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You're banned!

.bridgebrain
12/18/07 5:23 AM GMT
A little thing from a fun site. Ban people for whatever reason you can find! You're banned for reading this! I'm banned for having HAL9000 as my avatar. I'm banned for being online. That kind of thing. Have fun!
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+purmusic
01/11/12 4:26 AM GMT
Yous above are allllll.. banned.

... ...

For making me portage through your posts.
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::Akeraios
01/11/12 5:40 AM GMT
Les is banned for not using the perfectly good, dictionary approved plural for "you".
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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
+purmusic
01/11/12 4:38 PM GMT
Y'all come back now.. after your bannagement.
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::solita17
01/12/12 6:26 AM GMT
Hannah, y'all are secondly banned...

Les is banned for actually trying to portage through the quicksand of the offtopic threads.
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
::Akeraios
01/12/12 3:37 PM GMT
Mary is banned for the unforgivable crime of using "y'all" as a singular pronoun. Southerners know better!
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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
::solita17
01/12/12 5:13 PM GMT
Hannah is banned for behaving like Scarlett O'Hara on a tear.
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
.third_eye
01/12/12 5:28 PM GMT
Mary's banned for acting like Scarlett Johansson, Lost in Translation. :-p
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::solita17
01/12/12 5:51 PM GMT
lol

Rob is banned for... (there go those ellipses again)... I don't know, I'll think of something.
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::Akeraios
01/12/12 7:17 PM GMT
You know, I hated Gone With the Wind. Mary is banned for thinking there could ever be any resemblance between me and that horrible woman!
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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
::solita17
01/12/12 9:42 PM GMT
Aha, I've got it...

Rob is banned for thinking Hannah and I are... scarlet women!

Hannah is unbanned... I thought she was horrible too...
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
.third_eye
01/12/12 9:55 PM GMT
Mary's banned for excruciatingly bad, albeit funny grammar.

"Hannah is unbanned... I thought she was horrible too..."

Makes it seem as though you unbanned Hannah for being horrible. Although... ;-)
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::twinkel
01/13/12 10:49 AM GMT
Whaa...all the men here on Caedes are banned, it's going to be a women site....mwhahaha

:oP
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Carpe Diem!
::danika
01/13/12 9:21 PM GMT
....but, but if we ban all men ... then 'who' are we going to pick on?
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"Packers Rock!" .... Fan of Karl Klug (DT) ~ Tennesse Titans .... Go Warriors ~ best of luck in the state football finals.
=Samatar
01/13/12 10:10 PM GMT
Twins is banned for banning caedes from caedes.
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-Everyone is entitled to my opinion-
::Akeraios
01/14/12 12:53 AM GMT
Sam is banned for not noticing the boss has banned himself for over a month now. And you a Consul ...
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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
+purmusic
01/14/12 11:03 PM GMT
Well, now you tell me.. is that it all it takes?

Ok, then.. I ban meself.

... ...

... ...

And Hannah's banned.. twice, as well. For good good measure.

(*takes out e-tape measure*)

Ban twice.

Post once.

It's what professionals Offtopicers do.

:oP
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::twinkel
01/16/12 4:04 PM GMT
.....It's what professionals Offtopicers do....

In that case.....

Les is banned.....

TWICE!!!!

:oP
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Carpe Diem!
::Akeraios
01/16/12 4:45 PM GMT
Twinkel is banned for pretending to make her living here.
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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
::solita17
01/16/12 7:58 PM GMT
Hannah is banned for pretending she's here at all... twice. ;-)
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
.third_eye
01/16/12 9:25 PM GMT
So, to be clear, is she banned twice, or banned once?

Mary's banned for certain vagaries which may, or may not be wrongly interpreted by parties of the third part.
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+purmusic
01/17/12 1:52 AM GMT
Rob is banned for putting too much stock on the third part.

Second is where it is at.

Every -body.. knows that.

... ...

Well, except for Rob, apparently.
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.third_eye
01/17/12 2:00 AM GMT
Les is banned for insider traitoring.
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+purmusic
01/17/12 2:06 AM GMT
Lol.

You had to go 'there', didn't you?

... ...

Didn't even have to reach that far down.. which, of course is a bannishable offense.

It's all about putting forth an effort here.

(*typed with one thumb.. while slouched near horizontal in his chair*)
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::solita17
01/17/12 6:29 AM GMT
Les is banned for slouching too near the horizontal of his chair.

Rob is banned for thinking my phraseology is too confusing. Which it is. But he's banned anyway.
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
+purmusic
01/17/12 1:12 PM GMT
(*voice heard coming from under desk*)

Lil' help?

