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New Art Council caedes 06/01/10 12:20 AM GMT I am testing a new feature called the Caedes Art Council. The idea is to take some of the work off the Senate members by allowing more members to decide which images are good enough to include in the "permanent" galleries. The official description of the council is here. Please include any comments, questions, or concerns in this thread. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3004598
Voting Zero Mythmaker 10/23/10 6:05 AM GMT I was recently surprised to see a comment somewhere on Caedes that the person writing would "never" give a zero in the vb. I was surprised because such a stance had never occurred to me and it got me thinking about the issue.The foundation point for my reasoning on this issue is that every image in the VB is there voluntarily, it's possible to post your photos here without submitting them to the VB so anyone who does submit to the VB has made a choice to get voting feedback.I have seen in the VB http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3211100
Vote attacking Radjehuty 08/16/05 5:26 AM GMT Ok normally I wouldn't care, but this is just hillariously obvious. My image was a 98 today, and another comment appeared on it giving me another 10/10, and by some STRANGE COSMIC FORCE, it dropped it to a 93. I know I've been in discussion boards and voiced my oppinions and pissed off a few people, but you people have to grow up and not use lame attacks just because you don't like the way I think. I would NEVER do that to you! You people know who you are, and you really should be ashamed th http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=458265
Modification to the Voting and Upload system caedes 03/14/09 11:05 PM GMT I made some changes to the Upload and voting booth today. Now, if you wish for your image to appear in the voting booth and get a c-index, you will have to vote on 10 images. This goes for those in the Cadre as well. You do not have to vote on any images in order to upload an image. Your uploaded image will just not be voted on and will not get a c-index. When you view the "step #1" upload page, you will be notified if you have voted enough to allow the image to appear in the voting booth. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=2548100
Low voting CaptainHero 06/25/05 10:40 AM GMT Like most members I don't take much notice of the Caedes Control option showing the breakdown of statistics for your images. After all, I don't upload images just to see how many votes I can get! However, recently I have looked at a few of my submissions periodically to see how they fare. A number of times I have seen a similar pattern - the first one or two votes I receive are high and then suddenly it plummets. Take one image I uploaded recently for example: I checked it soon after submissi http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=415531
Variations LynEve 07/10/11 1:07 PM GMT This is not really a request for comment - just something I found interesting and not sure where else to post it.I managed to get a very wide variety of scores in the VB on one image - from zero to 9 which confirms that everyone sees things differently, but it does surprize me that one person considers it trash (zero) and another gave it a 9. I have never had this happen before.Have you?CLICK to see summary. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3400681
"Membership at Work.. purmusic 01/09/11 12:32 AM GMT .. do not disturb."____________________________________________________________Resurrecting parts of Mikel's ; aka Mythmaker discussion thread. Namely that of; "Voting Zero".Parts, that is ... if 'you' (speaking generally here) wish to read it in it's entirety. Linked above.The parts..Nik; aka Nikoneer towards the end of that discussion (as it now sits) put forth this post:"I generally start each voting with a 5 then add or subtract for the the various visual elements that all images, whether th http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3272969
Voting hiker 05/02/06 2:18 PM GMT Can someone clarify this for me?? It seems that selective voting has been disabled, yet the option to vote on specific images of your chosing still appears. When you attempt to vote though, you are redirected to the page showing the (formerly 2) voting options. Is this a permanent change, or will the voting buttons eventually be removed, so that they don't appear on each individual image page? Thanks for any light that you can shed on this! http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=791097
About hitting the vote button? mmynx34 04/05/06 8:05 AM GMT I am not so sure about this, and think I'm doing this wrong.. so can anyone please enlighten me as to.... If i choose a number to "vote" but do not hit the "vote" button, and then type a comment and then hit the "post" button beneath, will that enter the vote too, or do I have to first vote, by hitting the vote button and the post a comment by hitting the post button? ermmmm does that make sense to you? cos i'm not so sure i understand it myself...... and please.. no funny answers.. LOL be ge http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=735688
Maintaining Quality caedes 01/08/08 9:53 PM GMT I have to admit that of all the challenges that caedes.net has faced, maintaining a quality inventory of images is the most difficult. Originally, I would only post an image to the site once it had been on my own desktop for a while. This worked well to keep the quality high (at least from my perspective), but it certainly limited the number of images that would go on the site. You may ask "why do we need a set of 'permanent' images?" The truth is that the majority of the site's visitors c http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1920496
Low votes without negative comments DigitalFX 10/20/05 5:45 PM GMT Something strange is going on around here. I've noticed my index scores dropping WAY down on images with nothing but positive comments. What is going on. It seems that there are a number of people going around targeting certain artists with very low scores but without making comments. Some of my best work is dropping rapidly like from over 80:100 to under 40:100 with NO negative comments. That means some VERY low scores. That just is not right. It seems nasty and vengeful. I don't mind ho http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=522278
Voting Booth LynEve 03/02/11 11:14 AM GMT The 'randomness' of images in the voting booth seems a little haywire just now.Of 18 images I just voted on 8 were by the same artist.Two sets of 3 and one set of two from others.16 images from 4 artists. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3311425
