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&trisbert
07/05/07 10:28 PM GMT
I’m glad you like “The Essence of Life” Hannie. I enjoyed reading your comments about it. Thank you.
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There are three colours, Ten digits and seven notes, its what we do with them that’s important. Ruth Ross
::J_272004
07/05/07 10:49 PM GMT
Hi Hannie.. thankyou for your lovely comment on Entrance To Paradise.. i'm so glad you enjoyed it.. it's a beautiful place
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MY GALLERY ........... "Live one day at a time and make it a masterpiece"
::bean811
07/06/07 2:38 AM GMT
Hey Hannie...thanks for your comments on "Underneath"...I appreciate the visit! It's definitely a neat place to visit and its only about 45 minutes from where I live, so I can make easy trips.
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As a wise man once said, "Wherever you go, there you are."
::twinkel
07/06/07 9:30 PM GMT
thanx Hannie for your lovely words on 'rain again'
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laughter is the best medicine.
::kodo34
07/07/07 3:35 PM GMT
Hey Hannie , thx for the comment on Head to Head , glad you liked it .
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....Dreamstime..... Art is born of the observation and investigation of nature. Big stock photo
::twinkel
07/07/07 6:40 PM GMT
thanx Hannie for your lovely words on 'tools':)
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laughter is the best medicine.
::tigger3
07/13/07 1:16 AM GMT
Hi Hannie, Thanks for commenting on "come sit"
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::tigger3
07/13/07 1:49 AM GMT
Hannie I'm so pleased you enjoyed "So Midwestern"
♪ ♫ :)sandi ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪
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.ladybughsf
07/13/07 3:00 AM GMT
Thanks so much for the really nice comment! I enjoyed reading it!
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.TrailGypsy
07/13/07 4:40 AM GMT
Hannie, thank you for visiting my "Enchanted Valley 2"...I'm glad you like it! Sherri
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To linger in the observation of things other than the self implies a profound conviction of their worth. Charles-Damian Boulogne
.chukar22
07/14/07 3:22 PM GMT
Hi Hannie. Thanks for your kind comment on Blue Lupine. Your idea is interesting. I'll try to shoot from the angle you suggested next time they bloom. Cheers.
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.Blumie
07/15/07 12:40 AM GMT
Thank you so much for your lovely comment about Graz Streetlife.
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I would be happy, seeing you in my galerie. Today I've posted St. Stephen's detail.
::tigger3
07/15/07 2:30 AM GMT
Hannie, I'm pleased to learn that you enjoyed "So Quiet" it was taken in the morning and the fog was just starting to lift. ><
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::tigger3
07/15/07 2:40 AM GMT
Hi Hannie, I appreciate the kind comment on "Your Best Side Please"
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.chukar22
07/15/07 5:24 AM GMT
Hi Hannie. Thanks for your kind comment on Bicyle Girl. I'd just gotten my new DSLR and was out taking practice shots. I love the colors I got on this shot, especially since I didn't have time to set up or take multiple shots. Cheers.
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::twinkel
07/15/07 8:55 AM GMT
thanx a lot for your lovely words on 'before...'
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laughter is the best medicine.
::zepman4
07/15/07 11:35 PM GMT
Hi Hannie, You are most welcome and keep the great picture's coming.
Charles
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For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son. Whoever puts his trust in God's Son will not be lost but will have life that lasts forever.
::G8R
07/16/07 12:17 AM GMT
Thanks for your nice comment on "The Touch...". I'm glad you liked it.
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My comments will be hit and miss for the next month or so. I'm preparing to return to the U.S. on 1 Aug and will be on vacation until 20 Aug or so...I will be checking though and I look forward to your great shots! L8R...G8R
::jacked
07/16/07 12:33 AM GMT
Hi there Hannie, thanks for taking the time to comment on Places in my mind it's nice to hear from you out there in Vegas. May peace and happiness be your friends always. Dwight.
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.Ayla
07/16/07 7:00 AM GMT
Hi Hannie, thanks for your lovely comments on "Waiting for the Rythm", glad you enjoyed it :)

