A book I've been reading made a point about one of the key differences between a website and a physical space you might explore in the real world such as a store or a museum.

The difference I’m referring to is that with a website you have no sense of scale. If you’ve been to 10 pages on some website, do you have any idea how big that site is? Are there 100 other pages? 1,000 other pages? If you’re exploring a mall or a zoo or something, you always have some idea of how much of it you’ve seen.

It got me to thinking… How big is Caedes? This site has such an intimate feel that I have always thought of it as feeling like it consists of 100-200 total pages. Of course in reality there are many more pages here. But how many? Think about this:

Total images – 16,837 at press time. Every image appears in two galleries, one category, and one user gallery, plus each image has its own discussion page. [((16,837 / 36) * 2) + 16,837 = approx. 17,772 web pages].

Total active users – 6,149 at press time. Each user has a profile page and a favorites gallery (I’ll just assume one page average favorites gallery size). [6,149 * 2 = 12,298 web pages].

Discussion board threads – approx. [3,000 web pages].

Miscellaneous other features – approx. [200 web pages].

Total = More than 33,000 web pages

I’ve used generous assumptions for galleries, i.e. 36 images per page rather than 8 per page, and not considering the enormous number of gallery pages that even though they are sorted at 36 per page probably only have 1-10 images (user galleries in particular). I also disregarded all the full screen image display pages (about 5 per image, that’s a lot of pages). I’m counting the voting booth for one page even though it is different every time you view it. So in reality, Caedes is a lot larger than even this estimate, and some of those web pages (i.e. user profiles, forum discussions, even image discussions) are the equivalent of many many web pages in one.

Have you seen all of Caedes today?

Well, since Caedes is a dynamically scripted, database-driven site, it's as big or small as you want it to be (it doesn't really have 'x' number of pages as such). Think of it as a small portable space that travels around with you - you'll never see how big it is because it's only as big as what you see.

I realize that Matthew, but I was referring to the notion of everything that Caedes has to offer content-wise, not the number of unique files on a server somewhere. This site is just a great example of "if you build it, they will come". It's a good thing Geri designed this site to be automated. Where would we be without databases :)

I'm sure you guys are right, but I've always had the impression of being in a virtual high school....

Keep it simple.. Makes life easier..

That's because you've been reading the bathroom walls ... again

Too true....But I lost debbie's phone number & if it's true... ! She should meet my brother Charlie

Yes .. It IS true .. I've got debbie's phone number .. and ... no ... she doesn't want to meet your brother .. and why would she, I give her all that she needs

Yes??

Sez YOU ......that's not the rumors written in the girls locker room....

Ask not for whom the nose blinks, it blinks for thee....

cuz your night blind

** ponders if he put his ear up to the off topic forum, whether or not he'd be able to hear the ocean :-) **

Think of us as Cadbury Flakes

is that regular, dipped or nutty Flakes?

chocolate dipped

(*raises hand*) .. nutty, here

Truer words were never spoken !

Insanity is such fun..Everyone should try it..

Well, apparently it's contagious

I'm glad I read this discussion since the title didn't exactly make it clear what it was about. I think a caedes.net Zeitgeist would be preety fun to make. We can come up with all kinds of crazy facts and statistics.

*explodes*

Sombody come clean up this mess. My back hurts..

*cleans up mess*

I've got an idea for a crazy statistic to be researched.....how often & how weirdly a thread goes off course.....And how quickly And whether the addition of certain individuals who shall remain nameless contributes meaningfully to said threads insanity.....

and how many times Keith *explodes... LOL

well .. let's keep things in perspective ... Elves, goblins, or munchkins are not doing the research ... do you know what a 5 pound bag of Munchkin Chow costs?

It will likely be a heavily modified Bayesian text filter (*keith's head begins to swell as he pretends to know what he's talking about*) .. so heavily modified, in fact, that it'll become a Caedesian Text Filter (*keith's nose begins to grow as he continues to fool only himself*) ... this script will swim through the database, like a shark, havesting factoids (*keith's shirt becomes tight .. his pants seams begin to rip*) ... and leave them piled up in the morning when *caedes has finished his cheerios and has expended the allotment of playstation2 time his mom allows (*with rivets popping and buttons flying, green skin expanding .. keith becomes the .. incredible bulk*)

Maybe if we bought a lot of Munchkin Chow we could get a rice break ... I'll check

I did not, ... repeat, I ... did not look up Britney Spears in a search.

And I have solemnly promised a vow of silence on who it was.

(p.s. Five bucks to P.O. Box 1234, Station 'C' and the name is yours.
Please supply a SASE for your reply.)