Lies, damn lies and statistics crysophilax 05/11/08 10:38 AM GMT It's Sunday morning, I am up early and a little bored. So, having read various posts, including Overrated, I copied the top 100 active members table and did some analysis on it. Some interesting facts emerge. VOTING 15% of the top 100 contribute 50% of the votes. This is VERY SKEWED, as they only contribute 15% of the pictures. 30% of voters contribute 75% of the votes. Also VERY SKEWED. 1 person makes up 8% of the voting, 626 votes. How can this be if there is a limit of 40 votes a day? http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=2125017
Why is it? DigiCamMan 07/21/07 7:31 PM GMT Why is it that lately all my pics start out with a bang and sit there for awhile and all of a sudden they drop 10-20 points? Is this happening to anyone else? What's the deal...are the last few voters hammering the pics. Is Zero at work? They rarely ever go up but go down by at least 10 points on the last couple of votes. Let's do away with the c-index and do a critique box and score the pics there. Don't want your name known in the vote? Don't want to be accountable for your vote? Then just lea http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1643666
Is it time to retire the c-index? J_E_F 05/16/11 10:17 PM GMT When I first got into Caedes, I was intrigued by the c-index system.It was a numerical quantifier to comments and critiques.So I had this strange notion that as I tried to improve my photographic skills, based upon comments, that images would be more polished and presentable, appealing to the compositional aspirations of a desktop picture resource. Then logically, the c-index ratings would improve too.But the c-index system seems to have a mind of its own.And with the ability to now see exactly http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3364306
The voting booth biffobear 08/05/11 4:21 PM GMT Is there anyway we can get rid of the voting booth..I have had a number of my friends asking me why do people give a 0ne or a zero to a perfectly good image..I wouldn't dream of giving such a mark,It's totally degrading.Better to not vote at all..It is my belief whoever does this,Does it in the hope that their image will get a higher ranking..I know for a fact,Certain members do not view fullscreen,Only waiting for the page header to load,Then closing it before the full image appears in order to http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3416790
What? cynlee 03/17/11 9:23 PM GMT Why are the men here so temperamental that they send everything to the graveyard when they don't like the subject matter?Might as well send this to the graveyard now. I am disgusted with the way you mods are always trying to put us down when we have questions or want to ask about something. Well have your little power play if it makes you feel better and continue putting the rest of us down for having ideas or wanting to contribute.What a mockery that we are spoken to in ellipses and riddles and http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3321606
C-index ladybughsf 12/18/06 9:38 PM GMT I know what c-index means, but I am unsure about how it is displayed. If I were to look at a picture and it said, "c-index: 66:100," does that mean that the image is rated at 66 out of 100? http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1277089
C:index cynlee 07/02/08 1:28 PM GMT I know we've been here before, but why can't we just get rid of it (C:index) or replace it with something better? It just irritates everyone because very little thought seems to be put into it these days. I'm not speaking only of my posts, but there are some really fine images on here that are being 'tanked' and they really don't deserve to be. Maybe DigiCamMan was right. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=2213262
Voting Booth houstonaxl 10/23/06 8:02 PM GMT Is there a way to view your Voting results of your images? http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1157181
A certain Sameness crysophilax 02/06/09 6:56 AM GMT I was downloading a picture at work the other day from Caedes and a colleague saw me. He knows I post here and is aware of the site but I still prodded him by saying "you should have a look around for some wallpapers." His reply was interesting. "Well I have looked but its all pretty boring, just snapshots really. Very well taken snapshots, and some pretty scenes, but there's nothing that really hits you." This rather got me thinking and I looked at the perm gallery and it does have a samene http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=2509071
C-index system again corngrowth 06/20/10 7:26 PM GMT I'm not that mad! On the one hand great comments for an image (thanks, my friends), but on the other hand a C-index of only 32 by now, for the same image, forces me to consider seriously whether I should quit with Caedes or not. To me it's really a, hard to understand, hypocrite situation. It seems to be that this voting system has become more and more a lottery, everything is possible from surprising good scores on the one hand to very disappointing results on the other hand for even good ph http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3028079
Where has the C score gone? phasmid 03/01/09 5:42 AM GMT Did I miss a thread? Did it finally happen? Is it true that the c-index no longer exists on individual pics? I have been away for a while, so please excuse and enlighten me if I'm duplicating a discussion thread that deals with this topic. :)PJ http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=2535530
Voting Booth - Too Random CleffedUp 06/11/06 4:25 AM GMT I think the pendulum has swung too far away from the voluntary voting system. I strongly recommend letting the user limit their voting to a random set within a specific genre or one or more user-defined genres. I have no interest in nature photography and so if I encounter a photo of, say, horses frolicing, I'm inclined to vote highly negatively regardless of whatever photographic merit it may have, simply for being a waste of my time. Yes, from the aggregate of my votes and those like-minded http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=867206
Something's Not Right legster69 06/09/07 2:32 PM GMT Am I the only one who feels as if the voting system on here is not anywhere near a true voting system? I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how some of the photos I post score so low and others that are similar, or not even as good, score so high. I am really starting to think that it would be a good idea to have people choose categories they would like to vote on and submit votes only for things they can relate to and give a good, honest evaluation. What I mean is, I love to shoot birds, http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1574374