AylA
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He liveth best who loveth best- All creatues, great and small- For the good God Who loveth us- He made them first of all- -Coleridge-
::djholmes
07/16/07 2:57 PM GMT
Hi Hannie, thanks for taking the time to comment on my Windows of Venice post. I'm glad you're enjoying my Italy series.
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Several of my photos are available for purchase in larger format at Shutterpoint, and some are also available in high quality framed prints at http://djholmes.imagekind.com/
.ls123
07/16/07 4:45 PM GMT
Many thanks for your lovely words on Tainted Treasure :-)
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"Love does not dominate; it cultivates." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
.rozem061
07/16/07 5:37 PM GMT
Hoi, Hannie!
Heel erg bedankt voor je mooie commentaar op mijn wesp
"Camouflage"
Ik moet er bijna van blozen, maar het geeft wel een goed gevoel!
Groet!
John
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MY PHOTOGRAFIC VISION... I am not an artist, I only let you see with my eyes...!
.boremachine
07/16/07 6:59 PM GMT
Hi Hannie!
Thanks a lot for your great and lovely comment on 'Myra Falls 6' :o))
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If you have some minutes why don't you come visiting my gallery ?
.boremachine
07/16/07 7:02 PM GMT
Thanks also for your very nice visit on 'Myra Falls 7' :o)
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If you have some minutes why don't you come visiting my gallery ?
.boremachine
07/16/07 7:20 PM GMT
Thanks also for your lovely words on 'Myra Falls 12' ;o)
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If you have some minutes why don't you come visiting my gallery ?
.Phil2001
07/16/07 11:54 PM GMT
Hey Hannie Thanks for the comment on Ireland Much appreciated
-Phil
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Feel Free To Check Out My Gallery There is too many Macro shots of flowers its becoming too common!!!
::legster69
07/17/07 12:31 AM GMT
Thanks very much for your comments on "Turtle Pond Flight," Hannie. Very nice to hear from you :)
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~Robert~
.ls123
07/17/07 3:07 PM GMT
Very kind of you to appreciate my alternative view on Swirling Skirts :-)
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"Love does not dominate; it cultivates." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
::DigiCamMan
07/17/07 4:32 PM GMT
Hey Hannie,

Thanks for the comments on 'Night Lights' very much appreciated.
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. Albert Camus ........ My Gallery
.Kevin_Hayden
07/18/07 10:22 PM GMT
Thanks for your comment on the "Ancient Rat Throne"
:)
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.boremachine
07/19/07 5:58 AM GMT
Thanks Hannie for your lovely comment on 'Myra Falls 14' ;o))
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If you have some minutes why don't you come visiting my gallery ?
::DigiCamMan
07/19/07 8:06 AM GMT
Hey Hannie,

Thanks for the comments on 'My Mistake...It's Not the Airport' very much appreciated.
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. Albert Camus ........ My Gallery
::DigiCamMan
07/19/07 6:52 PM GMT
Hey again Hannie,

Thanks for the comments on 'Sunset Cruise' very much appreciated.
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. Albert Camus ........ My Gallery
::ericfx
07/19/07 7:25 PM GMT
hi Hannie, thank you for commenting on Squirrel Friend. I'm glad you liked it.
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I need your opinion please! I'm entering a photo competition. Please go to my gallery and tell me which one of these five you like the best? A.) Up Close and Personal B.) This Beetle Likes Pink C.) This Beetle Likes Pink II D.) Love Bugs E.) One Thirsty Fly
::JQ
07/20/07 11:47 AM GMT
Hi Hannie, glad you enjoyed poppy middle!! have a nice weekend missus!
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::djholmes
07/22/07 12:16 AM GMT
Hi Hannie, thanks for the kind words on Old World Charm. I'm glad you liked it.
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Several of my photos are available for purchase in larger format at Shutterpoint, and some are also available in high quality framed prints at http://djholmes.imagekind.com/
::G8R
07/22/07 5:20 AM GMT
Hannie ~ Thanks so much for your kind words on "Top of the Falls". I'm excited that you liked it that much and I appreciate you taking the time to look at it...Chris
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My comments will be hit and miss for the next month or so. I'm preparing to return to the U.S. on 1 Aug and will be on vacation until 20 Aug or so...I will be checking though and I look forward to your great shots! L8R...G8R
::DigiCamMan
07/24/07 4:16 AM GMT
Hey Hannie,

Thanks for the comments on 'The Other Side (HDR)' very much appreciated.
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. Albert Camus ........ My Gallery
::tigger3
07/28/07 1:29 PM GMT
Hello Hannie, I appreciate your kind comment on "River Walk" It wsa a great place to walk despite the terrilbe muggy heat.
♫ ♪ ♫ :)sandi ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫
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I really enjoy hearing from my caedes friends.
::jswgpb
07/28/07 3:31 PM GMT
Thanks Hannie for your recent comments on my work. It is very much appreciated my dear. :) John
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Always remember - Follow the Yellow Brick Road, it will lead you to the Emerald City and OZ A very nice place to be. Trust me on this one, I live there. :-)................ MY GALLERY - THE LION****Another Site I'm AT - MY DA HOMEPAGE
::ericfx
07/28/07 4:45 PM GMT
howdy Hannie. Thank you for your very kind words on "I Love Tomatoes." I'm so glad you liked it, as it was something different I was trying.
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I need your opinion please! I'm entering a photo competition. Please go to my gallery and tell me which one of these five you like the best? A.) Up Close and Personal B.) This Beetle Likes Pink C.) This Beetle Likes Pink II D.) Love Bugs E.) One Thirsty Fly If there is another image in my gallery you think I should consider, I'm open to suggestions.
::zepman4
07/28/07 7:55 PM GMT
Hannie,

Thank you for taking the time to look at and comment on ,
"A Hill Country Moment 2".

