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.jmar

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Real Name:
John
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Location:
Richmond Hill, Ontario 
Birthday:
27 Jan 1955 (62 years) 
Membership:
07/30/04 1:51 AM GMT09/27/14 7:42 PM GMT 

Recent Works by jmar: (full gallery)

Georgian Bay by jmar, Photography->Water gallery Rat Lake #1 by jmar, Photography->Landscape gallery Lone post by jmar, photography->landscape gallery
Georgian Bay Rat Lake #1 Lone post

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+mayne
10/23/04 3:30 PM GMT
Hi John! Thank you for the wonderful words on "Ancient Fossil Forest, "Supplicants", "Avian Journey" and "Peacefull Days". Very much appreciated and a nice surprise;-)
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Darryl
::JOHANNA
10/30/04 7:11 AM GMT
Thanks for your comment on "moonlandscape in Lanzarote", much appreciated.
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Carpe diem. Graphics Galore
Accipiter
10/30/04 1:20 PM GMT
John, thanks for your comment on Fog at Pulpit Rock. I actually got a little lost in the fog and came on this scene unexpectedly. Glad you liked the photo! ...Mike
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co2metal
10/30/04 3:55 PM GMT
thanks john for the comment and vote on "pandemonium".. much appreciated
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keepin' it real
Jeremy805
11/02/04 3:19 PM GMT
Thank you for taking the time to comment on "Tree Graveyard" I really appreciate the comments of fellow posters on this site. To answer your question, this photo was taken about 5 minutes from my house. Upstate NY, Hudson Valley, about 2 hours North of NYC.
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"Let a man listen to his dream so he may hear the story of all men and let him say as he did when he was a child: this is true; it does not matter what they tell me." -William Wantling
atinman
11/03/04 1:07 PM GMT
John, Thanks for the comment on "Medusa". It's a type of orchid. appreciate yor taking the time to look at and comment. andrew
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The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it. Psalm 37:29
Stevenet
11/06/04 11:02 AM GMT
Hi John, and thank you for your comment on "SuperCell"
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"May those who love us love us, and those who do not love us, may God turn their hearts, and if He cannot turn their hearts may He turn their ankles that we may know them by their limping" Irish Prayer
bjb
11/06/04 11:16 PM GMT
John, I appreciate you taking the time to leave me such a nice comment on "Fall Chain of Pools."
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There are two ways to spread the light. To be the candle or the mirror that reflects it. -Edith Wharton
+ppigeon
11/07/04 6:22 PM GMT
Thank you for 'The Pedrera - Staircase 2', John.
About 'Namib desert 8': yes, I took hundreds pictures in this wonderful country. Thanks
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-Pierre-
::Torque
11/07/04 8:10 PM GMT
Hey John, thanks for all your recent comments on my photos. I really appreciate it. To answer your question on (Reflecting at Day's End), I took the picture on my recent trip to Germany, this little marina town was just off of a large lake south of Munich. Thanks again :)
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~My select image - Wading Patiently
heidlerr
11/08/04 9:41 PM GMT
Thanks John for your honest comments on my Pear photo. I went for a dramatic lighting on a simple object to explore the beauty of this single pear. I'm glad that you liked it and I enjoy your comments.
Russ
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View life with your minds eye!
Phil2001
11/20/04 3:59 PM GMT
Thanks for the comment John!
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The Old Lie "Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori."
F0CUS
11/23/04 3:31 AM GMT
Thanks for your comment on "Algarve Cliffs", I'm glad you liked it.