The Voting Booth muggsy 06/24/06 12:09 AM GMT I'm new to Caedes and find it to be an extremely intricate and well designed site. The only fly-in-the-ointment I've come across is in the voting booth. Understand I have no objection to voting, in fact I rather enjoy giving some feedback to the many talented members of Caedes. My problem lies in having to vote on submissions in catagories such as "Computer" and "Abstract" to name two, which are totally foreign to me. In those genres my ignorance of what some artist may have gone through to pro http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=892618
Elimination of C-index Petition June 01/11/05 8:04 PM GMT Elimination of C-index yes or no! The images should be scored according to Artistic Merit. Let us start up a petition to make changes to the c-index.! Many of us have been conditioned through schooling that we tend to get a little sensitive with regards to the c-index as a reflection of the quality of our work as viewed by others. I think it would be more effective for us to vote and to perhaps select from a list of artistic values on each image. This will help all of us to improve on our wor http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=295335
Vote before download sansoni7 09/01/04 6:44 PM GMT I had an idea. Everybody who put images on Caedes feel unhappy because people don´t vote on the image but made the download, so...they like it. I think people must vote before making the download and, perhaps votes will be more. What do you think of it? And Caedes Moderator what do you think of it ? I am waiting your opinions. César http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=216213
Followup to the AC Poll purmusic 10/09/11 9:29 AM GMT Which is found here.. AC Poll.Some suggestions that were put forth on the Poll's discussion thread:i) Members forwarding a personal choice from their galleries for Main Gallery promotion/ Art Council consideration.ii) Limiting the number of nominations by Art Council members for a given time frame.iii) Increasing the number of nominations by Art Council members for a given time frame.iv) Introduce a time delay (appearance of the 'nomination button' on an image's page) before an image is eligible http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3465083
Caedes for a day... caedes 12/19/07 10:02 PM GMT So if you were caedes for a day (that's me not the website), what changes would you make? http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1892138
Contest voting etc Samatar 10/29/10 1:41 AM GMT I know there is specific info on how voters for the contests are chosen but I can't find it now... maybe add it to the FAQ? And any other details about the contests (eg how many entries, how to enter etc). Alternatively this info could go in the header on the "contests" page. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3216754
"I like this image!" - Voting Alternative - RobNevin 10/09/05 4:23 PM GMT *sigh* I don't really want to start up another thread on voting. That rag's been rung dry and the cost to the site has been great. This thread, however, is sufficiently close that it may just earn me a 48 hour banning. If it does I will restrain myself voluntarily or accept any reasonable sanctions without issue. I have offered this suggestion in other forms but thought I'd float a specific thread on it for feedback from the group. You can see it as a replacement for voting or as an adju http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=513182
Applicable to Caedes Voting System noahnott 03/08/07 4:07 AM GMT here. ...link provided by the same person [Edit This] who always posts amazing links on 'that other site' (dslreports). http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1420696
Vote counting, Notification Dante11 04/26/06 11:12 AM GMT I am wondering if the number for votes shown in Caedes Control is actual number of votes or the average for all votes..........also: possible to notify artist when work placed in Permamnent Gallery? Merci http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=777757
Voting Idea- Thrid_Eye's Idea and Noahnott's noahnott 12/01/06 11:28 PM GMT Third Eye's: "...how about this, breaking the voting up into several categories? say.. 0-5 or whatever on technical merit, 0-5 on composition, and 0-5 on 'overall feel'..? ..." - Third_Eye Noahnott's: 1) Each person votes 1-10 on the image, and a message to go along with it explaining why they got a 5, 10, etc. 2) Min of 5 votes per image now that voters have to write something instead of just pushing a button. For sllooowww dialup users, this would be a good thing. 3) After the minimum of 5 http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1243513
C-Index Ramad 01/05/12 11:11 PM GMT I have been a regular (meaning continuous without long breaks in between) user/member of Caedes now for over 5 years. Caedes has provided me with a wonderful hobby for which I am very grateful. The C-Index was always a helpful scale for me (even if it was at times unfair) to judge the quality of my images. Now I am actually at a loss with no-one and no scale to tell me how good or bad my images are. My own well meaning friends - bless them - will always tell me how nice the images are but real c http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3528185
New C-INDEX noranda 09/19/05 9:06 PM GMT Why some body vote "0" on my best picture 'MIAOU". http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=495430
Too many landscapes Samatar 09/04/11 9:49 PM GMT The main galleries seem to be quickly filling up with the same sorts of images... out of 36 images on the first page, 22 are landscape photographs; mainly mountains, lakes and waterfalls. Obviously these type of shots are very appealing but do we really want the main galleries to be so repetitive? Landscapes aren't the only type of shot that seems to be over represented either... if you throw in flowers, butterflies and hummingbirds there seems to be little else that is being nominated/promoted. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3438660
C-index bcbird 02/14/07 1:14 PM GMT Now that I realize what the c-index is, I feel like i'm either critiqueing to high... or there are some people who just downvote every1. I usually find that I vote fairly, and 9 and 10's don't come out easily... but at the same time i've only given like 2 out of the 100 or so i've voted on less than a 5. Any1's thought? http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1381755
