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Bokeh?

::stuffnstuff
08/08/05 6:59 PM GMT
Sounds like something an elderly Canadian woodsman might say when he didn't hear something properly, but there has got to be more to it.

I have gotten a rough idea of what it is and why it matters from reading things pros said to other pros, but nobody was explaining it for the rest of us. Lets start from a clean slate.
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+mayne
08/08/05 9:54 PM GMT
Look here for an explanation.
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::philcUK
08/09/05 10:52 AM GMT
Im not sure I'm any the wiser on that one...
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::stuffnstuff
08/09/05 3:57 PM GMT
Thanks, that helped a lot. Should I be considering bokeh when purchasing a lens? Is it really something that the manufacterer can control?
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::philcUK
08/09/05 4:35 PM GMT
I'd doubt it's something they'd advertise to be honest...
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::stuffnstuff
08/09/05 5:24 PM GMT
I wouldn't think so, yet the doesn't mean that it isn't something to watch for. I read an indepth comparison between Canon's 50mm f/1.8 and their 50mm f/1.4, and it included things about bokeh. The only trouble is that it seems to be mostly personal opinion.
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+mayne
08/09/05 6:31 PM GMT
No, they never advertise the quality of their different lenses. You have to go to different sites to find the user feedback for a particular lens. I wouldn't worry too much about bokeh...sharpness, contrast and color would be more important.
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southwade
09/26/05 2:44 AM GMT
Read these:

http://www.photo.net/mjohnston/column49/

http://www.photo.net/equipment/canon/ef50/
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d_spin_9
09/26/05 4:22 AM GMT
i think they're refering to the quality of the bokeh if its subjective.

the amount of bokeh is what people really notice and that is a simple function of the apperature size/focal distance where aperature size is found by the lens length/f-stop. given that, a 200mm f/2.8 focused at the same distance as a 50mm f/4 lens would give the background around 8 times the blurriness.

the shape of the blurs created by a focused point in the background is determined by the shape of the aperature. on good quality lenses this will be circular at max aperature, but once it is stoped down it becomes a polygon with as many sides as your aperature has blades, hence a good quality lens with 9 blades will give smoother bokeh than a cheaper lens with only 5 blades.
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.mapbc
08/06/08 8:18 PM GMT
Question re: Bokeh

I've noticed my bokeh shots are much less favored by the voters. Maybe there should be a separate photo group for these narrow DOF shots.

I wondered if anyone else had found this to be true? There seems to be a lack of understanding with comments like "too bad the background is out of focus"

Just venting.
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::Pixleslie
08/19/08 11:06 PM GMT
"I wondered if anyone else had found this to be true?"

Oh, yes. Definitely.
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+regmar
08/25/08 4:19 AM GMT
No argument here, but the shots I have in which the bokeh is really extreme like this one here got some of the best reviews of all my work. I'm probably wrong about this, but a merely blurry background isn't all I go for when creating a good bokeh. I try to find a background that will blur out correctly for the image I'm shooting. If all I'm after is to isolate my foreground, then a blurry monotone background is perfect, but for art shots I want a busy background that will blur out well and give those neat patterns in the blur-out.
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=ppigeon
08/25/08 11:03 AM GMT
Bokeh is also really interesting for portraits.
Link
It focuses the light on the main subject.
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::Skynet5
08/26/08 4:43 AM GMT
If you want Canon equipment reviews that talk about the Bokeh a lens gives, and gives examples: www.the-digital-picture.com
very good reviews there
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