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.Artisian4
03/09/06 8:38 PM GMT
I know how to resize images when my image is smaller than the size I want to make larger to fit Caedes site for upload ( I must subtract my size from the image size I need for upload at Caedes)..however, when my photo is much larger then allowed sizes, how to subtract so I can fit the photo and enter into canvass resising program>?? For example, say my photo is 2500x1850........that means I cannot subtract the number to resize because it is already larger than allowed sized in upload site( I would get a negative integer).......the biggest allowed is not large enough. I hope I am being clear enough about this.........thanks, Andre
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::philcUK
03/09/06 10:15 PM GMT
then you would have to slightly dissproportionately scale your image - 64% in the width and 64.86% in the height which would give you a 1600 x 1200 image.
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.Artisian4
03/09/06 10:28 PM GMT
i do not know how to do this...........can you give formula for any photo??
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::MiLo_Anderson
03/09/06 10:42 PM GMT
What program are you using?
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.Artisian4
03/09/06 10:58 PM GMT
Hi, Milo.....using irfanview.....do not know how i can subtract a larger number from a smaller .........also sometimes, I get an odd number which means division results in a half number and cannot use this to generate correct numbers /size
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::philcUK
03/09/06 11:13 PM GMT
then you would have to use infranview's resample/resize option where you enter either percentages in fractions or whole integer pixel dimensions. you will have to turn off preserve aspect ration if you need to disproportionately scale your image.
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.Artisian4
03/10/06 12:36 AM GMT
I wonder if i am misssing something here...i am sure others have photos which are larger than upload sizes permitted by Caedes sizes.......what are they doing to resize?? There has to be a way to subtract a larger number from the smaller to get the correct sizes fror upload......if I turn off aspect ratio, the photo is often terribly distorted. Irfan view allows resampling and resizing and I know how to use except for my photos which start out very large.......they are not from digital camera...........what to do?! I have a lot of very good quality photos which I cannot upload.........you talk of disproportinately scaling my image,,do not understand.........
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.KEIFER
03/10/06 1:10 AM GMT
1) .. Leave aspect ratio turned on

2) .. Decide what size you wish to upload .. I'll choose 1600x1200

3) .. Open the image in irfanview .. then go to RESAMPLE in the image menu

4) .. Enter a number in the width box and see what you get .. so we enter 1600

5) .. We end up with 1600x1184 (with aspect ratio turned on)

6) .. Now .. treat it as a "smaller than caedes size" and pad it out via the CANVAS size dialog

7) .. 1200 minus 1184 equals 16 .. divide that in half = 8 .. place 8 in the top\bottom boxes of the CANVAS size dialog

