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Size Matters

07/17/17 4:03 AM GMT
I have had a few members notify me that they had downloaded one of my images, but were altering its dimensions to better fit their monitor screen.

I tend to make and submit wallpapers that fit my own HD monitor. However, HD monitor screens tend to be wider and shorter in ratio than the older or more standard 4-to-3 screen ratio monitors.

So my question is: what is the best, most universal sized image to offer?

Thank you for any and all replies! :)
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07/17/17 11:36 AM GMT
I have been wondering the same.
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07/17/17 2:29 PM GMT
Probably 16:9 images. Although, I've been submitting 3:2 images, because I like that ratio better, and it's native to my camera.
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Timothy J. Warren | My homepage | My Gallery | My Lens Collection
07/17/17 6:47 PM GMT
StatCounter Global Stats | "Screen Resolution Stats Worldwide - June 2017"

And if you desired, you could correlate the visitors by country to the site here as well, to determine the most 'common' resolution for the Caedes Membership.

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"I have had a few members notify me that they had downloaded one of my images, but were altering its dimensions to better fit their monitor screen."


And here I thought that the site automatically did so, when presenting 'your' (speaking generally here) images/photos full-size to the viewer.


I would have clarified with those that had contacted you as to what exactly was done to make your images 'better fit their screens'.

And again.. me?

I make my images in my native resolution which is uncommon, that I do know.. 1920 X 1200.
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07/18/17 4:47 AM GMT
Many thanks to the brave few who answered (bows)!

Timothy, so ... middle of the road 16:9 would be 1920x1080. That might be doable. At my normal 1680x1050, I'm probably not far off of a comfortable adjustable size from that, as is though.

purmusic's link (thank you!) suggests that 1366x768 is most commonly used. (Scratches head ...) That seems like an odd size to me.

purmusic, I remember when caedes used to offer a choice of screen size options for download, but I no longer see that available (and haven't for some time time now). I have to download whatever size the image is when it's "full-sized". So ... dunno what that's about?

Also, my apologies. I didn't save the personal messages from the folks to be able to provide you their specific alterations. I didn't really pay it much heed, as I frequently tweak wallpapers to better fit my screen, too. As I recall, they were shaving some off, but ... (shrugs?)

My only real thought at the time was, I wonder what the best base size should be for a caedes upload? Hence, here we be!

Looks at purmusic ... 1920x1200? (Whistles) Big! Lucky you!! :)

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07/18/17 11:34 AM GMT
I tend to think smaller measurements would be best so it will at least sit in the middle... but 1366x768 seems too limited a maximum, and would frustrate those with bigger screens.

My iPad 4 uses 2048x1536.

To complicate matters, there are parallax wallpapers on some devices. I copied the following notes for myself in 2013 (so the information isn't cutting edge):

Here's the suggested size for parallax wallpapers by device (WxH):

iPhone 5/5C/5S: 1,040x1,536
iPhone 4S: 1,040x1,360
iPad (third and fourth gen): 1,936x2,448
iPad Mini: 1,168x1,424
iPod Touch (fifth gen): 1,040x1,536

I tend to ignore those notes, though... any wallpaper fits the iPad, regardless of resolution.

I'm not sure any of this helps. :-P
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07/18/17 2:37 PM GMT
The iPad is a 3:2 image ratio, most new computer screens are 16:9 (including 4K displays, and the oddball 1366x768). Older LCD screens were usually 16:10 (1680x1050, 1920x1200).

My recommendation would be to just pick a ratio, and upload as large as you can. Since the limit here is 3200px, I tend to aim for that on the longer side of the photo.
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Timothy J. Warren | My homepage | My Gallery | My Lens Collection
07/19/17 7:07 PM GMT
"purmusic, I remember when caedes used to offer a choice of screen size options for download, but I no longer see that available (and haven't for some time time now). I have to download whatever size the image is when it's "full-sized". So ... dunno what that's about?"

Can't quite recall the time when things changed to that of the site offering only one 'size', based off of the viewer's monitor's native resolution.

Speculating on the change..

Less wear and tear on the server in having to crunch and offer up whatever was decided by the viewer. Less disk space consumption.

That said and aside..

Tim above makes a good good point. But, I would add in a cautionary note of not necessarily uploading up to the largest limits that the site affords.. since, you are only making the rippers nefarious tasks easier.

And.. more importantly.. since this all boils down to quality.. upload in png/PNG format, as opposed to jpg/JPG format. From the "Image Upload" page:

"Use PNG format for better quality."
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07/19/17 7:16 PM GMT
timw4mail: "Older LCD screens were usually 16:10 (1680x1050, 1920x1200)."


Noooo.. moar better!

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In all seriousness, the extra screen real estate is great when you are working in Photoshop, juggling files and and.. .
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07/20/17 1:22 AM GMT
Good info all around! (Passes everyone a plate of fresh, still warm from the oven, melt in your mouth, chocolate chip cookies)

I guess that variety has become the spice of life and monitors. With desktops, laptops, tablets, and smartphones, screen size is relative to your hardware and personal preference. There are no real, one size fits all standards anymore.

Soooo .......

I have decided that I will continue to submit uploads that are based on my own desktop ratio, BUT I will offer to resize my future submissions for anyone who needs something different for a good fit.

Not sure what else to do? I can't see making desktop art that I can't put on my own desktop. And it should be fairly simple to resize for others in most cases.

We'll see if anyone takes me up on it.

Thanks again!! :)

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07/20/17 1:26 AM GMT
purmusic, explain your "rippers nefarious tasks" comment, would you pretty please?
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07/20/17 6:39 PM GMT
Oops.. guess I was too cryptic with that remark.

