Hi there, thanks for the welcome. I never realised this page was here...this website is really well designed, as a web developer (not a good one, but hey, i can use front page...) i can appreciate the effort that went into this. My current attempts at CSS isn't going well, and i'm considerring resorting to I-frames...not really what i want to do. But this website has given me some inspiration...i'm beginning to see that there is a new way i can do things...thanks to whoever designed this site.