8) .. NOW .. SAVE AS .. (*make sure your JPEG quality is set HIGH (90-100) because the website creates images from your high quality upload and there will be quality loss*)
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::philcUK
03/10/06 1:23 AM GMT
i am doubting though that less than 1 percent difference in the scaling ratios would be 'terribly distorted' - more like barely perceptable.
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::philcUK
03/10/06 1:24 AM GMT
:-)
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.Artisian4
03/10/06 1:42 AM GMT
I did exactly as you suggested..does not work..if i enter the 1600 for width, the number in adjacent box changes according to image size and is sometimes larger than the 1600 so cannot be subtracted.......back to original problem, then! And, the distortion is "terribly distorted".....I have kept aspect ration on as you said, went to padding out with numbers folllowing your thoughts and still no luck.........by the way, 1600 does not automatically result in 1184 (it is instead 1844).anyway, thanks for attempts........I am moving on.......
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+Samatar
03/10/06 1:44 AM GMT
NM
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-Everyone is entitled to my opinion-
.KEIFER
03/10/06 2:08 AM GMT
How could it be 1844 when it started out as 1850? .. anyway .. I'm moving on
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.Artisian4
03/10/06 2:12 AM GMT
Keifer.......you have been hostile to me more than once,,,,,I do not need your feigned superiority. I followed your ideas to the letter and I know what i know. Do not communicate with me any longer.....smart-ass behavior is not becoming......
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.animaniactoo
03/10/06 2:33 AM GMT
I have seen him give you explicit directions on this more than once. I'd say he's attempted to be quite helpful. Of course, that's just my opinion. I suggest you reread his directions and see if there's a step that you've missed.
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::laurengary
03/10/06 2:57 AM GMT
Actually Andre, I thought Keifer merely sounded confused, not superior, & I fail to see the reason for your attack. As usual, he's been extremely helpful to another Caedes member & the way I see it, has gone out of his way to try to solve your problem for you. Cat has it right, perhaps you missed something in his extremely clear directions & just need to go back, re-read them & do them again.
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::J_272004
03/10/06 3:10 AM GMT
ummm Excuse Me!!!!!!... i cant see how that Keifer is giving you hostile behaviour and being a smart ass... i see it as a step by step helpful direction... he has taken the time to write it out very easily to follow.. so that YOU can understand it.... as for his knowledge of this subject and most programs is SUPERIOR.... i do not understand how you can not adjust the image size, I have infraview and it works fine.. try taking off the aspect ratio and putting in 1600 width and 1200 height and see what happens... or as you say its not a digital photo.. maybe try scanning it in as a bigger size... and if you call people hostile and smart asses who are taking the time to help you more than once I might add.. you will find you wont get as much as a response to your questions that you will be hoping for.. the Caedes community take time to help other members as well as visitors on here with any questions for help, however if you call them names you will find they wont be as willing..
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.Artisian4
03/10/06 3:28 AM GMT
Lauren...follow his directions and see how far you get.............;"J"......you do not know what you are talking about...you must like distorted images......my photos are too good to allow that....For everyone else: I have followed his directions and they do not work..........subtraction is not even correct..and the wording is vague and assumptive...i have no more to say on the subject...........I think Keifer can speak for himself.
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.animaniactoo
03/10/06 3:30 AM GMT
I thought this was kind of helpful, and then there was that which seemed to have been quite appreciated. After the incident, he was nice enough to try giving step by step instructions one more time. You said you were moving on when it didn't work for you, and so did he after pointing out a logical inconsistency in the results you achieved. How is that hostile?

Pardon me, but Keifer continually goes above and beyond for many members of this site, and is always helpful w/a lil goofballness (which we appreciate very much) tossed in. I had questions when I started posting, and he answered me and made me feel welcome to this site. So what if he gently busted my chops a lil bit? It was clearly all in fun, and I appreciated the humor and the help. He did the same exact thing for you, and I do believe you've both taken it the wrong way and owe him an apology.

P.S. As a former math team member, I checked his math. It's perfect. You have clearly read one of the steps wrong. And I have no problems whatsoever following his directions.
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::razorjack51
03/10/06 3:34 AM GMT
Sorry Andre, but I'm with Lauren and Jacqueline here, your hostile attitude toward Keith is ridiculous and unfounded. If you can't follow simple directions without attacking others for your inability to comprehend, then maybe it's time for you to be moving on.
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::J_272004
03/10/06 3:39 AM GMT
EXCUSE ME!!!! how dare you!!... I at least have a brain.. which is more than i can say for you.. you ungrateful jerk.. YES IM ANGRY.. how dare you say that to me.. i was only saying that i cant see how you took that as hostile... and if you want hostile sunshine .. you have picked the wrong person on the wrong day to say that to me... so back off.. and if you need help go find it yourself.. obviously no one can help you because if the try they are hostile even by step by step.... if people say that if works for them.. they are hostile.. you are the one who is being hostile.. i'll be interested to see if you can even do it by Sams tutorial link good luck...
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.Artisian4
03/10/06 3:46 AM GMT
I did not know there are so many "geniuses " here!!
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::J_272004
03/10/06 3:47 AM GMT
not geniuses.. just people who know what they are talking about... =)
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"I cannot change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination" / Jimmy Dean
.Artisian4
03/10/06 3:54 AM GMT
None of you have figured out that the height dimension is and cannot be a constant; it is contigent on the initial image size;therefore, his figure of 1184 does not make sense and does not apply to each image-contrary to his and your thinking..,,with that in mind, the remainder of his plan collapses...i will not be responding to any more so-called "non-hostile" replies from any of you, so...........Que le monde aie la chance avoir pas toi dedans!
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::laurengary
03/10/06 3:58 AM GMT
I beg your pardon. I fail to understand why you must continually berate & verbally abuse people who have only tried to help you. Keifer has on more than one occasion gone out of his way to help you, & I know for a fact that this is not the first time you have kicked him in the teeth for it. What I don't understand is why, instead of working with someone who is only trying to help you, you get angry, defensive & abusive. Feeling a little inferior are we ? Not to mention your completely unprovoked attack on Jacqueline....where's your brains ? If all you want is a forum to attack & abuse other people, I'd like to suggest that this is NOT the place for that. If you want honest help, that's a different matter, but I see little evidence of that. I suggest you try Sam's tutorial & call it a night ....
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::laurengary
03/10/06 4:00 AM GMT
Oh goody, throw in a comment in French.....how very mature....what, you can't say it to our faces bucko ?
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.KEIFER
03/10/06 4:15 AM GMT
My general directions will work for ANY image size .. those are as follows:

