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The Caedes Deck (formerly know as Bristol Pack)

+grimbug
10/21/05 12:01 AM GMT
As some of you might remember i was taking part in a local art project, to make a unique deck of cards! Each card representative of an individual artist working in Bristol, the damp town i call home! The Pack is now available to view and purchase from 'The Pack's' website .... The Bristol Pack. And as a result of this dicussion we are now attempting to create a 'Caedes Deck' of playing cards! A wonderful opportunity to highlight the amazing diversity of artists in our cummunity!

Here's the The Caedes Deck Gallery.

And here is the current list of artists and thier cards! Card List.

WANT TO TAKE PART?

If You would like to take part please join the discussion or send me a PM if you would like to be dealt a card!

Your card design can be approached in one of two ways... you may design your own version of the standard playing card form with just some of your own added artistic flare, or you can make an attempt to interpret the card with out using standard card images or formats! As long as the cards value and suit are 'reasonably' easy to interpret!

Specifically the card has to be designed to fit, when printed, on a standard playing card. This is a 63x88mm card so keep your image in scale with this, the widtt to height ratio would be 1 : 1.3968.

Most importantly have fun and bring something unique and personal to the mix!

Enjoy!
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::djrangman
11/29/05 11:49 PM GMT
I would be up for doing another- if that is they way we want to go... don't want to be the only one doing 2 though... *crosses fingers for a funky card*
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::kjh000
11/29/05 11:54 PM GMT
I could try another one too but I'm not sure it will go as smooth as the last one (if you can say it did that...)
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::kodo34
11/30/05 3:30 PM GMT
I'm always in the mood for another.
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have a nice day and read more fantasy.
=Piner
11/30/05 7:36 PM GMT
Maybe we should wait before assigning a second card to a member... I don't see any reason to rush it, right now the calendars are the caedes items to buy for this Winter (or Summer for you all South of the equator). The cards would be good to put up to sell at the end of Winter (here in the Northern Hemisphere). People will then soon to be taking spring-break trips, where playing cards are always standard gear to bring along. ( If you get lost or stranded on a deserted isle, start playing a hand of solitaire and within 5 minutes someone will look over your shoulder and tell you where to place a card, guaranteed. )
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+grimbug
11/30/05 7:51 PM GMT
haha! well i was just thinking out loud! as i said i have notime limits.. and i want to try and fill the list! doubling up will come as a last resort if a deadline is approaching!
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::djrangman
11/30/05 9:03 PM GMT
sounds cool- but that seems like a long time to wait...
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=Piner
12/01/05 12:24 AM GMT
All good things come to those who wait...
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::djrangman
12/01/05 12:38 AM GMT
sounds very proverbial. :) I'm afraid I'll start poking people who haven't gotten in on this yet.. just so i can get my card deck! lol.
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=Piner
12/02/05 2:29 AM GMT
What would be helpful is some Adobe Illustrator files of the four suits or some 1600x1200 JPEG files of the same, such as this, this or this.
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::CaptainHero
12/02/05 1:14 PM GMT
That's useful, though standard shapes in most applications will usually include the four suits.

In terms of functionality, I think this exercise is a bit of fun: due to the wide variety of designs, I don't think the pack will necessarily be easy to play cards with. I need to take some time to work on my design, it keeps getting put to one side.
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." Bertrand Russell
+grimbug
12/02/05 1:56 PM GMT
yes the functionality of the deck comes second place to celebrating the variety of images! the same was true of the bristol pack! You can play a game of cards if you like, but it tends to make every hand a challenge to decipher!
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::djrangman
12/02/05 8:56 PM GMT
you can always put a (small) label on the cards to make them easier to decipher. :)
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::kjh000
12/02/05 9:16 PM GMT
Hm... Rather not, that would intrude considerably on the artistic expression of the individual artist. But I do see the point you make, perhaps include a small index with artist, card and small thumbnails to go with it in the pack.
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::djrangman
12/03/05 4:18 AM GMT
if the card isn't clear- then what is the point of the deck of cards? I'm assuming that most people would want to use them- not frame them on the wall. If its an intrusion on the artist- then maybe they should make it clearer, or create their own emblem.
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::kjh000
12/03/05 8:46 AM GMT
Yes, I've noticed you think so. If you want cards that look like other cards, then you could buy other cards maybe?
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+grimbug
12/03/05 9:40 AM GMT
well my guidlines for the card designs stand, as long as its relatively easy to decipher the cards its fine! they dont have to instantly recognisable!
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::djrangman
12/03/05 10:20 AM GMT
yeah, kjh00, i'm sure that's what i want... cards that look exactly like other cards. because i'm sure that's what putting a small label on them would do- and it would spoil your art. lol. up to grim i guess. good luck selling em- seems like playing cards are meant to play with. and if they look sweet- thats a bonus. but if you can't make out what it is- then its not a good job of artwork on the card, and it makes the deck pointless. you want something to hang on your wall- buy a calendar.
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+grimbug
12/03/05 12:18 AM GMT
Just make it 'relatively easy' problem solved , quit your bickering!
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::CaptainHero
12/03/05 2:38 PM GMT
I think if we have the standard symbols/characters on the corners, then at least we can see what the card is - a compromise between artistic license and functionality.