voting zero jeenie11 04/09/11 4:47 AM GMT Well I just had my first experience with the big "0". The other day I uploaded 2 roses. It's interesting to note that each of the two received both a zero and a ten. My oh my!..............OOPS! I just found another with both a zero and a ten. It's called Lakeside. Now really! http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3338211
Art Council cynlee 01/23/11 6:28 PM GMT Is the information about how the Art Council works stored in one place on this site? (Question 1)I have some questions that may be addressed there, but I am not sure, so I will ask here.First let me state what my understanding is of how it works.AC members may nominate 2 images for consideration every 7 days.If a percentage of those nominated images never make it to the main galleries, you can be removed as an AC member. You are not obligated to nominate any images.Question 2:Therefore, if you w http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3285226
What is wrong? ekowalska 09/24/07 7:06 PM GMT Every now and then it happens we upload some less successful photo to this site. I would like to start a new thread where we present one of our worse uploads (low c-index, works that never advanced to the permanent gallery) asking for crtiques. It is more and more difficult to get some decent comment on the shortcomings of our photos. I feel people are afraid to express what they truly think once they watch our works. Another thing is it is very difficult to justify our critical opinions, referr http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1745350
great comments/ lousy score third_eye 04/22/07 2:09 AM GMT Ok, I've given up on trying to figure out what images get what scores, and no, a vote (high or low) doesn't determine (in my eyes) the quality of an image. I opened this image's page, and saw a score in the high40's. ok, fine. but the comments left don't match the score received. So, does this stink,and I'm just getting placated, or is someone trashing me(again) in the VB? I know this topic has, by now, the same effect as fingernails on a blackboard. I'm a supporter of the site, and think it ha http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1494856
The Voting System ladyred 09/05/06 9:51 PM GMT Let me first begin by saying I love coming to this place. I enjoy each and every one of my friends and love viewing and seeing thier works of art.Thank you Guys! I thought about this for a while and debated on whether to say anything about it or not. I am a bit confused and a bit upset about this matter. I have a few questions about the voting system. I had an observation that makes absolutely no sense at all whatsoever. I had an image I posted on the weekend - Juliet, that on Mon mornin http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1054866
Suggestions for improving VOTES and COMMENTS RobNevin 03/29/05 12:51 AM GMT GOAL: Make the reasons for voting better understood at the moment where it's important, increase convenience by extra eliminating steps and unnecessary barriers, improve the visibility of the voting proccess that we want to the viewer to follow. Suggestions for improvements on Comments and Votes: •• That the process for commenting and voting should be one single step, not two. •• That there should be a sentence on the page with the image explaining why the viewer should vote (people travelin http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=346224
Voting Booth abuse verenabloo 04/19/09 4:25 AM GMT Someone made a comment to me, and I agree very much with it. Since we are having to vote for ten images before we post a photo on caedes, it is obvious that people are getting the voting over and done with. This is evidently to put any number down without even thinking about it, but just to get 'it over with' so they can post their own creations. It's a shame that's happening, but it's very apparent.There are some gorgeous things posted with very low numbers and some very "slack" things posted w http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=2585864
Suggestion for the voting booth: categories exclusion palantir 08/22/06 10:08 AM GMT I'd love to have an option to exclude certain categories of pictures, so that they are not presented for voting. In particular, I don't like to be asked to vote abstract images or macro pictures, and I have noticed that tend to give low marks to them, as I am scarcely interested in this kind of artwork. It would be great to be able to exclude these categories, and leave the voting on them to people who like them... http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1019714
The Old Classics Bromios 03/03/05 9:13 PM GMT I know this sounds ridiculously offensive, and it is not my intention to seem to be personally insulting, but I feel overall that there are now far fewer pictures which immediately catch my eye. It may be that I have had too much of a good thing on Caedes, and that I have been spoiled and lost my early innocence, but I would like to have that feeling more often that comes when one discovers a truly timeless and memorable picture. Anyone agree/disagree? http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=329482
Linking Yes or No votes in the CAC to commenting on the photo you vote on. No comment, no vote registered. Mythmaker 10/20/10 5:15 PM GMT Thinking about the new nomination and voting process for the CAC/Perms. Is there any way (Software wise.) to make it mandatory for someone voting on a nominated image to make a comment on the photo? Just a thought. If someone votes yes or no, which the mods will obviously know, and that vote can be measured against what the voter SAYS about the image and what the Mods consider is true about the image, that might make the process of weighing "fair and consistent" voting patterns a bit more st http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3208350
the more I post... stormdancer 11/08/05 9:46 PM GMT Doesn't matter if I post or not, I never get more then 2 pages in my album. every time caedes skips 3 images. I know you can't efford to much webspace.....but some people have 5 pages. whats going on....yesterdays good images are worth nothing anymore today. This actually not help me much to stay and believe things get better over here. In m.h.o. with these new voting booth sytem a lot of the fun dissapeared. Lots of serious artist here complains...so am I. If this is the new kind of caedes I am http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=541531