Charles
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For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son. Whoever puts his trust in God's Son will not be lost but will have life that lasts forever.
.shedhead
07/29/07 7:48 PM GMT
Thanks for stopping bye and comenting on Little Flower,and in your picture,the flowers do look alike.
Thanks Brian
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I might not be able to comment on all your pictures,But l try to look at as many as l can. Thanks My Friends.
::LynEve
07/30/07 11:58 AM GMT
Kia Ora Hannie :) Many thanks for your kind words on my Green Orchid, they meant a lot :)
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The question is not what you look at, but what you see ~ Marcel Proust
::G8R
07/30/07 2:55 PM GMT
Hi Hannie ~ Thanks for yor comments on my Heidelberg night shots...always appreciated.
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::MarianaEwa
08/01/07 8:43 PM GMT
Hi Hannie, thanks for the sweet and kind comments on Path around Kastelholms Castle much appreciated.
Have a great evening :)
Mariana
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::tigger3
08/06/07 1:11 AM GMT
Hey Hannie, I really did enjoy hearing from you and thanks for the comment on "Low Lying Fog> sandi ♪ ♫
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.photos_587
08/06/07 1:12 AM GMT
Hi Hannie: Thanks for your comments on "Airport Sunset". Glad that you stopped by, I appreciate it. ;-)
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Sorry that I haven't been commenting more. Just got lazy? But I did look at most of them. And again, thanks to all of you for your comments on mine. Steve
::zepman4
08/06/07 2:51 AM GMT
Thanks for taking the time to view my photo. Really appreciate your kind comments.

Charles
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For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son. Whoever puts his trust in God's Son will not be lost but will have life that lasts forever.
::ianmacappin
08/06/07 7:27 PM GMT
Thanks Hannie for stopping by'Misty Boat' I`m very glad you liked it.

Ian :)
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Save the Cheerleader......Save the World! Ians gallery
::tigger3
08/07/07 12:07 AM GMT
I really appreciate the kind words on "At the River Edge"
sandi ♪ ♫
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I really enjoy hearing from my caedes friends.
.spoton
08/08/07 3:09 AM GMT
Thank you for commenting on 'Portrait of a tiger'. I'm glad you liked it.
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Charlie
::tigger3
08/09/07 12:12 AM GMT
Hello Hannie, Thank you for the very kind comment on "At the Rivers Edge #2"
sandi ♪ ♫
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I really enjoy hearing from my caedes friends.
::tigger3
08/09/07 12:52 AM GMT
It's nice to hear from you Hannie and so glad you enjoyed "River Walk #5" sandi ♪ ♫
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.SRHampton
08/09/07 4:15 AM GMT
Hannie, I very much appreciate your encouraging words on Dover Window. As an admirer of your work I value your feedback, absolutely. Thank you!
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"There are no rules and regulations for perfect composition. If there were we would be able to put all the information into a computer and would come out with a masterpiece. We know that's impossible. You have to compose by the seat of your pants." -Arnold Newman
::ironjoe
08/09/07 4:19 PM GMT
(Yarrow)
Your compliments are well received, believe me.. Thank you.
Joe
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To be patient is to have the wisdom of age..
.hekirby
08/09/07 8:47 PM GMT
Thanks for the encouragement on Venice in Praha. It is much appreciated.
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Find your own answers. Nobody else has them.
::ianmacappin
08/09/07 9:24 PM GMT
Hi Hannie, Big thanks for the shout on 'Hotel zone' I`m very glad you liked it.