*laughs uncontrollably* :-D

Well, all I know is I'm NOT cleaning up after The Incredible Bulk.....he can do his own damn cleaning......

Or call Merry Maids

Hmm, that comment seems out place for the 'season.' Where is the love?

However ... now my curiosity is peaked. Exactly how does the Incredible Bulk get worked up anyhew? Is he green? Can he parallel park? Enquiring minds want to know.

I'm just putting in a pre-emptive denial of all cleaning when Ol' Blinky there explodes.....

And he will, just you wait

Keith's cheeks begin to bulge ... (*implodes*) ..


cleaner that way

*moves remains into sewer drain*

* leaving only 2 orbs resembling sapphires & a teeny blinking red light, *

causing cats to gather & try to catch the toy, endlessly

So pleased you lot are cleaning him up.. its usually me that has to do it.. *sits back feet up with iced drink and watches... Oi.. you missed a piece over there...

*wipes spot clean*

You know, if you keep cleaning up after him, he'll never learn.

LOL

And the alternative? Not to clean up?

And then let our poor, fair-nosed imp fester in a pool of noxious liquids? Never, not as long as ... OH MY GOD!!! ... What is that stuff??!!

Count me out, you are on your own here Rudolph.

LOL

*ponders.....fits Keith with a bubble to live in*

There, you can explode quite happily without making a mess.

Oh, thank you..

Ohhh, look ... I found this needle in the '20 Questions' thread.

Hmm, now what does one exactly do with such a sharp pointy thing?

A Caedesian tattoo ?

Ok, I will leave bubble boy alone then. It was tempting.

Hmm, a Caedesian tattoo ... that would be cool. Now ... where to place the ink?

On bubble boy's blinker ?

Really ... Keith ...it will only hurt a bit.

Who wouldn't want a spider on their nose?

Separate those hearty women that don't run away at first sight, and can handle a little bug by their lonesome without cowering in fear in a closet till 'daddy' gets home, from the high maintenance three cans of Raids type kind of women.

Those ... those women are trouble, let me tell ya.

ROFLMAO.....

I just had this sudden visual of him putting a black light bulb in there.....
the lights are off, the music's soft & jazzy, kinda low,

and there's a blinking purple spider on the wall driving all the neighborhood cats into a wild eyed shrieking clawing frenzy......

Forget the houka, lol, I think Lauren is in Timothy Leary territory now.

If the Caedes site wasn't so restrictive with avatar size more could be done with animation .. I originally made "blinky" to a slower beat .. but had to hack it back to two frames .. thus, we have the Double Mocha Latte (hold the Mocha \ Hold the Latte) version ... or in certain parts of town .. known simply as the crystal-meth version

with a generous size of, say, 16 megs, I could do a "black light" version .. posters on the wall .. a little Barry White on the stereo ...

send a PM to *caedes .. let your voice be heard

Now ... that ... I would like to see.

(The "black light" version, that is, and yes, bumping up the file size to a lesser extent. To be clear. Another trait of those 'archers;' clarity of thought and dissertation. Oh, and that they like to have their bellys tickled.)

Speak for yourself bub. I'm way too ticklish

I had a really awesome avatar that once I got it down to the reg kb size, lost all it's cool animation, 16 megs would be terrific. Oh, that clarity of thought thing is great, 'cept I'm in no way a lateral thinker, you might have guessed

The icon creator I used to have allowed you to dictate how long each frame "Lasted" without having to add extra frames of the same image (at least that's as recall it, haven't used Microangelo for years now).

Yeah .. I have microangelo .. not sure of the version at the moment .. It seemed to be limited to 32x32 or 48x48 .. and yes .. I used to make "busy pointers" with the "jiffies" (1/60th of a second or whatever it was)

I tried to figure it out with "image ready" (comes with photoshop) .. and couldn't make heads or tails of it .. I did use it to optimize my GIFs though

so .. I ended up using a wizard with GIF Construction Set

I tried to make Tutu blink but she didn't like it so I gave her a flower and ribbon instead..

Oi! baby big ears.. where's your santa hat? hmmm? your heads getting cold... :PPPPP

Don't you think a santa hat would detract from the joy of his nose ? I'm just grateful this site isn't audio too

Oh my, good thing he can laugh at himself..

I use Animation Shop 3 for my images. Actually, if we could get the image size up to 6K I would be happier...*grovels before Caedes*

I hate to burst the bubbles of hope here, but their are two reasons that icon size is restricted to 5kbytes.