Is it wise to criticise? Si 04/11/05 8:54 PM GMT A while back I noticed that one author on caedes was benefiting from some dubious voting. For instance, after 13 downloads one image had 39 votes and a rating of 96. At least 26 members must have voted without seeing the image full screen, and most of them thought it worth a score of 10. This is an extreme example, but other images showed a similar pattern. I can't say whether the author himself was responsible, or even aware, or if it was misguided support from others, and in any case the imag http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=356882
C-Index Troubles Radjehuty 09/01/04 6:37 PM GMT I don't know about you, but I am starting to think that there is a real problem with the C-Index, and I am not blaming the formula...Math doesn't lie :) I was thinking that maybe there are people just voting 0 just for kicks or something. I have seen a lot of images that are obviously good, but have rediculously low C-Indexes. I've even seen a work of Tracy's work that is a 69, but won 2nd place in a contest. What do you think could be the problem? I have seen a lot of accounts with 0 Karma http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=216210
Art Council jeenie11 08/03/11 10:52 PM GMT I've had about 50 or so pictures to vote on in the AC for evaluation. I feel a little uncomfortable about the whole thing because I really do not understand how it works. I'm still reeling from the disappointment of having so many of the pictures in the AC upgraded by the AC and nuked by the mods. Will it continue this way? I'd just like to know how much our votes mean. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3415774
How I Vote LynEve 07/23/06 12:44 AM GMT Rightly or wrongly :) this is how I vote 1 - 3 Quality 1 - 3 Content 1 - 2 'Wow' Factor (does it make me linger, does it make me think. Does it make me want to find out more about this artist) 0 - 1 Desktop Value (suitability, not necessarily would I have it on mine) 0 - 1 Personal Choice (probably should not be an issue but I think most would agree it usually is :) ) http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=955675
AUTHORIZED VOTING LIST Parasol 09/22/11 8:05 AM GMT Attempted to vote on Surreal contest and received message "Not on authorized Voting List".What the????? http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3452776
A suggestion for improving voting etiquette… philcUK 09/03/07 2:11 PM GMT Before I get into anything else, I’d just like to make it clear that I’m initiating this discussion as a means for people to evaluate how and why they award a particular score to an image. I don’t intend it to be comment on the pros or cons of the voting system per se and so would appreciate it if, for a change, we could have a rational discussion about it without doing the usual dramas and re-treading old ground. I think it’s pretty clear from even a cursory scan through the new images galleri http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1713821
Vote - why can I no longer do so? Papi11on 06/01/06 11:32 AM GMT When I first joined Caedes [April 06] I never had any trouble voting on the New Images that I'd downloaded and commented on. However, in the last 2 or 3 weeks, whenever I download, comment on and then try to vote [i.e. choose a number between 1 an 10 and click on 'Vote'] I get redirected to the How To Vote page. I've read this page until I'm blue in the face but for the life of me, I can't make out why I cannot vote. I comment regularly on new work in my Friends list, download and comment on http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=847821
Wrong system rozem061 01/08/11 11:20 AM GMT My last upload *Streetsinger 2* has a democratic average score of 5.3 out of 20 votes (I can happy live with that result !)But the Caedes index generate a score, more than halve reduced to a rediculous score of 26 (read 2.6 !)Not a few of 'zero voters' are the cause of a low score, as many of you think, but the 'caedes system' causes an absurd low score on your and mine imagesSee also *THIS thread*John http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3272299
Stillness Speaks mesmerized 03/25/09 4:22 AM GMT The current (Negative Space) contest is over and we all anxiously await the results...it's unlikely there'll be another one for awhile, though we all enjoy them for the attention to detail, originality, and creativity they promote...with that in mind then, plus some of the heated discussion threads recently, it seemed a good time to initiate a challenge or invitation of sorts...borrowing from one of the groups over at Red Bubble, I'd like to suggest the posting of some images that illustrate the http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=2559605
Promotions & Rejections LynEve 02/20/11 2:57 PM GMT I mentioned in another discussion that one or my notified 'promoted' images was not in fact promoted, or if it had been very soon was not. I said it felt like a poke in the eye. I thought it was just the one.I have since checked my caedes control.Since October 26th 2010 I have had ELEVEN notifications of promotions by the Art Council that either never made it to the Main Galleries or have since been culled. I was amazed to discover this - I can not see anything glaringly obviously wrong with the http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3305068
C-index of 7, why??? EmilyH 06/01/06 6:53 PM GMT http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Caedes::Infopage&image=EmilyH-1148913852.jpg WTF? My fractal got a c-index of 7. That's like saying it completely sucks. What the heck? I got such nice comments but such a lousy c-index? I can't believe that people here hate fractals that much that they'd all give me a 0 or a 1! Sheesh. At least give me some feedback and tell me WHY you voted that low. I mean, it really hurts when 11 people essentially say your picture sucks and won't tell you why. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=848441
Bush. Behind or Against him? PuMa 03/02/04 8:38 PM GMT What do u all think? Are u with him? With everything what he is doing? Or do u think he will fail the next campaign, and that that would be quite rightly? Let me know u're opinion about him! http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=84826
Which subjects do you like to photograph? KEIFER 02/23/06 12:00 AM GMT I receive a newsletter from "The Plug-In Site" from having requested access to their freebies section .. it never sets my world on fire .. or .. changes my standard of living. ... But it doesn't piss me off either this month's contained a POLL as they all do `·.¸¸.·´´¯`··._.·`·.¸¸.·´´¯`··._.·`·.¸¸.·´´¯`··._.·`·.¸¸.·´´¯`··._.· POLL RESULTS: Which subjects do you like to photograph the most? ------------------------------------------------ Here are the results of the latest poll with the que http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=660141