Regards,
Simon
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Delusionist
11/29/04 7:04 AM GMT
Thanks John for your generous comment on "Cotton Candy Moonrise" I'm glad you liked those colors, I agree they're not that common at all :)
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"We may throw the dice, but the LORD determines how they fall." -- NLT Proverbs 16:33
heidlerr
11/29/04 12:58 AM GMT
Thank you John for your feedback on my Train Wheel photo. I'm glad that you liked it enough to make the nice comments. It looked like a mechanical face to me when I first saw it.
Russ
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If we cannot live so as to be happy, let us least live so as to deserve it. Immanuel Hermann Fichte
heidlerr
11/29/04 1:02 PM GMT
Hello John! Thanks for viewing and commenting on my Baskets photo. I'm glad that you enjoyed it. Those baskets were the only thing in the room and they were sitting in the sunlight just begging to be photographed.
Russ
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If we cannot live so as to be happy, let us least live so as to deserve it. Immanuel Hermann Fichte
trisbert
12/01/04 5:20 AM GMT
Hello John, thanks for commenting on "Alectown Landscape". I gather it reminds you a little of home. I'm pleased you like it.
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There are three colours, Ten digits and seven notes, its what we do with them that’s important. Ruth Ross
portorico
12/02/04 2:37 AM GMT
Thanks john for your comments on «Filet de pêche»... I appreciated and i glad than you liked it!
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::photoimagery
12/03/04 11:46 PM GMT
Hello John: Thanks for the comments on "Gathering Storm" & "River Commerce". I'm pleased you liked them.
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::photoimagery
12/03/04 11:55 PM GMT
Wow John you've been busy. Thanks for your support and I'm glad you liked "Smoky Mountain Dreamscape". It really is a most beautiful place to visit in the fall.
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mythica
12/05/04 7:24 PM GMT
Hey John, That's OK! Us texture Freaks have to stick together!!!
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I think, therefore I thwim. Funkeeee Space Disco - Grooveeee!!
PuMa
12/07/04 7:10 AM GMT
Thanks John, for the nice words on; 'Yellow Madness', it's really appreciated and I'm glad you like it.
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Just be.
trisweb
12/13/04 11:31 AM GMT
Thanks for your comments on Lembert Dome and Another Eastbay Sunset -- about the first, yes, I actually did rattle off a *lot* of pictures there. Very photogenic. Made me wish I had more memory and a better camera :)
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::Neamh
01/09/05 3:51 PM GMT
Thanks John for the comments on "Winters Shadows..Much appreciated.
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::ryanrahn
01/12/05 11:23 PM GMT
Thank you for your comment on "Summer Sunset". Your input is appreciated. :)
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Ryan
F0CUS
01/21/05 2:23 AM GMT
Thanks for your comment on "The Lost Farmer"!

Regards,
Simon
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Look! It's me! Ah! Scary!
oowenaas
02/03/05 7:44 PM GMT
Thanks for the comment on "Youghiogheny Falls." I know they fish there, but I'm no fisherman myself and can't say what exactly they reel in. :>
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MiLo_Anderson
02/05/05 6:50 AM GMT
Thanks for commenting on those three pictures. I was wondering there was other people like me who sometimes just start looking through one persons gallery.
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"A piece of toast with butter always lands butter side down, and a cat always lands on its feet. What happens if a piece of toast is tied butter side down to the back of a cat? Does it perpetually hover above the ground in indecision when dropped?"
rvrman21
02/16/05 12:47 AM GMT
Thanks for looking and thanks for the comments
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alanoliver
02/19/05 12:57 AM GMT
Thanks for your kind comment on "Kauai Mountains"
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Friendship isn't a big thing......it's a million little things.
::RobNevin
02/23/05 12:16 AM GMT
Hey John, thanks for your comments on my posting Falls in Bracebridge 1. It is a wonderful waterfall, regardless of season.
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::RobNevin
04/01/05 12:44 AM GMT
Hey John .. thanks for your comments on the "Gooo o' sugar shack" , my posting Warm days, cold nights 4. Glad you liked it. We're all off to the Elmira Maple Syrup festival on Saturday. The intimate gathering of 60,000. We've long since learned to arrive early and leave early before the crush of the crowd!


Rob
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::heidlerr
04/16/05 2:33 PM GMT
Thanks John for the nice comments and votes for this image. Dog Ball was an unplanned grab shot that turned out nice. I'm glad that you could see the beauty in common everyday stuff. No it's not shag carpet but it is old like me. I just wish that I had a camera when viewing the millions of images that I didn't photograph in my life.
Russ
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"Anything that excites me for any reason, I will photograph; not searching for unusual subject matter, but making the commonplace unusual." Edward Weston
::RobNevin
06/09/05 10:47 AM GMT
Hey John, you can be sure that it's not my yard (posting = "some peoples desktop"). It was found on a backroad near Thedford, Ontario. I'll have to go back and get some more shots .. it was probably 3 acres surrounding an abandoned farm house with every turn providing the same density of JUNK! ...fun to see but I sure wouldn't want to start the clean up with anything less than a bulldozer!

