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SithDave
09/02/05 7:46 PM GMT
WOULDN'T YOU LIKE HELP -- WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND
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::Radjehuty
09/02/05 8:41 PM GMT
I would if I could, but unfortunately gas prices have litterally cleaned me out.
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"The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it." -Chinese Proverb
SithDave
09/02/05 9:13 PM GMT
I know, I lived in California, Irvine to be exact around here they are around $3.40 or some where around there. I know... believe me I know. Just hope oe day that is not anyone of us that needs help like they need help.
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::Radjehuty
09/03/05 3:02 AM GMT
I hear ya, It's about 3.40 in here in Connecticut also...the prices are just litterally rising by the hour.

I actually have donated some non-perishables, but I wish I could have done more.
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"The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it." -Chinese Proverb
+camerahound
09/03/05 3:05 AM GMT
Rumor or fact? I just heard that Japan has donated five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000). With allies like that, who needs enemies?
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Jeffo
09/03/05 5:06 AM GMT
3.40 oh boo hoo... it is 1.45 a liter here which equils 5.80 a gallon

and about a donation will prob be made later once it is needed more(when they are trying to establish more rather then moving ppl)
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fantom
09/03/05 6:04 AM GMT
All to often latley we seem to be watching helplessly at some disaster somewhere in the world, wheather it is in Asia Europe or America the pain and suffering is always the same, and always it is the individual that pays the price.
Whilst there is very little that we can do please know that our thoughts and best wishes are with you.
Keep your chin up America, remember that you are the mightiest nation on Earth and I am sure that you will overcome these disasters and be bigger and stronger for it.
Russell
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SithDave
09/03/05 10:13 PM GMT
I'm not trying to stir up nothing Mr. Jeffo or Fantom but it is sad what you see.
1.truth is they were and maybe still dying of hunger, I know I wouldn't like to die of hunger.
2. No one came for help
That is the truth, educate yourself search around the web and see it for yourself.
I'm not making anything up. I'm not telling you to give money but just maybe make you aware of what is going on. You choose to do whatever YOU decide, I am only spreading the word.


www.redcross.org

HELP THEM
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::verenabloo
09/04/05 1:21 AM GMT
fantom thank you so much for not slamming the usa...we have many problems here , and it is a HUGE country..with many individual laws in each state, making it difficult..and there are rich people who are selfish yes, but to whine and crab about things gets nothing done. So I truly appreciaTe your kindness in being supportive to give some positive feedback. Please take a moment to see my photo of the yellow rose..the writing there I got from a book called "Apples of Gold" and I thught it was very positive also..thanx again..!! hugs to you and all the good strong people....for the positiveness.
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prismmagic
09/04/05 5:45 AM GMT
Jeffo what does the average 3 bedroom home home cost in your area of Canada.
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fantom
09/04/05 12:39 AM GMT
No one is saying that people are not dying of hunger but think of the logistics involved, No one is saying that it could not have been handled better but hindsight is a great thing,
No one is saying that the people are not angry from the perceived feeling of being ignored but I'm sure that the hearts and minds of all in control had only one thing on their mind ... to get the people out as quickly as possible.
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::CaptainHero
09/04/05 1:49 PM GMT
It all comes down to expectation, I think. People expected that once nature had flexed it muscles and dealt a body blow to the US that the authorities would click their fingers and make all right again. Well, that was never really going to happen. Once that storm surge breached the levees, there was only really going to be one outcome. I'm sure in hindsight it will be easy to criticise the aid effort. Ray Nagin, I notice seems keen to turn the flashlight of scrutiny anywhere other than himself.

This experience I think has exposed much about complacency and also social attitudes. Hopefully positive lessons will be learned.

On the plus side, the latest reports indicate that the situation seems to now be very much under control. Hopefully this is good news for all the displaced people in the affected areas. Like everyone else, I'm hoping that the human cost is not as bad as it appears to be. Doubtless the political fallout will be continuing for some time.

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prismmagic
09/04/05 5:16 PM GMT
Beleave the situation is not under control.
People have been displaced, families have been split up. one women was saying that her children where sent some where else with out knowing where they went. Remember your talking of a town in which 3/4 of it was under water. With a large amount of them mostly old buildings and that there uderling foudations are well over 150 years old their will be large scale dimolition and
re-construction.
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::verenabloo
09/07/05 5:33 AM GMT
Does anyone here know a woman named "Laeken"?? she lived in New Orleans..and I want to find her...not sure if I can...
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::regmar
09/11/05 2:43 AM GMT
A year and a half ago I had been working for two years in the programs and project management group at the Army Corps of Engineers in New Orleans. They are the group responsible for maintaining the levees and handling flood control structures in and around the Port of New Orleans. At that time the invasion of Iraq had been going on for some time, and the amount the president had told us all it was going to cost had been wildly underestimated. Since he was so bent on his tax-cuts, and he was fully aware of what happened to his daddy when he raised taxes, he didn't want to appropriate more money to pay for his war. Instead he cut funding for the Pentagon projects that didn't directly support the war. This meant the flood control investments for the Port of New Orleans. The result was unemployment and neglect of the structures the Corps of Engineers was supposed to maintain. This was a gamble with the lives of thousands of New Orleaneans, but they voted against the party in power anyway, so who cared?

We at the Corps knew what was going to happen, and we said so, but our advice fell on deaf ears. Our budget was cut to the bone. Almost every project immediately stopped, because we had been existing on the promise of money - not the actual money itself. Most of the contractors who did the work went out of business or laid off all their employees and left town. This is why the levees were neglected, and ultimately why that wave swamped the 9th ward when it overtopped the now-reduced levees.