Having said that, from the very beginning I always though of this as an artistic exercise - it never occurred to me that anyone would seriously play with them. Even if the cards are relatively easy to interpret, they will still all look different.
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+grimbug
12/03/05 3:14 PM GMT
Well i also consider it an artistic venture! But with an aim to at least make the cards identifiable through intrepretation at the least ,regardless of whether conventional card layouts or stereotypical suit imagery is used or not! It would be nice to play with the deck,but i dont want functionality to be the prime focus! I also want to encourage the levels of artistic freedom and variation we have on the site, and that it should be reflected in the cards!
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::djrangman
12/03/05 3:25 PM GMT
cool- i guess its just difficult to draw a line in my head for 'relatively easy.' Maybe Kjh000's suggestion of a key would be good then? :)
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+grimbug
12/03/05 3:35 PM GMT
im sure it would be very possible to add a few extra cards to the deck! with some effort we could create some thumbnail identification cards, if there really are some cards in the final deck that are hard to identify! But then im sure as the designs come in we can all encourage each other with suggestions on how to make our cards clear without treading on any ones artistic sensibilities!
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=Piner
12/03/05 3:43 PM GMT
As long as there is plenty of contrast between the background in the two corners and the card marks there really shouldn't be a problem identifying them. (A tip for working with fonts and busy backgrounds is to outline the characters with a thin contrasting line (for example: white letters with a black outline.)
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+grimbug
12/03/05 3:58 PM GMT
well i for one have no intention of including any corner markers to my 3 of Skulls (HAHA) but then that sort of design really doesnt need them! And if your image is recognisable for what it is by some other means, then i dont see the need for every card having to feature them!
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.Otaku
12/04/05 10:30 PM GMT
A card for an old drifter, dear grim? (if you have any left, that is)
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Otaku's back?
::CaptainHero
12/06/05 9:28 PM GMT
Goodness, Otaku. I though you'd gone to Caedes Heaven. Where have you sprung from?
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." Bertrand Russell
.Marideath
12/06/05 11:06 PM GMT
Hehehe, Matthew -- delurking is reaching epidemic proportions!!! :D
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+grimbug
12/07/05 11:48 AM GMT
Old Skool Caedes! Otaku i'd be glad to deal you in, ive hit you with the 2 of spades! get cracking and its great to see your back in the mix!
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::monkeypuzzle
12/13/05 7:31 PM GMT
the cards gallery has shrunk a wee bit...i guess the respective artists have deleted their starting images. wow...old skool caedes indeed. :~) i reckon this idea needs a bit more attention so that folks can get cards assigned & work on them over some time, give the cheese some time to mature. how many cards/designs are left Grimster? maybe some encouragement in the spreading of the word....?
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::kjh000
12/13/05 8:12 PM GMT
lol! Old school... Hehe... Could be, I'm not aware of cards being pulled as of yet though. Some cards have been moved to the "permanent" gallery though. I definitely agree that this project needs some extra ants in the pants though.
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.ArcieMay
12/15/05 4:11 PM GMT
can i play? i would love to try my hand at designing a card!
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+grimbug
12/19/05 6:24 PM GMT
Of course you can Marcie i gave the deck a good suffle and dealt you the Ten of diamonds' and while i was dealling i hit Bob (reddawg151) with the 9 of spades. Good luck to both of you with your designs!
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+grimbug
12/19/05 6:28 PM GMT
Oh i nearly forgot! that means there are only 25 cards left to be dealt out! Over half way now!
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::monkeypuzzle
12/19/05 6:42 PM GMT
so when i boils down & if there arent enough artists to take cards(i hope not, i'd liek to see a different work on each card) i be up for taking another. but til the i will be working on my king of diamonds :~)
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=xentrik
12/20/05 4:02 AM GMT
As long as there's no set due-date, I'd love to have a card, Grim. Inspiration might strike, eventually... :-p
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.kazadoodle
12/21/05 7:24 AM GMT
Love the sound of this project - I love cards and am in the process of working on a digital tarot deck - give the old deck a shuffle for me Grim, and let me know what I got, okay? Thanks! (I'm really hoping I get the card I want as I've already got ideas for it - LOL) I used to make ATC's - can't see this as being any different