Thanks for the comment.


Rob
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You're invited to tour my gallery ••• º¹º¹ºº¹¹º¹¹º¹ºººº¹¹º¹ºººº¹¹º¹ººº
::Paul_Gerritsen
07/07/05 8:17 PM GMT
Hello John,
thank you for taking some time to write a comment on Reed Land!
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If you can't find the words, you may as well shoot it...
::noranda
07/25/05 4:53 PM GMT
Hi John,thanks for nice comments and vote at "Le Ravage Des Castors 5".Much appreciated.
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René
monkeypuzzle
08/03/05 5:58 PM GMT
Hi John, thanx for ur encouraging comments on 'red hot poker' much appreciated support :~)
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Beware the anti-cinnamon stare!!!
noranda
08/05/05 4:01 AM GMT
Hi John,
Thanks for nice comments and vote at "Au Coeur De La Nature".Much appreciated.
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René
mesmerized
08/20/05 11:51 AM GMT
Hi John...thank you for your appreciation of Water Colors #10...glad you liked it well enough for your desktop...yes, it was fascinating watching the colors and changing sky as it grew more threatening...I appreciate your visit and nice comments.:Pat.
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Join me and Let's Talk.
::RobNevin
08/26/05 8:25 PM GMT
Hey John, thanks for your comment on the posting "Romanes Car" .. hard to resist a good rusty wreck.

;)


Rob
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+ppigeon
08/28/05 6:03 PM GMT
Hello John. Just one year since you joined the site. Happy birthday ;-)
Thanks for looking at 'New movie theater'. About the architecture, I visited the town of Quebec a few years ago. The architecture is very similar than in Belgium... :-)
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-pierre-
heidlerr
08/28/05 11:02 PM GMT
Stir Fry Starter Kit was just the starting items for my stir fry. I added garlic, sugar peas, broccoli, bean sprouts, water chestnuts, baby corn, shrimp, chicken and a stir fry sauce. The original ingredients were just too pretty not to use for a still life. I'm glad you like it. Thanks for the nice comments John. I appreciate your support of this image.
Russ
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"My own eyes are no more than scouts on a preliminary search, for the camera's eye may entirely change my idea." Edward Weston
::stormdancer
08/30/05 10:46 AM GMT
Hi John
Thanks for your nice comment on "Old Belgian mining compex 3"
Its for sure a photographers dream over there and i made a lot of shots there
I posted 4 of them..but didn't got the idea they were appreciated so much...so I won't post anymore of them.
But I am glad you like it.

Paul
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"pleasure in life you get by giving". You are welcom to visit my gallery
prismmagic
09/02/05 6:17 PM GMT
Califonia Coast line.
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Thank you John for the support.
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Art is the perception of the creator. Meaning is the perception of the viewer. acceptance is the perception of society.
indian
09/06/05 7:32 PM GMT
glad u liked the flowers in PURITY. I think u r right about them being in Hawaii. They are quite popular in South of India
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"Nothing is more exhilirating than pointing out the shortcomings of others".
portorico
09/21/05 2:10 AM GMT
Hello John!! Nice comments on «rest area», thank you! The town of Tadoussac is located at Quebec, more particularly close to the town of Quebec.
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Forester
10/18/05 10:40 AM GMT
Thank you John for your comment on "Retired". I have another snapshot on this boat, which in my opinion is better, but unfortunately there are some caravans in the background.
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The Artist Formerly Known as B1aze!
endlesdreamz
10/24/05 1:42 PM GMT
Hey John, yes I loved the pic. I am a NEWBIE here really as far as comments goes... :) But have really been getting into it lately. P.S. TY for liking my Icon!!! ;)
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::BernieSpeed
11/13/05 6:04 PM GMT
Hi John, thank you for leaving a comment on "Tension", much appreciated. I'm glad you like it and I'm happy that you find it calming despite of the image title.
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.ekowalska
11/19/05 4:28 PM GMT
Hello John,

Thank you for your visit to turning yellow. I am glad you liked it. It is good to know that we have something in common: photography and yellow foliage, lol. I am obssessed with fall season shots you know. Stay tuned.