I done slouched right off my chair.

:o|

... ...

(*hands emerges from under desk.. searches around, finds keyboard to type the following..*)

Mety id bammed.
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::twinkel
01/18/12 11:23 AM GMT


Banned Les for bringing Mety into the thread......
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Carpe Diem!
::solita17
01/18/12 8:42 PM GMT
Who's Mety??
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::Akeraios
01/18/12 9:10 PM GMT
Apparently some guy whose id is "bammed". I don't know what that means, but it sounds pretty painful. But at least it wasn't his ego ...
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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
+purmusic
01/19/12 2:14 AM GMT
(*hands emerges from under desk.. searches around, finds keyboard to type the following..*)

Jammah os wromg.

Bammed.

(*retreats back under desk to the more comfortable horizontal position*)
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::solita17
01/19/12 7:27 AM GMT
omg... he bammed Jammah! because he os wromg, apparently.

Les, has your inner imp been nipping at the sherry by any chance?
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
::twinkel
01/19/12 8:45 AM GMT
Unbanned Mety aka Mary
Unbanned Jammah aka Hannah

and...

Banned Les for still being under his desk..

*guess he thinks the roof is coming down and he will be safe there*

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Carpe Diem!
+purmusic
01/19/12 11:10 PM GMT
(*hands emerges from under desk.. searches around, finds keyboard to type the following..*)

Tje sku ism"t galling?

Wjew!

Dorsn't natter.. Twunkrl os bammed.

(*retreats back under desk to the more comfortable horizontal position, has a cookie or seventeen*)
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::Akeraios
01/20/12 12:52 AM GMT
*takes Les's keyboard while he's sleeping off the cookies*

*gets Mary and Els to help tie sleeping Les upright to his chair*

*sets his computer to play this repeatedly*
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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
+purmusic
01/20/12 7:28 AM GMT
(*wakes up*)

Heyyyyy.. wha' happened??

(*takes a look around at all the lil' people surrounding him and staring back*)


Hannah is banned for placing me in a less cooler remake of "Gulliver's Travels" than that of Jack Blacks'.

... ...

And notably banned.. for the accompanying soundtrack.
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::solita17
01/20/12 7:31 PM GMT
well, at least he's vertical again...

and bammed.... ;-)
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
.mesmerized
01/20/12 9:07 PM GMT
Consider yourself bammed AND banned, Les...there now, that takes care of him for awhile...whew, finally a little peace and quiet, hehe.
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::twinkel
01/22/12 1:26 PM GMT
*looks like a meditation centre now*

Pat is banned for not making a choice if Les is baMMed or baNNed....

*tiptoes out of here*

:oP




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Carpe Diem!
+purmusic
02/21/12 12:06 AM GMT
Twinkel is banned for going en pointe in her post above.. in these.

If you are going to tippytoe like a ballet dancer, proper footwear such as pointe shoes or toe shoes is a must.

This thread isn't an Off-Off-Broadway production of.. "Stomp".

:oP

... ...

Oh, and Mary is banned for being a worrywart.

;o)
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::Akeraios
02/21/12 7:35 PM GMT
Les is banned for playing hooky from his cultural sensitivity training. The boss is going to hear about this!
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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
::solita17
02/22/12 5:32 AM GMT
well, hey, 'worrywart' is often my middle name... I make no apologies... ;-)

Hannah is banned for telling on Les.
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
+purmusic
02/22/12 8:33 AM GMT
Mary is banned for having a rather odd middle name.

... ...

Then, again.. Krisss (the 'k' is silent) from Distribution and Sales has no problem with it.
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::solita17
02/23/12 3:32 AM GMT
Who's (K)rissss? And why isn't he banned?

Come to think, why isn't (L)essss banned?
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.Akeraios
02/23/12 5:53 AM GMT
He is.
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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
+purmusic
02/23/12 8:52 PM GMT
Banned? Or.. baknned (with a silent 'k')?

There's a difference.

Huuuuge.. difference.


Mary and Hannah are banned for non-specificity.
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.mesmerized
02/24/12 8:58 PM GMT
Les is banned for his poor spelling and heavy-handed attitude towards 'u'.
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“Creativity takes courage.” (Henri Matisse)
+purmusic
02/24/12 10:38 PM GMT
Wait.. what?

Meeeeeeee? Heavy-fingered on the keyboard?!?!


Ok, guilty.. as charged.

But.. that ain't gonna save you..


