seen the 'Nintendo Gallery'? Interesting and maybe fun but you have to do 24 REAL-TIME hours of gameplay to get one thing!!! And there's spots for a billion!!! Yeah right like I'd really do that.

Anyway, on to something I'm thinking clearly about right now--I've beaten OOT three or four times already and I just started playing it again the other day. Of course having beaten it so many times I didn't die until the Water Temple fighting Dark Link (for me it's Dark Aliryn, ha ha, nice pun, that's what I get for using the same name everywhere--but I made it up, I've become attatched)--I like Navi's comment on him--'Conquer yourself!'. Okay, okay, I used some fairies but I didn't DIE die till then. But it's still fun. I always want to beat Dark Link with the Master Sword--all he uses is a sword and I like conserving the parallel--but I can never get past his defenses. AND he keeps jumping on top of my sword to hold it down and I can't block and he POUNDS me. I didn't notice he did that until this morning!!!!! It's kind of weird. But I usually end up having to beat him with Din's Fire. It's the only thing he can't parry. Grrrrrrr. Oh well. And I really, really, REALLY like that cool mirrored-chamber-misty-boundless-looking room that you fight Dark Link in--though it turns into a plain old room when you beat him.

Sinking lure, Anthony? I remember I caught the eel first time I played but I don't remember--or maybe only very vaugely--getting a sinking lure, though the guy says stuff about not choosing your own lure and the sign says "no sinking lures". This time I noticed that the rules sign in the fishing pond--when you're little it has three rules: walk quietly, no sinking lures, and--something else I can't remember. When you're big, it has a fourth: No Casting at Anybody. I thought that was a kick. Though this time I got a big enough normal fish--sixteen pounds--to still get the deeper diving scale without the eel.

You're right about the----"Story line, music graphics, quests, etc etc. Another great thing about it was the complete open play and the multitude of things to do aside from the actual progress of the game. Not many people can say they've experienced every aspect of the game." I never did figure out how to get the fourth bottle. My cousin said something about different types of Poes (why are they called that?) in the field after you've grown up but they all look the same to me. I've beat the game several times with just three bottles in the end. And I keep getting stuck in the Gerudo's Training Ground--the room where it says "find another way out" or something like that and it has different stacks of those Goron-faced block-like things. There's a switch to turn off a fire and get something out of a chest but that's not it--I've spent HOURS literally in that ONE ROOM TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*breathe* *breathe*
So goodbye ice arrows. I'd thought I'd gotten them the first time and went back to my old game to see if the training grounds bore any signs of how I beat that room the first time--and guess what--I never got the ice arrows!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRR!!! I may sound easily frustrated but I've been commenting on annoying things so that's why I keep growling. Grrr.

And I've never gotten all of the Skulltullas either. I've freed all the enchanted guys except the middle guy. I think you have to get 300 total. Whatever you get for freeing him must be some heck of a prize. But geez--all those nooks and crannies!!! How COULD you ever find them all!!! Without using the guide which has the location for EverY SiNGLe sPideR iN tHe GAmE!!!!!! Yeesh!!!

My cousin used to race to see how fast he could beat the game. I say he's insane it's not about speed you're MISSING the WHOLE point!!!

Anthony or anyone else--is there a way to save the game after you've beat it? I haven't found one though my cousin SWEARS it's there. (Of course my cousin isn't the most reliable source of information.) I want to run around in Free Hyrule. *sigh* I guess it's just too much to ask.

My cousin SAID that the PS3'd have a glove. It sounds cool but I'll believe it when I hear it from someone besides him.

The one thing about OOT I've never liked is the Shadow Temple. All that dead stuff--it's not a creepy feeling and I'm not being a little girl. It makes me feel sick deep down. Ugh. It feels--"wrong" is the best word I can come up with. But probably no one else feels that way. It's an extremely subjective subject (haha) after all.

Sorry about the loquaciousness but I've tried to break it up into paragraphs this time to make it easier to chew and swallow.

must fight temptation to tell......it is possible tho :)...
the shadow temple is meant to give that feeling; that's what made the game awesome, the music played a strong part...I can still hear the water temple's music while continually running to change the water lvl...it was maddening i tell u. I loved that game until the save slots in my game become fragmented(or something like that; i only beat it on one slot and yet I can't save anymore). I have a ROM for it now tho, so I may give it a go on my computer...but anyway...it is indeed an awesome game.

WHAT is possible?!?!?! Saving after you beat it?!?!?! GUESS WHO's going to get NO SLEEP until she figures it out now that she *KNOWS* IT'S THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!<--said singsongily
YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm leaving now. I have Exciting Things to Do!!!

you must have found the sinking lure, the eel and the one 25lb fish (in every game) cant be caught without it. supposedly it pops up in random parts of the lake or pond.