Ewa
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Here is my gallery "In all things of nature there is something of the marvelous" Aristotle
.MoeAction
11/29/05 1:06 PM GMT
Hey John, Thanks for your comments on "Space Warp". I'm glad you liked it.
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.userone
11/30/05 8:26 PM GMT
Hey John, Thanks a lot for the comment on "Reticular" - it's greatly appreciated...
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-userone- (Gallery)
.LANJOCKEY
12/13/05 6:45 PM GMT
Hello John.....Thankyou for your kind comments on (GLENSHEE) and for the high marks...This part of Scotland is so beautiful, mabey thats why so many artists capture it on canvas and for the photographer its paradise....Have a nice Xmas.....All the best ...Mick.
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::BernieSpeed
12/19/05 5:14 PM GMT
Hey John,

glad you liked my picture "Red'nRusty" and I thank you for leaving a comment. You are right, I have taken some more shots but they were not as good as this one. But maybe I will post one more of them. If I decide to do so, I will let you know.

Have a great time....

Bernd
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.mesmerized
01/05/06 8:17 PM GMT
Hello John...thanks so much for dropping by with your interesting comments on Harrison Park...glad it appealed and sparked some good old memories for you...I am delighted to hear you are familiar with Owen Sound...I was born up there but have lived here in Toronto most of my years...spent lots of time as a kid at Harrison Park and Sauble Beach...I have been to Inglis Falls but no pics at present...thanks again...always good to hear from someone aquainted with an area.:Pat.
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The new year is full of time. As the seconds tick away, will you be tossing time out the window, or will you make every minute count?
.mesmerized
01/05/06 8:27 PM GMT
John...thanks also for your comments on Field of Snow...glad you liked it...I agree about it being hard to get a good snow drift shot, especially these days around Toronto with no snow...this shot was taken outside of T.O. on No. 10 highway on the way up towards Owen Sound...open fields and snowbelt area once you start heading up near Shelburne.:Pat.
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The new year is full of time. As the seconds tick away, will you be tossing time out the window, or will you make every minute count?
.mythica
01/21/06 7:45 AM GMT
Hey there....You know who NEEDS high marks.....WE have texture...without which these other 'high ranking' images would be nothing!!! Now... I need to revisit KEIFER'S post Re: If You (BLANK) You Might Be a Caedesian.' You should read it if you haven't already...VERY funny!!! Cheers...Textuarian!!!
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The Universe conspires to help those who help themselves. This weeks gallery image.
.mselby6714
01/30/06 2:37 PM GMT
Thanks so much John for your comments on Summer Harvest. I appreciate you taking the time and I'm thrilled you liked it!!
~Mindy
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.endless
02/03/06 7:31 PM GMT
Thank you so much John for stopping by 'unwerwater II', I'm glad you liked it. Interesting thoughts.
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.sunshiney1
02/03/06 7:31 PM GMT
Dear John, Thanks for stopping by and leaving your comments :) on the Jefferson Memorial...actually I purposefully took the shot with the trees in the way, initially I saw it and I really liked the view -- kinda artsy ;) hahahaha.....
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-Budding Photographer
.vamoura
02/08/06 12:31 AM GMT
Hi John, thanks you for the nice comment on Spiritism, I'm glad that you appreciated it ;-))
Vamoura
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::Hottrockin
02/10/06 2:47 PM GMT
Hi John!! Thanks for checkin' out the weather on Storm a Brewin' . We'd better batten down the hatches!!
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.bplovesme
02/12/06 2:29 AM GMT
yeah i'm sure that mango tasted good. it just looked a bit like a my great grandmother's arm or... something... lol
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.netactor
02/20/06 4:01 PM GMT
thank you for your coments on "Shadow Play" I appreciate them. The location actually is in the description. The Bookcliff mountains, in Grand Junction, Colorado.
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::BernieSpeed
03/01/06 8:51 PM GMT
Hello John,

thank you for leaving me numerous comments on my picture. I am glad you liked them enough to take some time and tell me your thoughts about them. Your kind words are really appreciated.