enter a single desired size into one of the boxes (ie = width) .. and see what you get for the other dimension (with aspect ratio ON) .. if it doesn't work the way you want then start over .. enter the the height and see where the width falls to

these directions will work for sizing up or down


The fact that I used the specific size of 1184 are simply because you have proven an inability to "Get It" and that you need your hand held

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.animaniactoo
03/10/06 4:15 AM GMT
The height of 1850 proportionally becomes 1184 when you resize the width from 2500 to 1600 with aspect ratio turned on. He did not give you a constant, he gave you the exact correct proportions & results for changing the image size that you described.

I will break it down for you.

1600 is 64% of 2500
1184 is 64% of 1850

You need to be at 1200, therefore

1200 - 1184 = 16
16 divided by 2 = 8

8 is the number you need to add to the top and bottom of your canvas area.

This results in a 1600 x 1200 image with very thin borders on the top of your undistorted photo.

As I said before, I believe you need to go back and reread his directions and figure out where you went wrong.

If 4 people can understand it, and you can't, look to yourself for the confusion.
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One man sees things and says "why?", but I dream things that never were and say "why not?"
::laurengary
03/10/06 4:25 AM GMT
" Que le monde aie la chance avoir pas toi dedans! "

" The world would be lucky not to have you idiots " So, how far off was I ?


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.KEIFER
03/10/06 4:29 AM GMT
Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem

(*snicker*)
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::J_272004
03/10/06 4:35 AM GMT
LMAO...
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"I cannot change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination" / Jimmy Dean
.animaniactoo
03/10/06 4:49 AM GMT
hmmm… I need to go find my Keifer Latin to English translator
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::laurengary
03/10/06 5:00 AM GMT
LOL with Keifer

Sunt pueri pueri, puerilia tractant
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+Samatar
03/10/06 5:08 AM GMT
Personally I would take the own members advice here and simply ignore him and any future requests for help, or anything else he says or posts for that matter... since no one seems to be able to say ANYTHING without upsetting him...
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::J_272004
03/10/06 5:57 AM GMT
spot on sam... waste of time banging your head on a brickwall.. =PP
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"I cannot change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination" / Jimmy Dean
.scionlord
03/10/06 10:59 PM GMT
I think Artisan might be trying to add the 8 pixels either side without taking the aspect ratio off.
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::Morwyn
03/10/06 11:02 PM GMT
Oh, this is a good one.. I need to check in more often..