Reward systems Romane 03/05/05 11:50 AM GMT Good morning During a most interesting discussion on the quality of images, the use of reward systems was brought up. A request was made that I post my thoughts on this in a separate thread. I work on the principle that once an idea has been voiced, it is no longer the property of the person who spoke but the property of everyone, free to be dissected, analysed, broken apart and reassembled in another form if needed. So feel free. To get the full context, just pop over to "The Old Classics". T http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=330676
Constructive Criticism CanoeGuru 07/20/04 4:03 AM GMT I can't help but notice that most of the comments offered on individuals imges don't offer much constructive criticism. It seems that most of the comments consist of simply "nice shot" or something similar. Not that I think we should be giving "negative" comments, but it would be nice to see some more substance to our comments. What do you think? (Sorry if this thread has been discussed earlier) http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=182324
If I could... CurtieBear 02/04/07 8:11 PM GMT If I could reshape the voting system and permenent galleries, here are some things I would do... 1) Lets disassemble the voting booth and make voting a voluntary thing again. However, you can't place a vote on an image without providing a comment. 2) Upload amounts: Keep the uploads as they are (without the mandatory 10 vote rule for non-cadre members). 3) Do away with the "Perms", as we know it. New uploads stay the "New Images" category for a month. After that, they are then submitted to th http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1363754
Hall of Fame Gallery? reddawg151 06/24/04 6:47 PM GMT I was talking to TracyJTZ on PM and sort of came up with an idea that would help alleviate some of the concerns on the site. It's basically to create a Hall of Fame gallery. The reasoning is that it would create a selective gallery much more reminscient of the galleries before the site was so huge; the images would all be the very best, and the gallery would only grow very slowly. Just to give you an idea what we're looking at so far: A Hall of Fame gallery, where images meeting certain requ http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=164264
Membership at Work - Take Three purmusic 03/26/11 3:16 PM GMT Taken from the "Suggestions Poll":'Voting booth score based on several factors, instead of just one.''More realistic C-index.'Comments/postings (or parts), taken from the "Suggestions Poll" discussion thread:"I'd ask for split voting categories (aesthetic, technical, artistic) as opposed to one arbitrary number.""I'd second the suggestion that voting be categorized with possibly some of the following categories: Aesthetics, technical quality, creativity, comment quantity, Wow factor, etc. The ov http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3327757
Another voting system boremachine 10/10/07 8:21 PM GMT Hello friends on caedes! I just had that - maybe silly - idea of having a second voting index on every posting made by those writing replies. Official or not, maybe that would 'help' those who still are upset about the c-index voting system that opens door for any 'wise guy' having fun by giving zeros ... As I said before: that may be a silly idea, but that other index could differ a lot from the c-index. Nuff said, now it's up to you putting your two cents in it ;o) Have a nice day Chris http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1771690
A Voting Game!!! madmaven 11/08/06 9:24 PM GMT This probably should go into an ART related thread...but I thought I'd go ahead and place it in offtopics...because this is where the traffic is. In this game....you simply go into Voting Booth, VOTE.....and then choose the most interesting 2 artworks you voted on today...and maybe explain what you found interesting about it....and link the work if you can, or at least give the title of the art and the artists. This gives people OFF our "friend list" some attention, and also encourages us all t http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1193987
Voting Frequency stuffnstuff 08/25/04 3:35 PM GMT I don't know about the other members of the site, but I have a hard time getting enough votes. For instance, I have had one picture up over a week and I still have zero votes on it. This is kind of frustrating, because it needs 5 votes to make the c-index a realistic one. Getting more votes from people would not only decide if the image deserves to get knocked off (because it will if nobody does anything), but also helps me know what people like for future uploads. I know voting has been discuss http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=211988
Big Drop on the c-index 21citrouilles 04/30/08 2:27 AM GMT Usually, I don't care much about the c-index rating, but I've heard lately that some members had a 20 points drop on the c-index after several hours or a day. I know that mathematically, it takes a lot of very low points to make a good rating take a dive like this...So, what's happening? Thank you for the replies. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=2106144
Positive voting guidelines Crusader 09/19/05 8:46 PM GMT Art means different things to different people. It’s only natural that we will have different opinions about different images. With the new voting system you might be exposed to images in a genre that you aren’t familiar with, and it might be difficult for you to decide on a vote to give. We have compiled a brief list of tips on voting to help improve your voting skills. Be objective and be fair. Don’t simply vote a 0 because you are having a bad day, or feel that you just want to get the v http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=495403
Lonely Images? cynlee 12/06/10 2:29 AM GMT I can't seem to find any info on the new item in the left hand column titled Lonely Images. Can someone explain? http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3250229
Wallpaper Borders dmerkel 01/22/06 5:49 AM GMT Get rid of the wallpaper borders. They ruin the art. What famous painting do you know of that has a border? Just downloaded "fire play". Great art. A Possible "10". With the border a "5". http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=613829
Voting and commenting together aljahael 09/16/05 2:05 PM GMT Is it possible to be able to vote and comment together, then upload. Or is there a technical glitch that makes this impossible. If this question has been asked before and answered, sorry. Cheers Al. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=491792