Bernd
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Find out about me and my work at "my gallery"...
.Saulius
03/11/06 8:44 AM GMT
Hi John, thank you very much for interest and comments on “Ornament”, truly appreciated. Have a pleasant day!
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Once life becomes a habit, we cease to learn.
.jrasband123
03/11/06 9:57 PM GMT
John

Thanks for your kind comments on my "Costal View." I appreaciate your support.

Jackie:D
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.supriya2002
03/12/06 6:00 PM GMT
Hey John! thanks for your comment on In bloom....i could understand why you don't like fractals...its probably because not much effort was put into creating them... what i did was go back with the fractal and play around with it in photoshop to create the depth...Thanks for your sweet comment...
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---- If the world didn't suck, we would all fall off..
.poppycorn146
03/14/06 4:17 PM GMT
thanks john for you comment on Surfer Boys. I just got a new program so i was able to make the image larger.
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If you lived to be one hundred, I'd want to live to be one hundred minus one day, so I would never have to live without you. - Winnie-the-Pooh.
.scionlord
03/14/06 6:32 PM GMT
Thanks for the comment on Test Ground - Generator Idle. There is no view of the sky in the image.....
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'Study the past, if you would divine the future.' - Confucius
.Nekopuff
03/18/06 7:57 PM GMT
Hello John and thank you for your comment on "Hello". I wasn't bored at all when I photographed my pink cellphone. That shot belongs to my "Pretty things" project. Have a nice day. Anca
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.sammorgan
03/24/06 11:20 PM GMT
Hi John - Thanks for your comment on Cliff slope - ive got a few similar posted up...
Great 'Ice fishing' post by the way!!

Thanks again - Sam.
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Your ever so clever but if your not clever you will never get into heaven again
.Lirstar
04/13/06 10:47 AM GMT
Hi John, thanks for stopping by and commenting on "A Walk on the Beach." I too, am usually not a fan of the black borders, but in this case, the dimensions of the picture were a bit too small, and I had to add them in order to upload the image at a proper size. I've been up to the island hundreds of times, and I've never even attempted fishing yet! I think that I will make this a challenge of mine this summer. It is one of my favourite places in Ontario to visit. Thanks again :)
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.537les
04/25/06 9:14 PM GMT
John, Thanks for your complimentary comment on "ritual of the dancing lights". I. too, like the way it came out but judging from its c-rating, we're evidently in the minority. Oh well. I just visited your gallery and added "Moon River" to my file of landscape screensavers. Judging from its c-rating, everyone liked that one. Les
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some pictures say a thousand words... others speak silently to the soul
.537les
05/13/06 6:39 PM GMT
Hello again John. This time I'm messaging to thank you for you comments on "stuck in the 70's. Glad you enjoyed it. This image has had far more comments than any other I've posted. Later that day, I took another shot of an aging hippie which I recently posted as "lunch with grandpa". I'm wondering if these guys are the real thing or street characters working for the town of Woodstock like Mickey Mouse in DisneyWorld. Either way, the pictures do seem to help recall memories for our baby boomer generation. Les
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some pictures say a thousand words... others speak silently to the soul
.lilkittees
05/16/06 10:25 PM GMT
Hi John, thanks for your nice comments on "Old Truck". They are much appreciated. I also enjoyed browsing your gallery. Nice work. :-)
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.tpgmc
05/23/06 7:24 PM GMT
Thanks for leaving a comment on "Rest Stop"
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::snapshooter87
06/13/06 12:01 AM GMT
Hi John.
Glad you liked the Poppies. Enjoyed your gallery very much. Probably because I tend to find picture potential in practically everything, as you do. Thanks for stopping by.
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::laurengary
06/26/06 10:30 AM GMT
Hi there John ! Thanks bunches for dropping by Dance Of The Seven Veils & commenting. I'm so glad you enjoyed it ! And it was created with a program called Apophysis. Download it & have a ball ! But I warn you, it can be addicting !
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I'm not myself today .......maybe I'm you !! ......CLICK TO SAVE LIVES ! .......MY GALLERY
::theshrew
11/09/06 11:35 AM GMT
Thanks very much John re your comments on my Not really a flower. I like this one myself for the colours and close up view! Thanks for your encouragement!
Kate
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If you want to find something - ask a photographer or camerman!
.tonykay
12/25/06 11:26 PM GMT
Thanks John for the comments... trying to post something new.. but nothing exciting lately..lol
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::HauntingMorgana
01/09/07 11:03 PM GMT
Hello John!