When the worst happened the federal governement's response was too little too late. By the time Mayor Nagin shamed the president into doing something it was already too late for thousands of people who perished in their attics awaiting help that never came. Wal-Mart got there before FEMA, and disaster relief isn't even their jobs. For heaven's sake, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police got there three days before the federal government! It turned out that the president had put a hack in charge of FEMA, and the guy panicked when the worst occurred. It was individuals that made a difference in spite of our government. The local Coast Guard did bang-up work as did the New Orleans and Jefferson Parish Police Departments. When Bush finally got his head out of that place he had it it was too late for many.

There are those saying now isn't the time to be placing blame for this tragedy. I say, "No! Now is exactly the time to placing blame." Let's do it now before Janet Jackson's breast or some cat in a tree distracts the nation from the deaths that have devastated our city. We all know who is responsible for this. The fault does not lie with the local officials who have been screaming for years to rebuild the levees. It lies with those who ignored them, so they could finance a war and three tax cuts that put what, $500 in our pockets? I'm mad as hell, and come election time I'm not going to take it any more.

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::Morwyn
09/11/05 2:56 AM GMT
Thank you, Regmar.. Those tax cuts were for his rich friends, not the average person.
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One bead at a time..
::regmar
09/11/05 1:07 PM GMT
As long as it was just about money it was just about money, if you understand what I mean. I lost a friend, though in this gamble they took. What am I going to get out of this stupid war I ask? Cheap gas? Doesn't look like it. Fewer terrorists? Doesn't look that way. I'll tell you what I got out of this war - my home town is irreparably damaged, and my friend dead. Thank you Mr. President. And Goodbye.
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SithDave
09/11/05 8:21 PM GMT
Well not to be a d**k but everyone new who our PRESIDENT is and what a piece of crap he is. Looking out for his invesments and friends. It is sad that it takes something like these to happen before you realize who THE people have elected. I think about the U.S President an ex-cocaine addict and good for nothing talker (just listen to him). Adams, Washington, Teddy R., Kennedy and on and on, SMART men who really care what THERE people needed now we have BUSH you tell me if that's sound good to you. By the way I voted for Kerry because I had always know who our current president is and will be.

Let's make a change and vote for a smart men someone who KNOWS there people. Not another DUMD**S bush.
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mimi5947
09/14/05 5:28 AM GMT
Regmar and others: My son is a firefighter/paramedic who trains once a month for FEMA. He is in Urban Search & Rescue (USAR). His task force of 40 highly trained members and 28 other teams of the same caliber were deployed to stage just above the hurricane area on August 27th to provide medical assistance after the hurricane struck. . On Aug. 29, he was moved into Metaire, LA & began the horrifying/terrifying job of rescuing those people who did not evacuate. This was not their original mission, but not one of them objected to putting their life in danger to save people. He was under armed guard at all times due to the thugs that were attempting to shoot the rescuers. He slept in a vehicle with 2 other big men. They never could stretch out. He rode in every type of watercraft that could be used for rescues. He flew in helicopters so he could reach people in areas that were inaccessible. He lived the same as everyone else there. They had to scavenge for water for themselves and gas for their vehicles. He ate MRE's & he did not shower or have any kind of personal care for his entire deployment. He grew green & white fungus on his feet from them being wet all the time. He returned home on Sept.7. Upon his return, the entire USAR team was greeted as heroes because the group had 7,000+ rescues to their credit. He was under the direction of FEMA director Mike Brown. Late last night, his pager went off and he left at daylight this morning. He has been re-deployed to the same area for another 12-day search & rescue effort (as far as we know). This time 70+members of the USAR task force are going because of the deplorable conditions. Again, he will sleep in a vehicle, eat MRE's, grow stuff on his feet, not have any personal care or grooming & hopefully return home a hero one more time. Each time he leaves, at home is his wife, his daughter & son (my beautiful grandchildren), a Mom who cries every day while he is gone & prays for his safety, a Dad who is extremely proud of him, a sister who worries herself sick about him, nieces & nephews, aunts, uncles, cousins and a host of family who accept his dedication to saving lives. Everyone who is in New Orleans and surrounding areas needs to be remembered. As this is being posted, my son is pulling into New Orleans to help.....again.
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~ Mimi~
::regmar
09/14/05 6:47 PM GMT
The people of this area have nothing but thanks for those individuals who are giving their time, effort, and hospitality to help out in this time of need. I think a lot of people are neglecting to realize that the people who actually did something are the heros in this affair. It's damned unfortunate that most of them (including those under direction of the federal government) had their budgets slashed so the money could go to pay for "more important" priorities. Having worked for a branch of the DOD before this storm crashed into my life I know that the individuals working on solving the problems do fantastic work on steadily shrinking pools of resources and should be commended for the accomplishments they managed to pull off while those appointees at the top of their bureaucracies siphon off their budgets and manpower for political goals. Our best wishes and thanks go to your son and his colleagues for all the wonderful work they have done.
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mimi5947
09/15/05 8:33 AM GMT
*update* small glimmers of hope are visible where my son's base camp is located. He said it is quite different from when he left 7 days ago. There is electric available albeit it limited. There are visible street lights and the ground is dry enough that they were able to set up a camp, so no more sleeping in a car for him! He is very grateful to all who have worked so hard in the area of New Orleans where he is.........he said he deeply appreciates the small things. A tent with a sleeping bag, a portable shower, a port-a potty & no gunslinging thugs threatening the rescuer's. There is hope and for that,we are grateful :~)
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