Ian :)
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Save the Cheerleader......Save the World! Ians gallery
::verenabloo
08/10/07 7:37 AM GMT
Hello Hannie...I love your name by the way...and I want to say thank you for enjoying my photo called Radical Meltdown...it's always such fun to make those, so relaxing and then to know you've enjoyed it...here you are so far from where I live, and yet we enjoy each others company so to speak. Isn't it special?
Thank you so so much for your lovely comment..Verena
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Living is like licking honey off a thorn....
.TrailGypsy
08/11/07 1:58 AM GMT
Thanks for your comments on "See the light"...I'm so glad you enjoy seeing where my travels take me! :)
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To linger in the observation of things other than the self implies a profound conviction of their worth. Charles-Damian Boulogne
::JQ
08/13/07 2:46 PM GMT
hi ya hannie, glad you enjoyed the flamingos! jan
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.Blumie
08/13/07 2:48 PM GMT
Thanks a lot for your nice words about Caedes Meeting. I am happy you did enjoy it. It was so nice to meet Hans.
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I would be happy, seeing you in my galerie. Today I've posted Sculptures at Maria Hietzing.
.shedhead
08/13/07 8:46 PM GMT
Hi and many thanks,for your comment on Northeast England,there really appreciated.Brian.
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I might not be able to comment on all your pictures,But l try to look at as many as l can. Thanks My Friends.
::tigger3
08/13/07 9:46 PM GMT
Hannie I really appreciate the very kind comment on "I Wanna Be Like You Dad"
sandi ♪ ♫
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I really enjoy hearing from my caedes friends.
.boremachine
08/13/07 9:52 PM GMT
Hi Hannie!
Thanks for your lovely comment on my recent holiday posts :o)
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If you have some minutes why don't you come visiting my gallery ?
.Jay_Underwood
08/14/07 1:05 AM GMT
Hi Hannie;
Thanks for the nice comment on "heading up stream". It was the perfect day for getting some good shots. Take it easy!
-Jay.
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.timvdb
08/14/07 7:29 AM GMT
Hey Hannie,
Thanks lots for your lovely words on "Thinking of You", they are very much appreciated,
We do like each other (it used to be different though (~88~)),
Glad you enjoyed it,

Thanks for stopping by
Tim
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-- “If you make a great picture because of an error you made, you just show the picture and talk about how innovative you are” -- Rules of Photography. (~8 8~)
.shedhead
08/14/07 11:50 AM GMT
Thanks Hanne,As always your comment on First Macro,are really appreciated.Thanks Brian.
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I might not be able to comment on all your pictures,But l try to look at as many as l can. Thanks My Friends.
::bean811
08/14/07 11:15 PM GMT
Hey Hannie..thanks so much for your comments on "Barn"..always very much appreciated!!
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Sorry to all...I haven't been commenting as much as I would like to lately. I'm a 9 to 5er again (actually more like 8:15 to 7:30 these days!!) Don't worry, I still see all of your wonderful posts, if only for a second.
::JQ
08/15/07 9:07 AM GMT
Hi Hannie, glad you enjoyed the cygnet, he was so cute! jan
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::LynEve
08/15/07 11:12 AM GMT
Kia Ora Hannie - I really appreciate your very kind remarks on High Tide #1 -thank you :)
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The question is not what you look at, but what you see ~ Marcel Proust
::tigger3
08/16/07 1:26 AM GMT
Hi my friend and thanks for the nice one on " A Red?"
sandi ♪ ♫
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+mayne
08/16/07 1:57 AM GMT
Hello Hannie! Thank you for the comment on "Jail Trail".
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Darryl
.Ponde
08/16/07 11:33 AM GMT
Nice to hear Hannie that you like cats and my photo :)

- Antti
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::Foxfire66
08/18/07 4:02 AM GMT
Thanks so much Hannie,
really appreciate your nice comment on "Tree Frog". :-)

Glad ya liked the little guy.
You've got an incredible gallery! Thanks for taking the time to comment.
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::tiganitos
08/18/07 9:46 PM GMT
thanks for you comment
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life is a movie that has no genre
::casechaser
09/02/07 2:32 PM GMT
Hannie, thank you for you kind comment on Peace of Mind. I think I may have taken a hundred thirty-two (who's counting) photos that day. I will probably bore the world with a few of them in the future ;) Thanks again for your comment - John
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.timvdb
09/02/07 4:12 PM GMT
Hey Hannie,
Welcome back to Caedes, (~88~)
Thanks for your nice words on "Toyota Ouvert", they are greatly appreciated,
Glad you liked it,

Thanks for stopping by
Warm regards
Tim♥
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-- “If you make a great picture because of an error you made, you just show the picture and talk about how innovative you are” -- Rules of Photography. (~8 8~)
::Papi11on
09/02/07 4:55 PM GMT
Hello there Hannie,

Thank you very much for your positive comments on Autumn Hedgerow Colours.