1. They have to download instantly on any connection.

2. I don't want to encourage much (if any) animation.

So you can see I would be unlikely to increase the file size for the purpose of enabling more animation.

"Daddy, that man with the eye is mean."

*goes off and pouts*

... leading to a life of bitter disappointment and trials and tribulations with authority figures, culminating in the little boy's demise where in an Unreal Tournament against a formidable opponent named 'sLaUGhteR,' he comes face to face with his nemesis ...

"Remember me, Caedes? ... well, bring it on ... this time I am wiser and ready ..."

I got to start cutting out the caffeine after 9 p.m., maybe 8.

rotflmao

No more of that unadulterated Earl Gray, that's for sure

Back to buying it on the street with the other tea junkies.....

Where it's processed & cut with that horrible poison known as LIPTON

Lol. Ohh, we are, indeed, a strange bunch.

What sign are you?

Sagittarius, was there any doubt ??!!!

yes .. she's on the list .. check it if you don't believe me .. g'won

Hey Les, where ya been !

he probably walked the wrong way after getting dizzy lookin @ his icon :)

Anyone could get dizzy looking at that.. Personally I like the blinky nose..

Lol. It never occurred to me that my avatar might be, hmm, distracting. I will let you in on a little secret ...

*whispers ... 'come closer' ...*

The reason, this icon and my other lovable alien was used, was to aid me in finding 'myself' on a page. There, my one and only secret is out ... if you don't count that summer camp incident ;) .

That's why Tutu is mine.. Never another cat like her.. I could find her in a room of a thousand calico persians..

That's why I like my flapper avatar, no one else on site has one like it ...& besides, it's so me !

Hmm ... let's see what wikipedia has to say:

"The term "flapper", which became common slang in the 1920s, referred to a "new breed" of young women who wore short skirts, bobbed their hair and flaunted their disdain for what was then considered "decent" behavior. The typical flapper was unafraid to wear cosmetics or to be seen smoking or drinking alcoholic beverages in public."

... or ... according to American Standard:

"Disc-like rubber composite that retains water in the tank. Upon flushing cycle lifts to release water out of tank to the bowl for a complete flushing cycle."

Ok, back to my usual state of confusion. Nothing to see here, move along folks :) .

I think American Standard got it right .. like she said .. "It's SO me

Lol ... uhm, yeah.

Poor Lauren.. I think they got you... Tutu still loves you..

Thought for the day : Boo Doo Bee Doo or

Boo Doo Dee Boop

No, Ann, " they " didn't get me ...lesser mortals that they are

After all, I'm stylin' ! Me & my 50, 000 Christmas avatars

Some words for you Blinky, clap on, clap off

and hugs to Tutu too ...

Tutu thanks you and wants to know where her comb is.. She has a huge knot in her furpants..

Tell Tutu sorry, can't help her, her knotty furpants sounds like a personel problem to me !

Sometimes, ya know, I get my furpants all in a knot, too.

Usually, it's over trivial things though ;) .

We found the comb.. Would you like to borrow it?

Lololol ... ahh, that one hit the 'ol funny bone.

Ohh, you would shudder to know that my mom would use a pair of scissors ... not to cut ... but to 'pare' out the knots, almost strand by strand. But, 'Blue' would sit pretty and not make a fuss. That was the unbelievable part.

Uh ... what was this thread about again??

Does it really matter...

Size, & I compared it to a high school, & it kinda went downhill from there

So, Les, how's by you ?

No complaints and quite looking forward to putting my feet up for a few days.

How things with your ownself?

Fair to middlin' myself, thanks

*proud of his first attempt with photoshop* hehe, I've got a christmas hat.

YAAAYYYY !!!! *whistles & cheers wildly * Whooo-hooo !!

Marvelous.. Looks good on you..

thanks =P

Stylin'.

it doesn't blink

Only your adorable nose is allowed to blink

Let's recap, last year he had a santa hat, right ? This year, Rudolph's nose ....okay, my 5 bucks sez next year it's antlers

I was torn between the antlers & elf's ears, had to toss a coin

Aww, his ears are so cute now...

hmmm *mental math... bald + big ears + blinking nose = cute???..* looks like I need to re-think my style...

Well Matt, style, like Art, is just so subjective

you just never know what's gonna grab the hoi polloi

I like anything that's cute.. Big ears is cute.. Red balls on hats are cute..

I'm cute !

Im a gorrilla, i need a haircut

tis a good thing i'm cute... tg... cuz otherwise somebody woulda offed me & my sarcastic mouth ages ago!

You're the gorilla my dreams, Cat