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No AC Vote jobs

::LynEve
03/14/12 11:05 AM GMT
Approx 2 weeks ago I stopped getting images to vote on.
I believe others are experiencing the same.

My last 2 nominations gave me an Internal Server Error message, although the nominations appeared to be accepted.

Just wondering if there is a database error glitch - there have been no new Main Gallery Promotions for two weeks either.
LE
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My thanks to all who leave comments for my work and to those of you who like one enough to make it a favourite. To touch just one person that way makes each image worthwhile. . . . . . . . . .. . . . "The question is not what you look at, but what you see" ~ Marcel Proust

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::Jimbobedsel
03/14/12 2:23 PM GMT
I noticed the same thing. Are AC members just not nominating?
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::biffobear
03/14/12 3:02 PM GMT
Yes I've had no notifications for a while.....R.
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::casechaser
03/14/12 3:50 PM GMT
A few days ago I nominated a picture. However, when I submitted it, I got a message that I am not, I wish I had written it down, authorized to nominate pictures. That is not the exact wording, but it is the meaning. The picture I wanted to nominate did appear to be nominated.

I have not had pictures to vote on for week or so.
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+Piner
03/14/12 4:19 PM GMT
I am checking into it. I will post here as soon as I find out what has happened.
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The work of art may have a moral effect, but to demand moral purpose from an artist is to make him ruin his work. (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - 1832)
::egggray
03/14/12 8:18 PM GMT
Same here, no AC images.
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::trixxie17
03/14/12 10:45 PM GMT
I agree - have had nothing for several weeks.
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.icedancer
03/14/12 11:43 PM GMT
I've noticed the same thing. Looking forward to finding out, Piner, Tom
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::coram9
03/15/12 6:40 AM GMT
I too am no longer eligible to nominate images, and the nomination button no longer appears on images I view.
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"There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs." Ansel Adams - Gallery - follow me on Twitter.
.J_272004
03/15/12 6:50 AM GMT
I checked and I can still nominate.. I had a couple of images to vote on last week
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::LynEve
03/15/12 7:32 AM GMT
My understanding is that if nominations are not available it means you have filled your quota - 2 per week. After that the nominate buttons disappear from all images.
I seem to recall that if a nomination is successfully promoted then an extra allocation is given but I can not find that mentioned anywhere now.
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My thanks to all who leave comments for my work and to those of you who like one enough to make it a favourite. To touch just one person that way makes each image worthwhile. . . . . . . . . .. . . . "The question is not what you look at, but what you see" ~ Marcel Proust
.Akeraios
03/15/12 6:43 PM GMT
I nominated something last night, and I did get an error message, but now the AC button isn't showing on that image but it is on others. Not much point though if no one can vote on them!
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"In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said, "Let there be light". And there was still nothing but you could see it." -- Groucho Marx
+purmusic
03/15/12 10:00 PM GMT
"I seem to recall that if a nomination is successfully promoted then an extra allocation is given but I can not find that mentioned anywhere now."

Something like that..

Believe the statement you are looking for Lyn.. might be on the confirmation page after that of nominating an image.

Which, is not visible as of this writing here as those above have reported after having nominated an image and then, having received the 'Internal Server Error' message. (I just tried myself.. same thing.)


From another discussion;

"The limit of two therefore is somewhat arbitrary to me."

'Not necessarily true, Cornelius.

As you may find out, in light of the 'successes' of your nominations and votes cast/promoted images.'


In short..

More successes in nominations and subsequent promotions will lead to being able to nominate more images.


"Not much point though if no one can vote on them!"

Somethings afoot, be patient.
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::luckyshot
03/17/12 7:14 PM GMT
As with others, I am having the same issue - an error message when selecting an AC nomination and not receiving any nominations for my vote. Thad
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If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine The Earth without art is just 'eh'.
.cynlee
03/17/12 10:10 PM GMT
Ditto.
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::LynEve
03/18/12 1:22 PM GMT
In the interim would it be possible for those who have the authority, to independently promote some of the new images, chosen either from nominations or own choice?
The Main Galleries would benefit from some new works. There must be around 1000 new uploads to select from since the voting system stopped..

also . . .

There will be a large number of nominations accumulated since 29/02.
IF there is to be a return to the way things were, large lists of images requiring voting on can be a bit daunting and could well lead to members rushing through evaluations or maybe just not bothering.
Depending on the degreee of care taken in voting it can be very time consuming.

LE
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My thanks to all who leave comments for my work and to those of you who like one enough to make it a favourite. To touch just one person that way makes each image worthwhile. . . . . . . . . .. . . . "The question is not what you look at, but what you see" ~ Marcel Proust
+Piner
03/18/12 5:26 PM GMT
We never stopped promoting new images.
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The work of art may have a moral effect, but to demand moral purpose from an artist is to make him ruin his work. (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - 1832)
::LynEve
03/18/12 10:58 PM GMT
Until yesterday (before I posted above)there appeared to be just one promoted since the AC ceased working.
Pre-AC there were more being promoted regularly by Mods. Is this an indication that the overall quality of images has decreased significantly since then?