Thank you for commenting on

The Mouth Of Hell.

It's greatly appreciated.

It is dark and moody, but i'm glad that you liked it!

Michael.
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Haunting made me do it damnit.
.jesouris
01/11/07 7:49 PM GMT
hey, just to say that I've been to your gallery and I like it very much!
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"To The World You Might Be One Person; But To One Person You Might Be the World." My Gallery
.jesouris
01/11/07 7:49 PM GMT
John, thanks for stopping by at Somewhere Beyond The Sea and leaving that nice comment, I appreciate it!
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"To The World You Might Be One Person; But To One Person You Might Be the World." My Gallery
.cirquegoddess
02/14/07 1:18 AM GMT
Thanks John for commenting on "A closer look" :)
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::theshrew
03/12/07 10:33 AM GMT
Hi Kate ( from the island ),
Thanks for the positive feedback on "Kee Canoe".
Would the island be Newfoundland ?
Hello John,
No I'm across the water - in the Outer Hebrides of NW Scotland. I'm on what are called the Western Isles, my one is the Isle of Lewis. I'm about 30 miles from mainland Scotland.
I'm afraid we don't have beautiful canoes here - just glass-fibre ones. Kate
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We are like people looking for something they have in their hands all the time; we're looking in all directions except at the thing we want, which is probably why we haven't found it.(Plato, 380BC)
::theshrew
03/17/07 1:19 PM GMT
Hi there
Thank you for looking at my gallery. I'm glad you liked my wide, sweeping landscapes. I'm very fortunate to have some lovely places to go to! Thanks again, Kate
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Beware the man of one book." St. Thomas Aquinas Scholastic philosopher and theologian, 1225-1274
.Canuck_Photo_Guy
03/19/07 6:10 PM GMT
Thanks for the comment on The Most Important Thing..., it's greatly appreciated! Although, I know where you're coming from with your comment, I disagree.
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"To photograph is to hold one's breath, when all faculties converge to capture fleeting reality. It's at that precise moment that mastering an image becomes a great physical and intellectual joy." ~ Henri Cartier-Bresson
.vgamer360
04/06/07 10:04 PM GMT
Thank you, I'm glad you liked the pictures!
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I may be new a photography with only a 2 mega pixel camera but i know how to take a pic of a perfect sunset.
::snapdragonk
04/14/07 8:08 AM GMT
Hi John, I am so honoured to see you have taken a little trip through my gallery, thankyou so much for your kind words. Have a great day, Kelcey.
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.Canuck_Photo_Guy
04/16/07 1:21 PM GMT
Thanks for stopping by and commenting on On The Vine, it's greatly appreciated!
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"To photograph is to hold one's breath, when all faculties converge to capture fleeting reality. It's at that precise moment that mastering an image becomes a great physical and intellectual joy." ~ Henri Cartier-Bresson
.Iceman41
04/16/07 7:19 PM GMT
alright, will do. thanks for the comment, by the way
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Wii came, Wii saw, Wii conquered
.lilkittees
06/11/07 9:47 PM GMT
Hi John, I enjoyed viewing your gallery...great work. Yeah, New River Gorge is a really pretty place in our beautiful state. I hope to make it down that way sometime this summer.
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Linda
.artytoit
06/25/07 6:27 PM GMT
Hi john and thanks for the comment on 'X-1'. I'm liking your gallery too, you've got some unusual subject matter in there that makes a refreshing change from flowers! lol.
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Arty to IT's Gallery Prints now available at Deviantart under artytoit
.boremachine
06/27/07 7:06 PM GMT
Hi John!
Thanks for your very nice words on North Tower!
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If you have some minutes why don't you come visiting my gallery ?
.chukar22
07/14/07 3:19 PM GMT
Hi John. Thanks for your kind comment on Mt. Si in Winter. Much appreciated.
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.aitmn10
07/25/07 12:01 AM GMT
Thank you so much John for your comment on Celebration 2! i really appreciate it! ~abby
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i apologize for my delay in replying to all of your wonderful comments...i am busy working a couple of jobs and enjoying the last summer with my friends
tramdolqqq
11/13/09 4:34 AM GMT
Hi boys and girls)
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