My Grievance for the Day oowenaas 05/08/05 4:31 PM GMT I suppose I deserve one, because I haven't griped on these boards before. It just bugs me when someone votes on one of my images without actually viewing it fullscreen. For example, I uploaded a picture this morning, and shortly after uploading it, it had 2 views and 2 downloads (1 of each being mine), but no votes. I come back a couple hours later to find it has 5 views, but still 2 downloads -- only now 2 members have voted on it. The rating's mediocre, but that's not what I'm complaining http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=378751
Just Curious Too zunazet 07/14/10 3:27 AM GMT This Photo / Manipulation - Dark Waters Has recieved a 40 C-index, Positive comments, and a high ratio of downloads to views. I would appreciate some sincere critique. The C-index implies it is lacking somewhat in some way. I would like to figure out what that may be. I don't worry about the C-index, but it does give a general indication of like / don't like in the voting population. Thank you. Edit: Not complaining, just looking to learn. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3058911
Quality of images Dante11 06/17/06 11:55 PM GMT Overall, i am often impressed by a lot of the imaging here-be it photos, drawings, fractals, etc...BUT today I see an image in Featured Images that is so obviously mediocre and was clearly traced from a photo and it ranks enough to get featured..........this causes me to question assessment of images by whoever selects them for inclusion. Also irks me that I put a good deal into creating an original work...not traced or copied, and it merits not much sometimes. Pretty disappointing. I wonder if http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=880994
New Voting System Dante11 05/02/06 12:03 AM GMT I see the Selective voting on each photo that one chooses to view is phased out...I am VERY pleased about this as I think now with Random voting only, people have a better chance of getting fair values attached to their photos. It will still be possible at times to determine whose photo it is in Random, but the chances are increased it will not occur too often. I would expect there to be a significant change in the number photos that used to get a high C-index value.....this will take some time- http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=789882
Voting for AOTW Samatar 11/08/05 11:18 PM GMT Since there is a little confusion as to when/how often members should vote for artist of the week, from now on I will let people know when I need them to vote to make a decision. It shouldn't be every week, only if there is noone who is clearly ahead, as is the case right now. I don't need everyone to vote again, only people who I don't have two votes from already. I have already counted two votes from the following people: o_O, razorjack, and paul_gerritson. Evryone else, if you can send in a s http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=541650
Constructive Karma noobguy 06/23/04 2:22 PM GMT Gabi had an intersting suggestion I'd like to share with you. She suggested using a karma rewards program for uploading images.. She suggested getting 1 karma for voting on images, and 2 karma for commenting. Then getting extra uploads for having the most karma. You could take this further say.make the normal user(non-cadre) upload limit to 1 per day. Then it would change to 2 per day after a certain number of karma per month/week, then to 3 after an even higher karma cap, maybe even 4. Your upl http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=163343
wallpaper subjects koca 02/13/11 9:44 AM GMT Once I read that you don't recommend people or pets in the photos (wallpapers) because nobody would like to have strange people or pets on their desktops. But I see many pets and people and those photos are highly ranked. So, how do you rank the posts? According to the quality of the photo, the beauty, the artists? And how many people are ranking the posts, do they have different criteria? My best regards. Milka http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3300035
Caedes UK get-together nigelmoore 10/01/07 6:25 PM GMT 15 Caedes members from the UK, US and Belgium met up in April 2008 in Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK. This thread charts the progress of the event right from the initial idea. It continues as a forum for those who were involved or interested.... watch this space for more! http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1756008
Voting facetoface 05/24/07 6:34 AM GMT I'm not sure where to post this so, I guess right here is best. I think that the voting booth should have pictures set up in categories. The reason being is that my own personal preferences somewhat influence the score I'll give a picture. Such as, I don't like computer images so I'm automatically going to rate it lower. I just think there needs to be broad categories like computer images, abstract, photography..etc. Anyway, just thought I'd throw my opinion out there! http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1547036
Voting Encouragement animaniactoo 02/05/07 11:32 PM GMT I'd just like to take a moment to encourage people to vote for a number of reasons. First of all, *caedes… the man behind this site likes statistics, so it's highly unlikely the c-index is going to go away. Second, the voting booth was created to stop people being able to freely manipulate the system, and I think trying to find ways to circumvent the booth is a copout. Do we like all the scores coming out of the booth? No. But, here's my 3rd point, I think this is in large part due to people NOT http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1365869
Ideas for NEW CAEDES SITE brasiu69 04/07/04 2:31 PM GMT In this moment that someone have to work on new site i write here some mine new suggestions. 1.I know the Karma is something that mix a lot of different things, but i like to see in every profile also a position rank only from the votes received and a bonus as for example every 10 photos up to 80/100 a 50 points more. 2.Also for that i'd like to see for every photo a detailed list of who vote and how.Also couse someone vote but don't say how or don't post any comments. 3.The 10 or the 20 top ra http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=111253
Voting... c-index Alifozma 11/21/03 4:06 AM GMT For voting I don't think that it's fair that the people who worked so hard on their work should be graded on a scale of 1 - 10 with 10 ONLY being good... how about fantastic? great? wht I'm saying is that the vote should be fair. It should be like grades where 10 is like a A+ and 6 is a F and so on and so forth... think 'bout it http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=33297