I would have thought perhaps the likes of these two among others may have caught the eye of the promoters

http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Caedes::Infopage&image=GGFF-1330387743.jpg

http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Caedes::Infopage&image=egggray-1330818011.jpg
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My thanks to all who leave comments for my work and to those of you who like one enough to make it a favourite. To touch just one person that way makes each image worthwhile. . . . . . . . . .. . . . "The question is not what you look at, but what you see" ~ Marcel Proust
+Piner
03/19/12 8:07 AM GMT
We go through the new images once every two to three weeks, depending on our personal schedules.
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The work of art may have a moral effect, but to demand moral purpose from an artist is to make him ruin his work. (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - 1832)
::SEFA
03/25/12 4:36 PM GMT
I tried to nominate an image today and got an internal server error message. I to am wondering if there is something wrong.
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::cynlee
03/29/12 11:47 PM GMT
Is the AC now defunct? I saw no announcements regarding that, yet it doesn't appear to be working at all at this time. Can anyone elaborate further or are we all in the dark?
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.zunazet
03/30/12 3:34 AM GMT
We are all in the dark, but I heard Piner was checking into it and would let us know when he found out :)
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::cynlee
03/30/12 12:57 AM GMT
Well, my guess is that Caedes is aware of it since he was on site on the 27th. Either it is not fixable or they are contemplating a change to it or possibly a reversion. And, as I said, that is pure conjecture on my part.
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+animaniactoo
03/30/12 8:58 PM GMT
I'm in the dark too and I just bumped my shin. Owie.
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Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult...
::cynlee
04/03/12 11:52 PM GMT
What's the point of having an AC if all the images that go into the perms are now only the ones picked by the mods and it would even seem like one mod only is making the choices. Is this system fail; Captain missing in action?
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+animaniactoo
04/06/12 4:09 PM GMT
If you think there's an image which deserves to be promoted and has been missed, please send a PM to a mod with your recommendation.

The mods are volunteers, have jobs and other life commitments, and do the best we can. We're always open to checking out stuff that may have been missed, whether it's a violation or a great image for promotion.

Have no answers about the AC at this time, but we are making sure that images do continue to be promoted to the main galleries.
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Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult...
::LynEve
04/08/12 12:37 AM GMT
When the AC first became defunct I kept a note of the images I would like to nominate, for when it functioned again.
Some of them have got promotion, very many have not. Some on my list would have been biased by personal preference but others stand out as exceptional and I am surprised they have not made the grade. I have given up keeping the list.
We are all volunteers on this site - mods and members alike and I think it is a bit sad that some fine images that have obviously been created with a lot of thought and effort by members who also have lives outside of caedes (but they create the images anyway because they love to do so) are being overlooked.

Thank you Cat for inviting us to pm a mod with recommendations - I believe many would not have been aware that this is acceptable.
Only once have I ever done so in the past and it was made clear that it was not 'my place' to do so. Of course that was in the days of the VB which was an aid to mods in their selections. There are far fewer images uploaded daily now which should make selections less time consuming, and possible for every image to be viewed for consideration.

Perhaps if the "PM A Mod" invite were to appear in front page news more members may see it and respond.
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My thanks to all who leave comments for my work and to those of you who like one enough to make it a favourite. To touch just one person that way makes each image worthwhile. . . . . . . . . .. . . . "The question is not what you look at, but what you see" ~ Marcel Proust
::cynlee
04/08/12 3:21 PM GMT
Front page news has to be approved by Caedes unless it is 'scripted', Lyn, so I don't think that's going to happen. It was suggested that we have a front page news announcement about a member's passing and that was never approved even though we were told it would be put before Caedes and I see no reason why he would not have approved such a thing. I think that Geri is just too distant or too busy for the site and things are more or less running on their own. We are in the dark, the mods (most of them ) admit they are in the dark, so we just have to wait for Geri to throw the power switch back on.
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+purmusic
04/08/12 4:49 PM GMT
And in the interim, might I suggest visiting and leaving some comments on the "Lonely Images"?
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::LynEve
04/11/12 2:52 PM GMT
Can anyone tell us if it is of any use us nominating images at this time?
Although the internal server error appears it does seem the nominations are registering as the nominate button disappears.
Are they are just disappearing into cyberspace or is it likely they will they be used at some stage?
If they are visible to the selectors they would be of more use than pm recommendations from members.
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My thanks to all who leave comments for my work and to those of you who like one enough to make it a favourite. To touch just one person that way makes each image worthwhile. . . . . . . . . .. . . . "The question is not what you look at, but what you see" ~ Marcel Proust
+animaniactoo
04/11/12 5:21 PM GMT
Lyn, I would assume they are useless at this point as nominations do "expire". By the time that anything happens, there's a good shot that any nominations you've made will have expired.
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Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult...
::cynlee
04/12/12 3:07 PM GMT
That means any image that we nominate now will never be able to be nominated on again in the future.
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+purmusic
04/12/12 7:05 PM GMT
+Piner - 14/03/12 12:19

"I am checking into it. I will post here as soon as I find out what has happened."

Anything else.. is speculation, conjecture.


Me?