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"The job of the artist is to deepen the mystery." – Francis Bacon
+grimbug
12/22/05 4:39 PM GMT
Ok before i vanish for the holidays i better shuffle and deal the cards out one more time! Xentrik will be designing the '9 of Hearts' good luck with that, no time limits yet! Also for Kazadoodle the 'Queen of spades', have fun with it! It might not be the card you wanted, but the random factor is at work!
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.kazadoodle
12/26/05 1:23 AM GMT
Wahoo - I was dealt a Queen card, which is good enough. I've uploaded an image already and would post the url here, but it's still in the process of being approved as I write - LOL
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::monkeypuzzle
01/03/06 5:36 PM GMT
Hey I was wondering why there are 2 folks working on the ten of hearts?
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Beware the anti-cinnamon stare!!! Happy new Year to you! hope u had a good'un and make it another good'un next!
=Piner
01/03/06 6:39 PM GMT
I have taken care of it. Arciemay was dealt the '10 of diamonds', but for some reason they created a "10 of hearts" instead.
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::monkeypuzzle
01/03/06 7:32 PM GMT
cool i like ur new avatar :~)
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Beware the anti-cinnamon stare!!! Happy new Year to you! hope u had a good'un and make it another good'un next!
.mythica
01/03/06 9:03 PM GMT
I sent a PM - Must have got lost in the mail!!! Would love to create a card for the deck!!!
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::CurtieBear
01/17/06 9:54 AM GMT
Grim must be on vacation? I sent a PM also... :o)
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.pixelpusher
02/09/06 2:43 PM GMT
Any cards left in the deck? I sent a PM a couple of days ago but no reply. would like to give it a shot.
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Art washes away from the soul the dust of life....Picasso
::CurtieBear
02/10/06 6:53 AM GMT
AYe, there are some left. I think Grim is on Haitus.
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"Can't Sleep, Clowns will eat me... Can't sleep, Clowns will eat me..."
+grimbug
02/11/06 5:28 PM GMT
i'll be catching up and getting back into the swing of things during the week! so dont think you post are falling on deaf ears.. or blind eyes! Expect to hear from me on Monday!
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.Marideath
02/11/06 8:27 PM GMT
Hooray!!!!!!!!! The Grim is back. ;)
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.mythica
02/12/06 4:25 AM GMT
Can't wait .....For my card!!! ((HINT)) - NUDGE - WINK....;¬]
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::CurtieBear
02/13/06 7:35 AM GMT
Wheeeee!!!
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+grimbug
02/13/06 7:41 AM GMT
Ahh it must be monday!
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+Samatar
02/13/06 7:58 AM GMT
Either that, or a full moon... :-P
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=Piner
02/13/06 8:13 AM GMT
* HOWLS *
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.mythica
02/13/06 10:20 AM GMT
Question...Where are all the images in the Card Gallery gone??? :-/
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The Universe conspires to help those who help themselves. My gallery.
=Piner
02/13/06 11:28 AM GMT
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+grimbug
02/14/06 7:29 PM GMT
ok lets see!... Mythica.. the gods of the deck dealt you out the 'Queen of Clubs'...pixelpusher your going to be working on the '6 of spades'.....CurtieBear ive hit you with the '4 of Diamonds'.. i'll be checking my PM's later to make sure im not missing anyone!
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+grimbug
02/14/06 7:43 PM GMT
hmm yep.. a few more to add! im so slack! bad bad bad grimbles! wonderful ive dealt you out the '8 of Hearts'.....rhinebeck you get the '2 of Hearts'....oksyl you have been dealt with the '10 of Spades'... and if your up for it, ive dealt you out the '7 of Clubs' DixieNormus!.. phew i think thats everyone now!
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.mythica
02/15/06 2:11 AM GMT
Yahoo! Yippee-eye-Yaaa! I'm off....Thank-you to the gods! Queen of Clubs - Here I come!! :¬D
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.monkeypuzzle
02/16/06 8:58 AM GMT
:~) oh .....41/54 designs.....coming along slowly, cant wait
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Regards . Avi . Beware the anti-cinnamon stare!!!
::xyccoc
02/23/06 2:04 AM GMT
*waits patiently for a card of his own*
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+grimbug
02/23/06 4:09 AM GMT
how slack of me! oh and i thought i did so well catching up! lucky the deck still has plenty of surprises to dish out! and you've bagged the 'King of clubs', sorry for the delay in your design frenzy!
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+grimbug
02/23/06 4:14 AM GMT
just 15 cards left people! then the real work will begin! now where did i put my bull whip?
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::xyccoc
02/23/06 10:17 AM GMT
np at all Graeme.. this should be interesting.. i hope to not disappoint..
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.animaniactoo
02/28/06 10:56 PM GMT
*knocks on the window*