(the ice arrows)

Oh now I kinda remember . . . just vaguely. Once this time around I saw the eel though I hadn't found the sinking lure.

what about the ice arrows, Brett? oh, ya mean that's what you were saying "there is a way . . . " well I knew THAT much but what the heck--I'm going nuts and you're smirking at me right now aren't you. I can see it from three states away.
AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zelda on the computer? What a waste!!! pc gaming doesn't have the same feel in my experience. or maybe it's just that I'm clumsy and don't like keyboard and mice controls. and I've never had a console crash. No graphics jerkiness because it's all Meant for each other. hehe.
Oh, I'm sorry. I sound crazy the way I go back and forth with my tone and off on tangents . . . hehehe . . . but that's another thing I've been putting off along with changing my major, Anthony.

Getting tested for being bipolar . . .
NOW do you feel like telling me the answer, Brett? I might haunt you forever.

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okay that made no sense but that's okay because somehow it still sounds right to me.

I play the ROM now too haha (guilty as charged)

I'm currently in the Water Temple (as stated above; fighting Dark Link) and the Main Thing that bugs me about this temple is its monotony. All the paths and walls look the same for the most part. I can't remember where I am for the life of me and those maps don't always make it clear what connects between floors.

And in the Fire Temple: In that big room with the boulders where you play the Scarecrow's Song (hehe 1st time I got it to work) and you go up to that room that you have a timed switch for the chest that's impossible to get to in that amount of time--the floor's too steep and the hookshot's too slow short etc. anyone know what's going on there? I can't figure out a way to get it . . . it's a stand-on-it switch not a hit-it switch so arrows or bombs won't help. grrr.

I love fighting the boss in the Dodongo's Cavern. BOOM-slash-slash-slash!!!!! Blowing the bad guys up from the inside rocks.

And all of the Gerudo stuff and the Spirit Temple. I like the desert theme and those pirates have such attitudes!!! These aren't those cowering women in the villages!!! I'm not a feminist but their no-nonsense I-know-I'm-better-than-you attitude is a real kick. And their clothes are cool. I love sneaking around in their city!!! And those carpenters!!! They're so SCARED of them ! Oh, and the Spirit Temple boss--those witches--I can't remember their names right now. They're Japanese and start with K's and I'm getting mixed up with all those K names in the manga I read. hehehe. and I usually have such a good head for characters and their names and parts in a story. hehehe.

And I don't know about anyone else, but Ruto drives me batty.

I think that it rocks that Link gets earrings when he grows up. It's a nice touch. And the fire and water tunics look good, but my favorite is the original green. Probably most of the die-hard Zelda fans would say the same ; )

I guessed who Sheik was before I found out. Of course, I can also play the treasure chest game and pick all the right ones easily--but only if I'm not thinking about it. I sing amusing song lyrics (like Relient K; if you've heard any of their stuff you know what I'm talking about, lol!:
"I've been banging my head against the wall
for so long it seems I got knocked out
got knocked out cold
and the medical bills went through the roof
and the scar on my head is the proof
that I'll still remember this when I get old . . .")
under my breath and focus on the words so that I'm not thinking about the game. I'll get a subtle impression of which to pick but if I think about it I confuse myself and have to distract myself again. I don't know why it works--but it does. It creeps my brother out majorly (though he'd never admit it--I can just tell. I can see him thinking, It's coincidence, there's nothing weird going on, the world makes more sense than that.) For all I know it's coincidence. Coincidence is scientifically valid, but the more I do it, the smaller the odds get . . . oh well. Whatever. It's handy. I'd beaten the treasure chest game like fifteen times on my own before my brother said, "did you know that you can see what's in the chests with the Eye of Truth?" And I'm like, "huh? I thought we were supposed to GUESS . . . " hehe. that goes to show you just how much attention I pay to things.

One thing I like in OOT/MM as opposed to WW is the fairies. In the 64 games they're sparkling balls of light with glittery wings. In WW they decided to show of their graphics and gave them humanoid forms and features. Nice graphics but they aren't as pretty. I'm sorry, but that's one of my two little-girl weaknesses: sparkles. glitter. it's~so~shiny . . . in case you care, though I'm sure you don't my other little-girl weakness is cats. I'm not an animal rights person. dogs, squirrels, horses, raccoons, they can all hang for all I care. I'm just very susceptible to the allure of cats. so~soft~and~furry~sweet~eyes~whiskers~twitching~purr~purr~purr . . . okay I need to stop writing a novel every few hours. Especially when I start hijacking the thread.

Elizebeth, I think i agree with you about what you said earlier about Shadow temple... It has a very weird feeling it gives you. But i think i also agree with Brett's reasoning for that.

I could NEVER get that lure that you guys are talking about, i tried it millions of times...o well...

I think they use some kind of random logarithm(sp?) for when/where the sinking lure shows up. I don't think it's set. In which case it's pure luck. Or coincidence. Or providence. Or whatever power or scientific law you wish to attribute it to. What It All Means is that there's nothing anyone can do to. It will be there when/where you are, or it won't. Ah, the chaotic beauty of randominity . . .

I see Brett's reasoning, too, but I'm not one of those nothing's-sacred people. I think there are lines that people should not cross. I don't know what line it is I think they crossed with the Shadow Temple, but I feel like I'm caught fifty miles past the line with no way back . . . I think you can do creepy without doing that. There are a few frames in some manga that I've read that are creepy but they don't make me feel sick. Like seeing the bad guy's face peer out of the darkness . . . it partially depends on execution, of course, not just the concept. I really can't say how to draw the line, as I said, but I'd feel whether I was over it or not by my gut.