Pat's banned for brandishing the dreaded 'Red Pen' of The Guild of Educators.

... ...

Huh.. still got a 'C'. Not bad for having copied off of Hannah.

And she is supposed to be the smart one.

:oP
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.mesmerized
02/25/12 7:37 PM GMT
"...having copied off of Hannah."...*shakes head*...tsk tsk, and you of all people...Les is banned for plagiarism.
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“Creativity takes courage.” (Henri Matisse)
+purmusic
02/26/12 12:39 AM GMT
Having reprimanded me...*shakes head*...tsk tsk, and you of all people...Pat is banned for reprimanding.

:oP
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.Akeraios
02/27/12 3:41 AM GMT
I'll have you know I got an 'A', Les. I crossed out the wrong answers after you finished copying. I wasn't born yesterday!


You, on the other hand, get a little session with the dunce cap. :-P

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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
+purmusic
02/27/12 8:36 AM GMT
Hannah is banned for trying to make me wear.. ill-fitting headwear.


I'm more of an 'E' hat person, myself.. than that of a 'D'.

... ...

Which stands for ... 'excellence'!

(*bows*)
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.Akeraios
02/27/12 4:17 PM GMT
Les is banned for having a big head.
So big, in fact, that it pulled him right over when he did that bow.
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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
.mesmerized
02/27/12 4:35 PM GMT
He can't argue with that...just look at his avie, lol.
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“Creativity takes courage.” (Henri Matisse)
+purmusic
02/27/12 6:35 PM GMT
Speaking of avatars..


Both of yous are banned for making eyes at me.

... ...

(*curtsies out of thread*)
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::twinkel
03/11/12 10:08 AM GMT
Les is banned for thinking that the ladies are making eyes at him..

Pfft...what's he thinking..hehe..

just teasing with the last line, but still banned!

:oP
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Carpe Diem!
+purmusic
03/11/12 8:15 PM GMT
(*curtsies back onto thread..*)

Twinkel is banned for hovering above me.. for the aerial view of my lithe, sleekly muscled nekid body.

Interesting perspective, maybe?

That said..

Banned.

(*curtsies, once more and again, out of thread*)
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::solita17
03/14/12 4:22 AM GMT
'lithe'...? 'sleekly muscled'...?

Which thread am I on?

Sounds like Les has forgotten to take his meds again. The poor man is deluded, which means he's automatically banned.
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
+purmusic
03/14/12 12:26 AM GMT
I made the mistake of using a funnel to parcel out my meds this week. Thought it would speed up the process, instead ... Monday's pill compartment got almost the entire weeks' worth.

On the upside of things.. Tuesday was an incredibly short day.

... ...

It is September now, right?


Mary's banned for not car-pooling.

That's right, word got around. Tsk.. and double ... tsk.
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.mxvirgil
03/29/12 7:54 AM GMT
Les is banned for impersonating a traffic cop and a pharmacist simultaneously.

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'Let's eat Grandma!' or, 'Let's eat, Grandma!' Punctuation saves lives...
+purmusic
04/01/12 6:41 PM GMT
Mike has bannagement pronounced upon him..

For clipping me with his side mirror while I was performing my daring 'Russian Splits' maneuver ... to indicate to traffic in the North and South lanes to proceed.
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::twinkel
04/07/12 9:58 AM GMT
Les is banned for thinking I have fudge in the upper cupboard...

'K..silly-billy :o)
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Carpe Diem!
+purmusic
04/07/12 4:33 PM GMT
Twinkel is banned for trying to trick me into thinking that she has no fudge in the upper cupboard.

Her reputation, where fudge is concerned.. precedes her.


It's in there.. I know it!

So.. banned for your pants being on fire!

... ...

I was curious on the note of the origins of that phrasing.
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=Samatar
04/08/12 3:48 AM GMT
Les is banned for being curious. It killed the cat you know! Hm I wonder what the origins of that saying are...
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-Everyone is entitled to my opinion-
::twinkel
04/08/12 8:22 AM GMT
Sam banned Les for being curious....but hey look who's talking..

Sam your sooo banned, cause you wonder <---- translate that in curious...

:oD
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Carpe Diem!
.Akeraios
04/08/12 12:20 AM GMT
Sam is banned for thinking it's a "saying" rather than the (unfortunately) literal truth for all too many cats.
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"I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but I see you are unarmed!" -- Shakespeare
+purmusic
04/08/12 4:33 PM GMT
Hannah is banned for being stingy and miserly, where hints are concerned.