please sir… may I have a card?
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+grimbug
03/01/06 1:24 AM GMT
Why of course you may.. shuffle shuffle shuffle! ooh my my cat.. youve got the 'Queen of Hearts' good luck with that!
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.animaniactoo
03/01/06 4:18 AM GMT
oh my, that's a hefty order, I'll try to live up to it! *goes off to start percolating*
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One man sees things and says "why?", but I dream things that never were and say "why not?"
::xyccoc
03/04/06 2:25 AM GMT
so should we do more than one rendition of the card?
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=Piner
03/04/06 2:33 AM GMT
DJ- That is totally up to you.
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+grimbug
03/04/06 12:36 AM GMT
yes please feel free to produce multiple versions of your cards! infact its better to do it! post one, get some feedback and start working on refining it or another design!
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::xyccoc
03/04/06 2:02 PM GMT
ok then.. *waits for more feedback on his card* ill see what else i can come up with..
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.ladyprariefire
03/05/06 11:39 PM GMT
If you want to be dealt a card is it a random shuffle or do you pick one yourself?
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::xyccoc
03/05/06 11:43 PM GMT
random shuffle from the remaining cards
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+grimbug
03/06/06 12:40 AM GMT
was that a subtle request to have the random fates deal you a card??
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.ladyprariefire
03/06/06 9:06 PM GMT
Not to sure yet, if you design a card when is the deadline for your images to be completed? And, if you come on board and for some reason can not complete your card, what do you then do? This would be a step out for me so I'm a little nervous. Thanx!!
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+grimbug
03/06/06 10:29 PM GMT
well as of right now there is no deadline attached to the project! filling all the spaces in the deck is step 1, so the sooner you get on board the longer you have till any deadlines will be even considered! I dont want to put pressure on anyone so relax and take your time, the only time concerns to worry about is how long me and a few other card junkies can wait to get a deck in our grubby little paws! if you come on board and for some reason you dont feel you can complete your card, its not like im making you sign anything in blood! Your always able to hand the card back in so someone else can give it ago..so dont worry, everyone at caedes understands that sometimes.. once in a blue moon, on a leap year, when the planets are in full conjunction, and theres not a vowel in the month, that real life sometimes gets in the way of things! I say go for it! You have everyone's support in any help you need with your card at any point in the process! i was this close to shuffeling the remaining deck and dealing you a card then, put me out of my misery let me cross another card off my list!
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.ladyprariefire
03/07/06 3:56 AM GMT
All right deal me!!
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+grimbug
03/07/06 4:41 AM GMT
pick a card any card,, now put it in the deck,,, now cut it.. and again.. shuffle.. was this your card??.. my goodness thats amazing the '4 of Hearts'... im sure you will come up with something m'lady! ...ladyprariefire that is!
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.ladyprariefire
03/09/06 10:17 PM GMT
Alright, I wanna see that card trick again, shuffle up the deck and lets see if you can do it twice. But this time I've already chosen my next card telepathically, no need to cut the deck. hmmm, is that your card you ask? Then I'll know if you can read my mind! Send me a random card............and I'll travial it even if you can't read my mind (lol). (though there is a particular card I'm looking for so I hope the deck has recieved my cosmic energy). Thanx..................................LPF
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+grimbug
03/09/06 11:29 PM GMT
Sorry to say, that in order to give as many artists a chance as possible, we are limiting it to one card per artist. Thats why I've been randomly dealing the cards out, in the interests of fairness. But please feel free to submit as many variations on your card as you like!
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+grimbug
03/14/06 9:05 PM GMT
IoVoAoVoI has now joined our swelling ranks! and will be after a quick shuffle, designing the 'Queen of Diamonds'! Happy to have you on board! and this means we only have 11 cards left to deal out! so we are officaly just over 3/4 of the way there!
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+grimbug
04/13/06 12:15 AM GMT
Ive been busy and slowed down with some personal projects, but hings are still ticking over on the caedes Deck.. welcoming to our ranks FrozenSolid who will be doing our '5 of Clubs' and Temper who will also be clubbing togther with us, designing the '9 of Clubs'! Glad to have you on the team!
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.hernoor
06/04/06 12:37 AM GMT
Sounds fun! Deal me in!
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+grimbug
06/15/06 11:45 AM GMT
SHUFFLE SHUFFLE....oooooh fresh victims... welcome to the deck......mmynx34 with the '3 of diamonds' and hernoor with the '8 of spades'... good luck with your designs guys!
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.Katz
07/12/06 7:50 PM GMT
Hello Grim...I recently uploaded a design for the back of a playing card..but in regular wallpaper dimensions. I received quite a bit of encouragement to enter into your little project. I'm a bit shy about such things..but my creative juices are flowing. I already made an Ace of Clubs and uploaded it. :( I hope this is alright. I didn't fully read up on the rules for this before I did it. I apologize for any problems. You can just send it back to the regular New Images if it's a problem. No worries. I sent you a PM on this as well in case I don't get back to read your reply. You can PM or e-mail me. Either is fine. Thanks so much and I'm real sorry for being a pain in the toosh. Sarah
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Hi I'm Sarah. My motto is if you like cats, you can't be ALL bad. :)
::MarianaEwa
07/17/06 1:34 PM GMT
Hi Grim, I would like to join too. I saw that 7 of spades was available. I have sent a PM to you grimbug, but you have not been here for some days.
I post it today and if someone else have the 7 of spades I will take my 7 of spades away. No problem.
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::BlitheOwl
07/22/06 3:10 AM GMT
This looks fun! If I can, I'd love to jump in!
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+Samatar
12/07/06 3:19 AM GMT
How close was this to being finished?
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.CurtieBear
01/15/07 10:21 AM GMT
Yeah... what Sam said above...