Although I do understand Cat's point.. would be to, again and as mentioned above ... carry on and keep nominating images.

No 'one' said not to, have they? Even in light of the what transpires now (error message received after the fact).. the nomination button is 'removed'.

Or..

Wish to keep a list of images that caught your eye? Images that you would nominate? Unsure if they will be still nominated?

Simply create a folder in your favourites and add the links to the images.
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nmrea
04/12/12 11:01 PM GMT
Wrong thread. :(
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::cynlee
04/15/12 12:08 AM GMT
This inability to nominate images to the AC has gone on for weeks. It is now over a month since Piner said he would find an answer.

When we compile a list of images we want to nominate, it will take forever to nominate them at two a week should the nominating become operational. In the meantime, we could be adding even more images to our list.
This makes little sense. Where is Geri? Does he even know about this?
Of course, everything is conjecture. What else would/could it be?
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+purmusic
04/15/12 2:45 AM GMT
"This inability to nominate images to the AC has gone on for weeks."

Don't think so.. 'you' (speaking generally here) can still nominate images.

"Even in light of the what transpires now (error message received after the fact).. the nomination button is 'removed'."


"When we compile a list of images we want to nominate, it will take forever to nominate them at two a week should the nominating become operational."

No.

It was never the case that solely one member was ever nominating images when the system was fully operational.

In fact..

Noted many a time in comments on image's pages how some members were seeking to nominate an image, or, were going to nominate an image.. only to see that someone else had already nominated it (the nomination button was 'removed').

So..

If an image is that exceptional and worthy of promotion to the Main Galleries, I would imagine said image would appear on a number of member's list. (Should they decide to keep one, that is.)


"Where is Geri? Does he even know about this?"

::cynlee - 30/03/12 8:57

"Well, my guess is that Caedes is aware of it since he was on site on the 27th."


And then, and once again..

+Piner - 14/03/12 12:19

"I am checking into it. I will post here as soon as I find out what has happened."
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::cynlee
04/15/12 2:08 PM GMT
No need to reiterate. I know what has gone before.

Again, I 'suggested' that Geri was aware since he was here on 3/27, not that I knew that for sure. That's what it means to 'guess'. I could be wrong about that guess. Perhaps he is not aware based on the fact that Piner has not returned with an explanation.

That nominating an image causes the nominate button to disappear and deliver an error message is no indication that those same images are being accepted and stored somewhere. At least I have not heard that stated as fact unless I missed that statement somewhere previously in this thread.

So now the conjecture is that if an image is 'worthy', it will be nominated because more than one person will have it on their list. This is ALL conjecture. What isn't conjecture is the where abouts of Geri. That is most definitely a known that only you (or he) could respond to with an honest answer.
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::Akeraios
04/15/12 5:31 PM GMT
The record of nominations must be somewhere in the database for the button to disappear on those images.
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+purmusic
04/15/12 7:53 PM GMT
/\ Bingo.
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::LynEve
04/16/12 11:49 AM GMT
"The record of nominations must be somewhere in the database for the button to disappear on those images."

Maybe, but +animaniactoo indicated they expire after certain (unknown) time and her advice was nominations at this point are useless.
If they are in the database somewhere are they not available to image mods ?

Nominated images have their nominate button removed for ever, successful or unsuccessful. If recent nominations are expiring without being voted on they can never be re-nominated, as pointed out by cynlee.
It would seem nominating now could well be causing those images to be prevented from ever being nominated in the future, unless they are being kept in an 'unexpired' state for voting on when/if the voting system ever gets reinstated.

Les . . "No 'one' said not to, have they?"
No, but neither has anyone said with any certainty "keep on nominating, they are being saved for future voting, OR we mods are making use of them in our choices"
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My thanks to all who leave comments for my work and to those of you who like one enough to make it a favourite. To touch just one person that way makes each image worthwhile. . . . . . . . . .. . . . "The question is not what you look at, but what you see" ~ Marcel Proust
::cynlee
04/16/12 2:24 PM GMT
"The record of nominations must be somewhere in the database for the button to disappear on those images"...

Another conjecture. The whole point is that someone knows what is going on. That someone is Caedes. Is there a disconnect between those who run the site and the one who owns and operates it? If Geri would come forward and explain, then there would be no more conjecture. We would have the truth.
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::trixxie17
04/16/12 9:42 PM GMT
Perhaps a thread should be started for members to post the titles and links to the images they think should be nominated. The thread would then contain a record of those worthy images and, even if the thread becomes inactive, it could always be found in the "Elephant Graveyard".






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+purmusic
04/16/12 9:57 PM GMT
While a good idea, Kathy ... the shortcoming to keeping a public list is the potential for some bad feelings/embarrassment.. whichever and whatever ... to emerge. Should a listed image not be promoted in the end and after all is said and done.

The Art Council while fully operational didn't quite operate that way. Artists/members were not apprised if their images had been nominated.
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.mesmerized
04/22/12 9:03 PM GMT
I have nominate buttons on all the images but when I clicked on one I got this message:

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@caedes.net and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

So, whoever needs or wants to know that...there you go...will just have to wait and see what happens, I guess.
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