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One bead at a time
::J_272004
03/10/06 11:09 PM GMT
I told him to take the ratio off.. but apparently that still didnt work... *sigh
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"I cannot change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination" / Jimmy Dean
::Morwyn
03/10/06 11:57 PM GMT
Maybe he doesn't understand the language, or maybe he's just another hernoor.
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One bead at a time
::jds
03/12/06 4:42 PM GMT
Why don't we all chill out and go to the BBQ guys.Once again the advice is .....
Principles before Personalities......Jim
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.Artisian4
03/17/06 4:24 AM GMT
jds----Thank you for being sensible....i have not returned here till tonight( an attempt to shut down the hostility by not contributing) after noting my work/photos have been ignored in recent days......suspecting trouble, I came here and found reference to a suggestion my questions and anything else i post be ignored..........an unkind idea and only meant to further contentious remarks...Again, thank you.........I very much appreciate that.Andre
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::J_272004
03/17/06 4:33 AM GMT
I know this has nothing to do with Sizing, but i cant see how you can say your work/photos have been ignored when you have had 15 views/10 downloads on Tipere, 22views/10downloads on Foreboding and 40views/23downloads on Summer Heat.. i would say thats pretty good viewing..
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"I cannot change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination" / Jimmy Dean
.Artisian4
03/17/06 4:37 AM GMT
Only replying to positive, kind , non-argumentative messages...........
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::J_272004
03/17/06 4:39 AM GMT
I wasnt arguing i was being positive.. by saying that you have a good amount of views and downloads.. if you noticed i said it was pretty good... but i guess even trying to be nice is arguing.. I give up..
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"I cannot change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination" / Jimmy Dean
+Samatar
03/17/06 4:43 AM GMT
Like the kind you posted... saying that everyone who posted here was a jerk with an IQ inferioir to your own etc etc... do you think THAT might have anything to do with your not getting comments on your iimages?? Of course, you couldn't be responsible for that could you. No, it must be that fact that I asked people not to pay attention to such obviously inflammatory posts that caused the problem.

It must be nice to live in your universe, where you are right and everyone else is wrong. Oh, and regarding that apology you are expecting from me... I wouldn't hold your breath. Now I am going to take my own advice and go back to ignoring you again.
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.Artisian4
03/17/06 4:52 AM GMT
samatar.........I see you need the attention here vs replying directly to me.........not surprised--a characterisitic of a passive-agressive personality........ I note you left out the cogent/salient points I made in my mail to.you........guess you did not want others to read those...might see MY point of view.....and, BTW I did not say everyone was a jerk-only those who insulted me first......get your facts straight. When one is right, one is right. Vive le clique!!
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::J_272004
03/17/06 4:55 AM GMT
hahahaha your passive-agressive Sam?? lol
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"I cannot change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination" / Jimmy Dean
.animaniactoo
03/17/06 5:09 AM GMT
lmao… ok… now THAT was funny. will he get his next analysis corrent?

*shakes the magic 8 ball*
outlook not so good
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::laurengary
03/17/06 5:22 AM GMT
LMAO ....The Doctor is in ! Next ! So, Doc....what'dya charge ??

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+Samatar
03/17/06 5:28 AM GMT
I only read a few lines of your PM before deleting it. I am really not interested in anything you have to say.
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-Everyone is entitled to my opinion-
::J_272004
03/17/06 5:49 AM GMT
well sunshine i know your going to read this because you can't resist it.. so I just want to thankyou so much for your wonderful personal message, (this time your right, i definately dont mean to be nice.. ) hope the sugary sweetness of these words get stuck in your throat..
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"I cannot change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination" / Jimmy Dean
::razorjack51
03/18/06 2:15 AM GMT
Well, apparently I was right the first time. He doesn't comprehend things very well, does he? I know you're reading this Andre. You don't treat people like crap, and have the nerve to expect decency from them in return. Someone tries to be nice to you and you still act like a stupid jerk! You won't get any symapthy or respect from me anymore, and you can bank on that. Don't bother pm'ing me either, you'll definitely be ignored.
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.isaacp
03/19/06 12:50 AM GMT
geez, i need some popcorn... i think everyone needs to cool off a bit.
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