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+Samatar
01/15/07 12:17 AM GMT
I think this is a case of "Another one bites the dust". Although it certainly lasted much longer than most member initiated projects... shame really.
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.CurtieBear
01/15/07 12:39 AM GMT
I'll do another card if allowed. :o)
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.noahnott
01/15/07 7:07 PM GMT
I guess I could do one?
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.Canuck_Photo_Guy
01/29/07 4:23 PM GMT
Pm'd ya grimbug! I'm hopin' for a certain card, but with the shuffling who knows?!?!
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"To photograph is to hold one's breath, when all faculties converge to capture fleeting reality. It's at that precise moment that mastering an image becomes a great physical and intellectual joy." ~ Henri Cartier-Bresson
.djrangman
02/06/07 2:40 PM GMT
anyone know why the card i have doesn't show up in the Caedes--->Cards gallery even though it is listed to be there? link
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::CurtieBear
02/06/07 2:50 PM GMT
That's wierd... you be right, I just went through and didn't see it there.
*scratches head*
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::djrangman
02/06/07 2:54 PM GMT
Its definately not the greatest image- but I was gonna count and see how many cards were done- maybe there are others that aren't showing up either?
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.animaniactoo
02/07/07 1:13 AM GMT
I'm still working on my card. I swear! I just got um… stalled… and sidetracked…

But I have all the outlines done!
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+Samatar
02/07/07 4:23 AM GMT
djrangman - the reason your card is not showing up is that it has been archived, along with a few others. I'll ask caedes to restore them. I also discovered there are a few old contest entries that have been archived which IMO shouldn't hapen so I'll ask him to restore those too. The most likely explanation is that a mod was going through all the permenant images and removed some low rated images without realising they were contest/project images.
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::djrangman
02/07/07 12:52 AM GMT
ah, np. I was actually thinking of re-doing my card if this deck looks like it will be completed. We'll see- thx Samatar.
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.Canuck_Photo_Guy
02/07/07 2:21 PM GMT
any word on how to register for this? I pm'd Grimbug a few days ago (a little more than a week I think) and haven't heard back? Is this activity full?
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"To photograph is to hold one's breath, when all faculties converge to capture fleeting reality. It's at that precise moment that mastering an image becomes a great physical and intellectual joy." ~ Henri Cartier-Bresson
+Samatar
02/08/07 1:46 AM GMT
Check his profile page to see when he last logged on. He may have an email address listed there as well.
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.Canuck_Photo_Guy
02/08/07 2:19 AM GMT
Aaaahhh, that'd be why, Last Visit: 29/12/06 4:45 PM
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