under vote-leave me alone!!! macattack1964 08/19/03 9:39 AM GMT What is up with this voting crap??? Fact is I do vote....but evidentally not enough to satisfy...someone??? I cant get three images in without this damm nag screen.This is a really great site(dont get me wrong)but these kind of tactics suck!..I didnt even know I was supposed to vote,until it came up the first time(sorry-I felt guilty for all the nice images ive taken for my desktop-I thought damm,I better get voting!!) But now its getting to be a pain in the ass-Why cant you rate the images base http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=14809
No Images To Vote On casechaser 04/17/11 1:43 PM GMT I was just in the Voting Booth, voting, when I got the following message:" ErrorThere are no images to vote on."Have I seen and voted on all the possible pictures, is there maintenance being performed and VB is simply not available, is there something else afoot? http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3343911
Why the AC is difficult. jeenie11 02/17/11 4:31 AM GMT I now have the privilege of voting images as an Art Council member. I am very happy to have this privilege. There are several reasons why this honor is also a difficult situation. Let's assume (this did happen) that a certain image is presented to me. It's one that I think is excellent. So I go to the permanent gallery and see 3 that are just like it. It's hard to say yes, include it (because I think it's good) or no, don't include it (because it's redundant). I'd love to hear what you have to s http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3302714
Voting photoguy16 06/07/05 11:20 AM GMT Just a thought......................If you download a picture..........Take a second to vote.....It helps us starving artists to go on doing what we do . Thank You for your kindness. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=401262
Hip hip hooray for the president!!! flames 11/04/04 8:13 PM GMT If you were excited about the new president, or have any comments about the decisions for the next four years. Please feel free to debate. Even if you are not happy with the decisions. I would love to hear the people's thoughts. http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=256267
more voting problems verenabloo 06/17/09 7:42 AM GMT Once again I have voted on 10 images, then I tried to post my photo 22 minutes later, it took SO long on caedes that it said suddenly I had to vote on 9 more images! So tonight it looks like I will not be able to post. That's not so horrible, but it gets tiring to constantly be asked for more votes, when I had just voted, and my waiting wasn't my problem, it was that caedes was very slow at that time. I don't mind the voting, I kind of enjoy that part, but I DO mind having to vote on 19 or 20 im http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=2657099
Did YOU vote today????? madmaven 07/09/08 12:29 AM GMT This thread is a reminder and hopefully will encourage all users, paying members or freeloaders { kidding-Free accounts}.....to PLZ VOTE if you can- as often as you can....because the fine artists and photographers here need critique and encouragement! PLZ vote....and proudly sign this thread to show others you are part of the voting system!:) Sometimes very beautiful work shows a low c-index score and this is in part because many won't take time to just vote. It's not mandatory, but it does mak http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=2225467
Help with Voting thornsthread 11/10/06 7:25 PM GMT I'm kind of new here, so I was wondering how you can find what people voted your image, through the random voting system. I've gotten votes on my images, yet I have no idea how to view those votes. I could really use some help, thanks. Ash http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1197979
C index question CurtieBear 11/18/05 3:17 AM GMT With two different voting systems, which is the C Index figured off of? http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=550203
Caedes growth noobguy 06/14/04 4:51 AM GMT Seems like this site is growing awful fast. I havent been a member but for about a yr and a half. But seems like I remember that there werent but a handful of artists and they always uploaded elite photos. The first picture I ever saw uploaded was my friend auburn's pic. Rescue Station It has a rating of 88 and blows away most of my gallery. I think if he submitted it now it would be a 99 and now there is even more to compare to. Also when you look at the new images galleryin the morning, and http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=156104
A Problem cynlee 12/27/10 3:40 PM GMT This seems like a catch-22 issue to me. If we have to vote on ten images for our own uploads to be accessible to be voted on, but the VB tells you that there are no images to vote on, how can there be more images to vote on if we can't upload any for voting? Maybe remove the restriction for voting ten images?Yes, I know there are fewer images because of the holidays, but I can't even go back to images I did vote on to see them again until more images are uploaded.I was just told that I would hav http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=3264949
Too Many Flower Shots regmar 05/17/07 8:20 PM GMT I'm reaching the super-saturation point with flower photos. I like shooting them, and they tend to be well-received here, but they seem to be constituting 1/3 of the photos here on Caedes (from a random sampling of four pages from the "New Images" section). This may explain the recent downturn in the c-index on flower shots. I find myself becoming hyper-critical of these photos in the voting booth, because I have seen so many really good ones. I have stopped uploading them, because the compe http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=1536985
random voting prerequisite to upload. mum42 11/17/05 11:41 AM GMT I uploaded an image yesterday evening, after voting on 10 images in the voting booth. This morning I checked to see when I could upload again, and was told "6:34pm" and that I would need to vote on another 10. All good so far. Tonight, however, I have gone to upload, and the message I recieved is: "In the last 24 hours, you've uploaded 1 images and voted (randomly) on 0 images. You need to vote on 10 images for each image that you upload. We calculate that you need 20 more votes in order to uplo http://www.caedes.net/Zephir.cgi?lib=Board::Topic&id=549347