:oP
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.Akeraios
04/08/12 11:52 PM GMT
Les is banned for thinking there's such a thing as a free hint. Someone has to pay for it!
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"I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but I see you are unarmed!" -- Shakespeare
.mxvirgil
04/09/12 3:44 AM GMT
I'm banned for musing about an old, old profession based on the exact same business principle . . . er, medicine..?!?

Les is kinda' banned for begging from Hannah . . . where's your dignity, man!?

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'Let's eat Grandma!' or, 'Let's eat, Grandma!' Punctuation saves lives...
+purmusic
04/09/12 12:01 AM GMT
Mike's banned for the mere suggestion that I had some dignity in the first place.

(*hops onto his Pretty Pony trike, rings the bell.. once ... rides off into the morning, puce streamers streaming from the handle bars..*)
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::twinkel
04/09/12 3:20 PM GMT
Les is banned for riding a pretty pony, for ringing the bell and that all on an Easter Monday morning...

:oP
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Carpe Diem!
+purmusic
04/10/12 8:26 PM GMT
But.. but.. but, I was eating chocolate at the same time?

Pretty sure that makes the activity allowable under the Easter Rules.

So..

Twinkel is banned for not having read the Easter Rules.


Of which.. rule number one?

"1) In all matters pertaining to.. chocolate:

Mine."


Allllll.. mine.
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::solita17
04/12/12 12:10 AM GMT
Les is so banned for hogging all the Easter chocolate....

No more Pretty Pony rides for you, Mister... you're grounded for, oh, say, 45 minutes. or the amount of time it takes the rest of us to eat our share of the chocolate, whichever comes first.
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
+purmusic
04/12/12 12:16 AM GMT
Careful, now..

My attack Pretty Ponies have some sharp hooves and are trained to keep an eye on the chocolate.

... ...

Bewachen die Schokolade!

(*releases the herd..*)

Don't say I didn't warn yous..


Mary is banned for eating her Chocolate Easter Bunny.. eyes first.

What the what??

:oP
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::solita17
04/12/12 6:48 AM GMT
Not true. I always start with the ears and then work my way down.

can I have one of those flying ponies? I won't ban you if you give me one..
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
+purmusic
04/12/12 11:53 PM GMT
Take your pick.

But.. you have to promise to take care of him/her.

Ensuring that he/she gets plenty of exercise, and.. lots of chocolate carrots for treats.


Mary still gets banned, though.

It's in the rules.. Sieg Caedes!

... ...

Ok, that might be offensive..

Sieg Cookies!
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::solita17
04/18/12 5:15 AM GMT
Les is banned for sigging the cookies without sharing them first....
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
+purmusic
04/22/12 12:04 AM GMT
Mary is banned for disseminating misinformation to touristas.


What Mary failed to mention in that one post of hers.. and this, after an honest attempt to answer the question posed ... was the following:

"Ooooh.. right, right.

You were wondering on the whereabouts of the fish, given the presence of the birds.

Understandable.

Well, come a lil' closer.

That's it ... step right up to the edge so that you can look down into the water.

See there?

(*points*)

No, no.. you have to get a lil' closer ... closer ... ... clo -ser ..."

(*splash*)
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::solita17
04/22/12 7:54 PM GMT
Les is banned to the 'liar liar' thread... ;-)
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
::solita17
04/22/12 8:03 PM GMT
Les is banned to the 'liar liar' thread... ;-)
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
::solita17
04/22/12 8:03 PM GMT
twice.....
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
+purmusic
04/22/12 8:36 PM GMT
Lol.


True say on the bannagement to the "Liar Liar" thread.

As it was more of a 'kerplunk' ... followed quickly by a resounding and satisfying 'splash'.

:oP
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::solita17
04/23/12 6:46 PM GMT
music to me ears, it was...

I must ban myself as I seem to be the only person-type entity not banned on this thread now....

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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
+purmusic
04/23/12 7:41 PM GMT
Erhm.. hey everyone.

This is Fred, purmusic's lawyer and landscaper.

He told me to tell yous, wait..

(*sits up straighter in chair*)

... I've been instructed to inform you that the first party has filed Notices of Bannagement, under section 2.1 of the Offtopic Code ... for all parties not party to the.. uhm, party.

... ...

Consider yourselves.. served.

(*slouches back*)
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::Akeraios
04/24/12 12:12 AM GMT
*spikes the Bannagement ball firmly down on Les's side of the net*
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"I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but I see you are unarmed!" -- Shakespeare
+purmusic
04/24/12 1:25 AM GMT
Hey again, this is Fred once more..