Simply put, Lisa..

I was trying to make the point that if 'you' upload the largest sized image possible (dimension wise on the note of pixels).. rippers can and usually target those images.

And rippers being.. those that steal other people's art and images.

Some rippers are innocent enough.. in that they download 'your' image and then reupload it to their blog, personal webpage or whatever.

Some, however.. will use 'your' art to sell other stuff.. like printed on items such as handbags, mousepads, t-shirts, etc.. if not directly as a print itself.
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07/20/17 6:40 PM GMT
"I have decided that I will continue to submit uploads that are based on my own desktop ratio, BUT I will offer to resize my future submissions for anyone who needs something different for a good fit."

Prudent move and quite gracious of you as well to offer that to the membership.
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07/22/17 11:18 AM GMT
And.. my apologies to anyone that might have been reading along in this discussion and made it to my post/comment about rippers.. and gasped; "oh, no!"

My point still stands that I don't think it is necessarily advisable to upload the absolute largest size afforded by the site here.

But.. but.. when it comes to someone stealing your art and making/selling prints?

No.. worries, really.

Since 'you' (speaking generally here) are uploading images at 72 pixels/inch resolution. And professional quality images require 300 pixels/inch resolution.

At the largest upload size of 3200 X 3200 pixels for the site.. the size of print at professional quality would come in at near the 8 X 10 mark.

Which limits things substantially for the rippers, insofar as selling prints are concerned.
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07/23/17 12:27 AM GMT
I assumed that was what you meant by "rippers" ... although I suppose in this day and age, knife wielding madmen also wouldn't be out of the question. :)

Thank you for taking the time to comment, purmusic.
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07/31/17 1:39 AM GMT
".. knife wielding madmen also wouldn't be out of the question.. ."

Ahh, so you've seen me around a block of cheese, then.

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Holy crapperz.. my cheese cutting methods need an update!
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08/01/17 2:08 AM GMT
(Sneaks two crackers, a slice of cheddar, and a slice of mozzarella off the tray)

(Crunch crunch crunch)
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08/01/17 11:55 PM GMT
(*throws a grape at Lisa.. hides behind the couch*)
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08/02/17 3:52 AM GMT

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08/02/17 10:38 AM GMT
"And it was quite the game, Jim. From what we heard from Coach Belichick in your exclusive interview with him, this just might be their season to win. Turning to the weather.. "

"Hang on folks, just now getting a message from our producer. We are going to go live to the press conference that everyone has been waiting on and will return afterwards with the local weather. Carol? You there?"

... ...


... ...

'Yes, Ron.. we are here live at the press conference today being held by Purmusic as he tries to get ahead of the narrative that has been shaping up in the public arena as to whether or not he was the one responsible for the.. the.. (*looks at notes*).. what is being referred to as "FruitGate". He's at the mic now, let's listen in.. '

"Good afternoon, everyone. I am here of my own accord to address the wild and unsubstantiated rumours that it was me.. me.. that was responsible for the grape that was directed at Questjester during a recent arts symposium.

First and foremost I am wishing Ms. Questjester well, as she recovers from this most unfortunate incident. It's a terrible thing for her to endure, as I am well aware of her fondness for cheese platters and of course, grapes. No one should have to go through this, let alone, live it out in front of everyone. 'Respect the cheese plate and it's fruitful accroutrements', is what I always say.

Now then.. as to the questions that have been swirling about.

Was I there? Yes. However, at the time of the incident I was not in the immediate vicinity where everything went down. I had excused myself to step out in the hallway to take a pressing call.. "

(*boos from the crowd are heard*)

I know. I know. I don't have anyone to step up and vouch for me, and unfortunately.. I can't support that I did, in fact, take a call at that time, as my phone provider.. well, you guys know how terrible Verizon is, right? In my attempts to secure my cell phone records from that day.. I have met nothing but roadblocks, such as interminable waiting times after having been placed on hold.. waiting to speak to someone in authority. You guys get that? Right?"

(*boos and taunts are becoming louder as more of the crowd joins in*)

"No.. please hear me out! Please! I am trying to clear my name here! This is important to me and to the investigation of just who exactly is responsible!"

'2, 4 6.. 8.. we don't appreciate the man-explainate! 2, 4, 6..'

"Oh, yeah?! You think you know everything, do you?! Lemme tell you, you can all.. "

(*live feed is cut*)

"Carol? Carol, you still there?"

'Yes, Ron.. we just witnessed a barrage of grapes being thrown at Mr. Purmusic by the crowd. They are not buying into his professed innocence and they are certainly letting their feelings be known.. by.. the very fruit that is at the root of all this.. grapes. We will continue to report and keep our viewers informed on this as things unfold further. Ron.. back to you in the studio.'

"Thank you, Carol. Well, folks.. there you have it. As you may have seen and heard.. this story is not going to go away anytime soon for Purmusic. You can visit our website and cast a vote on the current poll that we have up and running and tell us.. what you think. Innocent? Or, put him in stocks in the public square?"

"Me? Personally? I wouldn't mind tossing a few fruits and vegetables myself at this ne'er do well. Never did like the guy's art.. I mean, really? Fractals? More like.. Spirograph and that is sooooo.. 60s, 70s kid stuff."

"Right, turning back to the weather.. for the next couple of days the forecast is looking great for summer barbeques and get-togethers. Tomorrow will reach into the high 80s, with nothing but sunshine falling our way. This should continue on through and till.. "
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08/02/17 4:10 PM GMT
I'm a little worried by Canadian news...?
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