Good to hear from you!
Anne-Marie
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::cynlee
09/02/07 8:37 PM GMT
Thanks so much for the comment on Morning Fog. I WAS late for work, but I didn't care. lol
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You will be led to the knowledge of the internal things which are invisible to you, by the external things which you see before you. . . . Even so then, we can represent to ourselves in thought the Author of all that is, by contemplating and admiring the (visible) things which He has made, and ever brings into being. - Hermes
::cynlee
09/03/07 8:41 AM GMT
Thanks Hannie for the comment to Little Hummer Guy. I had fun with that one. Thanks.
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You will be led to the knowledge of the internal things which are invisible to you, by the external things which you see before you. . . . Even so then, we can represent to ourselves in thought the Author of all that is, by contemplating and admiring the (visible) things which He has made, and ever brings into being. - Hermes
.boremachine
09/03/07 6:32 PM GMT
I was taking shots there ;o)
And of this woman I only took this single one!
Thanks Hannie for your very nice visit on 'Silence' :o))
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If you have some minutes why don't you come visiting my gallery ?
.boremachine
09/03/07 6:40 PM GMT
Thanks also for being at 'Mother Love' and your lovely comment :o)
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If you have some minutes why don't you come visiting my gallery ?
.alexis518
09/03/07 7:56 PM GMT
Thanks so much for your comments at fallow field, Hannie. I'm sure to post more of other fields. The area is made up of many farms.
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Much of the beauty in life is found in people who care.
::LynEve
09/04/07 1:29 PM GMT
Kia ora hannie, thanks for your lovely coment on Make A Wishe :) I really appreciate it :)
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The question is not what you look at, but what you see ~ Marcel Proust
::dutch_postings
09/16/07 9:59 PM GMT
Hoi Hannie ! thanks for your nice reply to one of my summer color postings !
Summer is realy getting to a close now here, and soon it is your turn to celebrate the summer :-) I hope we will experiance some nice new shots from South Afria again !
Untill the next time then.
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.braces
09/16/07 10:47 PM GMT
Thanks for kind comment on Boat by Moonlight. I was lucky to be in the right place at the right time.
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.rozem061
09/17/07 8:21 AM GMT
Hoi, Hannie!
Thank you very much for your nice comment on 'Swan Family'
Much appreciated!
Vriendelijke Groet!
John
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MY PHOTOGRAFIC VISION... I am not an artist, I only let you see with my eyes...!
.bean811
09/19/07 2:30 AM GMT
Hey Hannie..thanks for your comments on "Meadow Fence"...always much appreciated!!
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Sorry to all...I haven't been commenting as much as I would like to lately. I'm a 9 to 5er again (actually more like 8:15 to 7:30 these days!!) Don't worry, I still see all of your wonderful posts, if only for a second.
.timvdb
10/09/07 5:38 PM GMT
Hi Hannie,
Thanks for your very welcome words on "Red Window", I truly enjoyed them, much appreciated,
So glad you liked it, (~8

Thanks for having a peek
Warm♥regards
Tim
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"Everything fails, as long as you define enough requirements for success" (~8 8~)
::rahto
03/28/09 1:45 PM GMT
Thanks Hannie for the comments on my picture “Winners And losers” Most of the people fish when their down by the river but a few of us take pictures.
Bob

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.janroel
06/05/09 3:36 PM GMT
Thanks Hannie for the nice comment on *Flamengo*Much apprecaited!
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**Enjoy..Be Happy**
.markvc1
06/05/09 3:57 PM GMT
Thanks hannie for you kind comments on both back view and its spring again!
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.Lynthirteen
06/13/09 11:32 AM GMT
Hello, I would like to say thank you for taking the time to view and comment on my photos. I am so pleased you liked them. your comments were very much appreciated. Lyn.
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.rozem061
06/13/09 4:50 PM GMT
Hoi, Hannie !
Thank you very much for stopping by on 'Field of Crocuses' !
John

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-*A Wallpaper is worth a million words - And I leave them Speechless!*- ...
.slow_2gojoe
06/20/09 2:57 PM GMT
Hannie, I appreciate your kind commments on "Florida Reflections"
Joe
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.rozem061
06/20/09 5:29 PM GMT
Thanks Hannie, for stopping by on 'Prince garden'!
Regards!
John
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-*A Wallpaper is worth a million words - And I leave them Speechless!*- ...
.avedeloff
06/20/09 9:41 PM GMT
Thanks for the nice comment on "Alone"!
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"Hurry to meet Death before your place is taken."
.LANJOCKEY
08/20/12 1:17 AM GMT
Hello Hannie....Many thanks for taking the time to view(SHAFT OF LIGHT)and for your comments,it is very much appreciated....I remember I waited a very long time for that shaft of light to appear through the clouds...Thankyou again...All the very best to you Hannie....Mick.
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