(*bumps Bannagement ball up for a perfect feed for purmusic to spike it back deep into the back court..*)

... ...

(*away from Hannah*)
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::Akeraios
04/24/12 2:40 AM GMT
In a totally unexpected (by most of the participants) turn of events, the game suddenly changed to Dodgeball.


And the ball, already in mid-flight, bounced off Mary and hit Les square on the head.
(Sorry about that, but the head was easier to hit on account of its relative size ...)
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"I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but I see you are unarmed!" -- Shakespeare
::solita17
04/24/12 4:52 AM GMT
relatively speaking of course....

funny... but I often get the feeling that a ball has bounced off of me, for no good reason. Must have dreamed it...

perhaps I should ban the ball... (she queried herself)

ok, the ball is banned!
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
+purmusic
04/24/12 8:00 AM GMT
Yep, me again.

Fred.

Let's see..

(*shuffling of papers is heard*)

Ok, perfectly legal and all that.. begone ball! You displease us!

(*slouches back, once again*)
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::twinkel
06/29/12 8:44 PM GMT
Pfft...

Fred is banned to make a noise about something


The door is that way---->

or

is it that way<-----

(*Yayks, have been a way to long*)

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Carpe Diem!
+purmusic
10/15/12 3:03 AM GMT
Twinkel is banned for 'poking' me to sign up for Facebook.

I simply don't have the time and am already on PoopyPants.com. (Blame Sam for this one.)


Mary is banned for jousting without a permit and hereby has bannagement pronounced upon her.

Mind you..

She can get out of the e-doghouse.. if she can figure out why Alt+Tab is so problematic for Steam.
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::solita17
10/15/12 5:54 AM GMT
Les is more... I mean, Les is banned for banning me permanently in the e-doghouse because he knows I can't figure out Alt+Tab or why it's problematic for poor Steam....
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
+purmusic
10/15/12 8:43 AM GMT
Just got a call from Steam.. yep, they banned Mary as well.

Pretty ruthless AND problematic bunch.

:oP
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::Akeraios
10/15/12 6:50 PM GMT
Mary is banned for starting to stoop to a pun.
Les is banned for taking too long in the shower and leaving the mirror all steamed up.
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"I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but I see you are unarmed!" -- Shakespeare
+purmusic
10/15/12 7:14 PM GMT
Hannah is banned for writing the following on the steam fogged mirror;

"$20,000 in unmarked bills or Flickr's galleries gets something to really 'explore'.. *click* *click*"

... ...

Weren't even my best side. :o\


(Power to the Ellipses! They're back, baby! :oP)
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::solita17
10/15/12 8:55 PM GMT
who is this Steam and why was he/she fogging up Les's bathroom mirror?

Hannah's banned for not knowing I grew up with a bunch of mad punsters and therefore can't help myself....

Les is banned for banning poor Ruth and her Problematic Bunch...
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -- Katharine Hepburn
+purmusic
10/15/12 10:31 PM GMT
Steam.com

And now.. you know.


Ruth and her Problematic Bunch?

Never did like the cut of their jib.

Not.. ahem ... 'tack'ful at all.

:oP

... ...

(*pats self on the back for that one*)



Mary is banned for helping herself one too many times at MY cookie jar.

... ...

She comes by it honestly, though.
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::solita17
10/16/12 3:36 AM GMT
heyyyy, that's what you get when you disappear for long periods of time: An empty cookie jar... although you're right, I came by it honestly; in fact I stumbled over it and the entire stash of cookies tumbled out... What was I supposed to do, put them back into the jar??

Les is banned for the hoarding of said cookies, and also for that tack-less, tack-y pun about Ruthie and the Bunch... a fine chick band, almost as good as the Bangles...
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+purmusic
10/16/12 11:24 AM GMT
no u!

Banned!


(/\ Oh, yeah.. that's how I roll in the mornings ... short and sweet!)

... ...

(No, sorry, can't always be mornings. :oP)
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::solita17
10/23/12 5:01 AM GMT
sometimes it's afternoons, sometimes it's 3 am, depending on which way you roll.... but if you roll and fall out of bed at any time, you're banned!

hehe
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.Akeraios
10/23/12 1:04 PM GMT
Mary is banned for trying to put Les on a plane permanently following the sunrise.
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+purmusic
11/03/12 4:35 AM GMT
Hannah is banned for wiping out my holidays.

Was looking forward to chasing the sunrise alllll year!

... ...

I don't get it.

:o|


No matter, still banned.
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