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The mods performed on this pic were kindly done by PJ to show me how the orig could be improved... having seen his work, I do agree with his comments on the orig and am going to try to replicate his work on my original... It is great to be able to learn how to properly mod pics with the help of those who know how... thank-you PJ... and Caedes for providing an arena for us to get together! Orig->'Nature's Framing' ...I would guess that the shadow on the 'floor' would be about 10 ft. or so from front to back. I know that I had no trouble at all in walking erect through this area! After a few pointers from PJ I have been able to mod my orig. I will not post it as this one is at least as good! :o)