I suppose there are some people--maybe most--out there who think, waddaya mean, it's just a game, there's no lines, I'm looking at the ground and there are no chalk lines by my feet. But I guess it's just like every other issue we've beaten far past death to its original subatomic bits in these threads. Poeple have their opinions about moral stuff, about whether there's even a moral question. So. Maybe you think I'm nuts but remember I'm not currently down your throats about anything. Oh, look, a bomb shelter . . . how . . . n i c e . . . okay, they're not looking! *ducks inside*
o_O'

I think they use some kind of random logarithm(sp?) for when/where the sinking lure shows up. I don't think it's set. In which case it's pure luck. Or coincidence. Or providence. Or whatever cosmic power or scientific law you wish to attribute it to. What It All Means is that there's nothing anyone can do to. It will be there when/where you are, or it won't. Ah, the chaotic beauty of randominity . . .

I see Brett's reasoning, too, but I'm not one of those nothing's-sacred people. I think there are lines that people should not cross. I don't know what line it is I think they crossed with the Shadow Temple, but I feel like I'm caught fifty miles past the line with no way back . . . I think you can do creepy without doing that. There are a few frames in some manga that I've read that are creepy but they don't make me feel sick. Like seeing the bad guy's face peer out of the darkness . . . it partially depends on execution, of course, not just the concept. I really can't say how to draw the line, as I said, but I'd feel whether I was past it or not in my gut. Though even if people agreed with me gut feelings are subjective and we'd disagree on what's okay and what isn't.

I suppose there are some people--maybe most--out there who think, waddaya mean, it's just a game, there's no lines, I'm looking at the ground right now and there's no chalk lines there. But I guess it's just like every other issue in these threads that we've beaten far past death down to its fundamental subatomic bits. People have their opinions about moral stuff, about whether there's even a moral question. So. Maybe you think I'm nuts but remember I'm not *currently* down your throats about anything. Oh, look, a bomb shelter . . . how . . . n i c e . . . okay, they're not looking! *ducks inside*
o_O' Whew . . . . . . . what?! yaaaaaaa!!! they found me x_x 'requesiat in pace'

the shadow temple was freaky, good stuff, the fact that it actually scared you meant the designers did a good job.
good to see that there are some good gamers who are chicks

haha very funny. you're secretly thinking I'm a scared little girl aren't you. well guess what. I hate pink and cute things repulse me, like babies. grrrrrr. I'm not girly. (not a tomboy either. you don't HAVE to be one or the other . . . )
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Quit snickering behind your hand like that!!! I'm telling the truth!!!

aaah! I violent little girl huh????
hah jk

No . . . really, that's closer to the truth . . . in a way . . .

SINCE WHEN was this a speculation on my peculiarities anyway?!?!?! (not that I particularly object)

no speculation, just dont know any other girls that are hardcore OOC fans

or...video game fans for that matter.. =\ lol

that just means I'm unique, doesn't it? *smug smile* (jk . . . or not)

now in OOT I'm where I have to get the eye of truth and then I'll do the Shadow Temple . . . geez those zombie things scream and I jump three feet. I'm telling you that stuff makes me feel so sick deep down that I'm almost nauseous . . . but it's a more insidious sensation. I still wish it weren't there. The stuff really goes against my moral beliefs. But you didn't care, did you? Anyway, I am going to race through them as fast as possible without skipping stuff, just like I always do.

Has anyone else noticed that you can do either the Shadow Temple before the Spirit Temple OR vice-versa? I'm not sure which was intended, if either WAS intended. They flash where to go on the map and it says Spirit unless you go to Kakariko to get the Eye of Truth which you need to get to Spirit but after that little cinematic with Sheik and the weird shadow that flies around that has bad graphics and just looks like tv snow to me they flash Spirit AND Shadow. I do Shadow first because I hate it. Anyone have any thoughts besides that?

if i'm correct you need the boots from the shadow temple to get to far into the spirit...and so you're already in the shadow...

btw...I know plenty of gamer-chicks...(they seem to be of the engineering breed)

I know nothing about engineering except that I would hate it. All those little details . . . : P
Okay. Shadow first. That's how I like it. Best for last. That particular desert theme really appeals to me for some reason.

agreed,
although i kinda like shadow (althouh i get that creepy feeling deep inside too, ESPECIALLY when going through the maze place with the lens of truth, man that is so freaky)
But Spirit temple is awsome!

Under the Well is like the Shadow too. There's blood smeared on the walls and some of the walls are made up of stacks of skulls (I saw a thing on the travel channel about catacombs, there's a real place with walls made of skulls & some other bones) and in the middle room there's an old-fashioned cross with chains hanging off it and blood all over it and the floor. I mean-come on! I hate that stuff. I feel so--not just creepy, but . . . tainted, somehow. Ugh. I'm not going to talk about it anymore.

favorite game. definately Final Fantasy VII.......or Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake eater

Same Here

I've wanted to try some kind of Final Fantasy for a while . . . but never did